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Old 11-03-2022, 05:22 AM   #6601
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People are still buying this product?

Hobby should be $80 and Blasters $10 at this point
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Old 11-03-2022, 06:29 AM   #6602
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People are still buying this product?

Hobby should be $80 and Blasters $10 at this point
I can't justify spending what they are asking now. I plan on waiting until they go on clearance/sale like a few other products have done recently. I think next year if people are spending the same way as they are now, prices/production will drop giving more value to products.
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Old 11-03-2022, 08:05 AM   #6603
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Are we at $100 for hobby without silver packs?
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Old 11-03-2022, 08:57 AM   #6604
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Just scrolled through 45 autos from this. Chas McCormick has a helluva RC image going for him, but an utterly forgettable signature.

I hope Janson Junk has a long career as a middle reliever appearing in Topps products once every 3 years.

The inscrutable Trey Amburgey offers up an inscrutable inscription on his auto.

There are some interesting ‘vet’ cards offering mid/early career on-card auto. (I know, not RC, worthless).

Rodolfo Castro has a sig befitting all those o’s rolling around his name.

If Trevor Rogers can throw pitches that move like his crazed “signature” he will be unhittable - why do credit card companies even bother with sig confirm any more?

Best card I saw - Patrick Wisdom Rookie Cup. Yes, I think I will enjoy shopping the low low end singles from this, now that it’s 2 pinks/$35 and I quit ripping for some of those, thus missing out on my back-up Catcher RC auto fix that I usually pull from this.
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Old 11-03-2022, 10:11 AM   #6605
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Just scrolled through 45 autos from this. Chas McCormick has a helluva RC image going for him, but an utterly forgettable signature.

I hope Janson Junk has a long career as a middle reliever appearing in Topps products once every 3 years.

The inscrutable Trey Amburgey offers up an inscrutable inscription on his auto.

There are some interesting ‘vet’ cards offering mid/early career on-card auto. (I know, not RC, worthless).

Rodolfo Castro has a sig befitting all those o’s rolling around his name.

If Trevor Rogers can throw pitches that move like his crazed “signature” he will be unhittable - why do credit card companies even bother with sig confirm any more?

Best card I saw - Patrick Wisdom Rookie Cup. Yes, I think I will enjoy shopping the low low end singles from this, now that it’s 2 pinks/$35 and I quit ripping for some of those, thus missing out on my back-up Catcher RC auto fix that I usually pull from this.
It’s not as good as it used to be, but his signature is still better than a lot of others out there.

Also, credit card companies aren’t looking at signatures on receipts. I don’t think they really have for decades now. No one sees it. I just sign those with my first name only.
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Old 11-04-2022, 08:53 AM   #6606
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That could be true, I just believe 95% chance there will be a season and even if the economy tanks I see sportscards will be strong.. To many its a great escape, others a business and others gambling.. they arent a necessity, but def something people have a hard time staying away from, every year there are more people involved.

$90-$100 Topps Chrome boxes are forever gone. thats like saying Wander Base rookies will be $3-$5 max, in my opinion .0001% chance

I believe the lowest these can get to would be $225 and if Witt/Jrod get called up it can be max $750/box by release

My prediction is at least $350
Hobby boxes down to $149 on BO for the Black Friday sale. It's only- what- six weeks after release? Always fun to look back and see how predictions panned out.
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Old 11-04-2022, 06:18 PM   #6607
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I see the reference that Julio base autos may not exist. Are any other big names confirmed or rumored to be short printed?

Went ahead and grabbed a Wander base auto redemption because it appeared SPd to me, and I figured that was a better purchase than a sealed jumbo box.
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Old 11-04-2022, 11:12 PM   #6608
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Hobby boxes down to $149 on BO for the Black Friday sale. It's only- what- six weeks after release? Always fun to look back and see how predictions panned out.
Especially when it's the biggest pump thread in the history of the BO message boards!
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Old 11-05-2022, 08:01 AM   #6609
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At some point with these continuing price drops, a Hobby / Jumbo Box with a Silver Pack will start to become attractive as a good buy. Doesn’t sound like we’re there yet, but maybe close?
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Old 11-05-2022, 08:44 AM   #6610
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At some point with these continuing price drops, a Hobby / Jumbo Box with a Silver Pack will start to become attractive as a good buy. Doesn’t sound like we’re there yet, but maybe close?
I’d buy Chrome hobby with a silver pack for $25. Across the entire product line, it looks like there are only a couple thousand autos total of Wander, JRod, and Witt. The EV on this can’t be more than $30-40/box, and that’s if the condition of the cards you pull is acceptable.
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Old 11-05-2022, 09:15 AM   #6611
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At some point with these continuing price drops, a Hobby / Jumbo Box with a Silver Pack will start to become attractive as a good buy. Doesn’t sound like we’re there yet, but maybe close?
There is nothing to like. There really isn't.

