Mike Trout Investment Potential: 2024+

[awz50]

Originally Posted by Hollywood42

Some people seem to find it so hard to appreciate some of the greats of all time when they're right in front of their face, and that's sad

It's easier to hate for some then enjoy sadly

[AnthonyCorona]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

nobody hates Trout more than BO members

Worms and insects do


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[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by Hollywood42

Some people seem to find it so hard to appreciate some of the greats of all time when they're right in front of their face, and that's sad

While true, there has been nothing to appreciate about Trout since 2019 outside of an abbreviated 2022 season.

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by 49ersSF

The one thing that created the mythical Trout is WAR. Every conversation about Trout over the years begins and ends with WAR. It is nearly his entire identity with exception to his MVPs which were obtained because of his WAR. Other than that, he has no other major accomplishments.

Now that he has finally been moved out of centerfield he will no longer receive the ridiculous WAR boost he has been accustomed to. In addition, he is 33 coming off four consecutive injury plagued seasons. Superstars such as Griffey, F. Thomas, Pujols, Cabrera, and many others saw a massive drop off in their statistics post age 32 which Trout should see as well.

With that all said, it would be very unwise to invest in Trout as he has not yet bottomed out. Any investment now is most likely going to lose especially if you are buying during the pre-season hype.

This is pretty unfair. He led the league in OPS four times (OPS+ six times).

Trout's rankings among MLB hitters all-time through age-32 season (minimum 3,000 PA; 1,761 hitters):

OPS: 15
SLG: 16
OBP: 42
HR: 21
Runs: 50

[fabiani12333]

Trout's WAR really didn't benefit from him playing center field. The positional adjustment for playing CF is +2.5 runs over 1,350 innings played -- that's a pittance.

He wasn't a good defender in CF, so he didn't really accumulate any value playing the position -- 2.7 bWAR and about 1.3 fWAR. That compares to an oWAR of 86.4.

If he had played exclusively in LF his whole career and was average defensively, he would have lost only about 6 bWAR (11,530 innings played in CF / 1,350 innings = 8.54 x -7 runs) = -59.7 runs / 10 runs) = -6 WAR)

He would still have 80 bWAR and been statistically deserving of multiple MVPs.

[Rob355]

Originally Posted by Rbradleigh

Resubmitted as a “Review” and not surprised, no upgrade to a 10. I’m done putting money into this card, regardless that I find it a gem.

how much did the review cost? have you done it before with any luck? I'm thinking about doing it to a few cards.

a couple I want to recase anyway, I'm sure you can do both at once?

[towerymt]

Originally Posted by Rob355

how much did the review cost? have you done it before with any luck? I'm thinking about doing it to a few cards.

a couple I want to recase anyway, I'm sure you can do both at once?

It costs the grading fee, so whatever service level you pick.

The chance of a bump is probably very, very low, so I think it should be done only if there's a big increase in value if the grade goes up.

Unfortunately they don't re-holder the card during a Review, unless the grade goes up. I've sent one that did not get bumped, and it was returned in the original (very old) PSA holder. If PSA cracked it out regardless, which I think they should since they are charging the grading fee, then I would try it more often. At least then we would get some value/service for the fee paid, even if the grade stays the same.

A successful 'Review' resulting in a grade bump will retain the same cert#. I've had one success:

[finfangfan]

Total tangent to thread topic but if you want a newer holder isn’t there a way to submit and pay a reholder fee?

[hammertime]

Originally Posted by finfangfan

Total tangent to thread topic but if you want a newer holder isn’t there a way to submit and pay a reholder fee?

Yes....

[Rbradleigh]

Originally Posted by Rob355

how much did the review cost? have you done it before with any luck? I'm thinking about doing it to a few cards.

a couple I want to recase anyway, I'm sure you can do both at once?

I’m pretty sure I used their “Value plus special” for $35 + $40 to ship Fedex both ways. The shipping fees suck on a single item order. I think previously when I looked into a review the grading fee was $75 so perhaps it’s come down since that point.
Fyi, most advice I read is to crack & resubmit which I obviously didn’t do, but I was scared of damaging the card. It likely wouldn’t have mattered. Good luck to you & to Trout, I’m optimistic he has a helluva bounce back and healthy year.