Huge print run.
Bad QC.
Most the singles you couldn't give away.
Some of the key cards are redemptions.


It's going to go down as an all time bad product.

I'm not kidding I wouldn't want it at 50 a box with silver pack.
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Old 11-05-2022, 09:20 AM   #6612
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There is nothing to like. There really isn't.

Huge print run.
Bad QC.
Most the singles you couldn't give away.
Some of the key cards are redemptions.


It's going to go down as an all time bad product.

I'm not kidding I wouldn't want it at 50 a box with silver pack.
There was a moment this past Summer when I was happy to get pre-sale Hobby Boxes from BO at $299 each. That moment is now looooooong gone. I watched this Product transform from Topps Chrome to Topps Crap, and it was ugly. Between this Train wreck and the Tatis Train wreck, I’ve taken a few sucker punch hits this year

( not complaining/ I’m sitting at the Grown-Ups Table when I buy - just saying…. )
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Old 11-05-2022, 09:33 AM   #6613
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There is nothing to like. There really isn't.

Huge print run.
Bad QC.
Most the singles you couldn't give away.
Some of the key cards are redemptions.


It's going to go down as an all time bad product.

I'm not kidding I wouldn't want it at 50 a box with silver pack.
Likely to be the same with all Fanatics releases? They have to recoup that huge overspend to get the license. All downward from here.
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Old 11-05-2022, 09:37 AM   #6614
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This is what most flagship releases will look like for a while. S1 S2 Update TC TCU. Until there’s a massive drop in prices…these releases will continue to destroy those buying, those ripping and those holding them.


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Old 11-05-2022, 09:42 AM   #6615
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This is what most flagship releases will look like for a while. S1 S2 Update TC TCU. Until there’s a massive drop in prices…these releases will continue to destroy those buying, those ripping and those holding them.


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Old 11-05-2022, 09:36 PM   #6616
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PSA 8 Wander Red auto just sold for $3060 at Goldin.
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Old 11-05-2022, 10:20 PM   #6617
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PSA 8 Wander Red auto just sold for $3060 at Goldin.
Rather low
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Old 11-05-2022, 10:26 PM   #6618
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PSA 8 Wander Red auto just sold for $3060 at Goldin.
Seems terribly low. What's the upside to buying this at 1800 a case when a wander red auto only brings that?
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Old 11-05-2022, 10:27 PM   #6619
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PSA 8 Wander Red auto just sold for $3060 at Goldin.
imagine buying a jumbo case and pulling the 4th or 5th best possible card and still losing your butt.
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Old 11-05-2022, 10:30 PM   #6620
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PSA 8 Wander Red auto just sold for $3060 at Goldin.
wow, strong sale!
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Old 11-06-2022, 12:39 PM   #6621
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This product will drop down to the next price level as soon as breakers stop breaking it due to lack of participation.

With baseball season over and the next products coming out, it should happen very soon.

As always, patience in this market always pays off.
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Old 11-06-2022, 01:18 PM   #6622
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This product will drop down to the next price level as soon as breakers stop breaking it due to lack of participation.

With baseball season over and the next products coming out, it should happen very soon.

As always, patience in this market always pays off.
Breakers on whatnot are adding chrome to any break of a desirable product because there is no other way to get rid of it. Every break is complete trash
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Old 11-07-2022, 07:19 AM   #6623
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Breakers on whatnot are adding chrome to any break of a desirable product because there is no other way to get rid of it. Every break is complete trash
I feel that has been the norm even before this. Most breaks I have seen or been apart of (for any breaker that gets allocation, not buying and reselling spots) always would add a junk box to it. It is easy for them to get rid of it and make money off of it. Also could add "value" to bad teams if it is different years too.
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Old 11-07-2022, 01:16 PM   #6624
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LCS has them at $35/pack right now...
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Old 11-07-2022, 03:22 PM   #6625
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This product will drop down to the next price level as soon as breakers stop breaking it due to lack of participation.

With baseball season over and the next products coming out, it should happen very soon.

As always, patience in this market always pays off.
How about the upcoming 2022 Bowman Chrome release? That worth the $325 per hobby box price tag? Is this a product to wait on?
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