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Old 12-07-2020, 03:13 AM   #66326
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"The evidence is rock solid."

Love how people say this junk yet won't go in court and swear under oath to it since there are actual consequences to doing that.

What's the Trump team record in court? 1-46?
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Old 12-07-2020, 03:24 AM   #66327
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"The evidence is rock solid."

Love how people say this junk yet won't go in court and swear under oath to it since there are actual consequences to doing that.

What's the Trump team record in court? 1-46?
HTF do you know they won't appear in court, no one has that answer. So stop with that nonsense.
Did you even watch the vid?
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HTF do you know they won't appear in court, no one has that answer. So stop with that nonsense.
Did you even watch the vid?
Made it about 20 minutes in. How much longer do I need to watch?

And how do I know they won't appear in court? The election was a month ago. They said they had evidence this was going on for months prior. I believe he said August or something along those lines.

Why is it that Trump's own departments have declared the election free of any election changing fraud? Why have Trump appointed judges dismissed case after case after case? Why are only a few states having issues like this when other states like Florida or Ohio are free and clear of any major fraud? In a world where people now have 4K recording devices at the ready, do all we see are grainy videos of photos that aren't irrefutable? How did hundreds, if not thousands, of people pull this off without a single person being caught red handed?

I keep hearing "DOMINION!!! DOMINION!!!" yet Dominion is used in 28 states. Trump had the opportunity to shore up election security measures. I believe there were requests for election security measures in several COVID bills. They were mostly ignored. Now that he lost, it's a big deal.

If mail-in/absentee voting is so riddled with fraud, why is Trump now pushing Georgia residents to use those systems? Oh, maybe it's because he realized that pushing a false agenda that mail-in/absentee voting is fraudulent for months prior to the election when IT'S NOT, it might have cost him the general election to Biden. Trump is a fool. Most of those on his team are fools.
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The judges are either scared, obummer judges, or compromised. They are doing the team a favor, goes to SCOTUS faster.
There might not even be a runoff in GA. If there is both will get 60% or more.
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The judges are either scared, obummer judges, or compromised. They are doing the team a favor, goes to SCOTUS faster.
There might not even be a runoff in GA. If there is both will get 60% or more.
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Rules of law are only reviewed by SCOTUS if lower courts cannot agree on what they are or how they are applied.

I'm not sure why the concept is so hard for you to grasp. Maybe google it. 8th graders learn this stuff in middle school.

But hey, think what you like. It's a (mostly) free country.

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Wrong again. You must have failed middle school.

The lower courts don’t leave questions of law open for SCOTUS help. They made their decision.

It is the complainant that pleads to SCOTUS the court of appeal erred.

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The judges are either scared, obummer judges, or compromised. They are doing the team a favor, goes to SCOTUS faster.
There might not even be a runoff in GA. If there is both will get 60% or more.
The delusion is strong with this one
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So many people clinging to the tiniest shred of imagined hope...at first it was hilarious. Now it's just sad.

It's over. Let it go. Whining, crying, and making up crap is not going to change anything. Judges are not going to change anything. SCOTUS is not going to change anything. Nothing is going to change the outcome of this election.

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Anybody make any wagers on the success/failure of the Trump legal team?

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Wrong again. You must have failed middle school.

The lower courts don’t leave questions of law open for SCOTUS help. They made their decision.

It is the complainant that pleads to SCOTUS the court of appeal erred.
Lol you go ahead and keep thinking you understand this. I'm okay with that.

It's over.

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Wrong again. You must have failed middle school.

The lower courts don’t leave questions of law open for SCOTUS help. They made their decision.

It is the complainant that pleads to SCOTUS the court of appeal erred.
She failed a lot more. She has no clue of her gender. She is really a he.
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The delusion is strong with this one
People from Detroit and California saying people are delusional is like the Pot calling the Kettle Black.
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Old 12-07-2020, 07:24 AM   #66338
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I didn't support either candidate but If you aren't even somewhat concerned of the clusterpoop that this election was there is something wromg with you.
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Anybody make any wagers on the success/failure of the Trump legal team?
No but I will bet anything that you are a male not female.
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No but I will bet anything that you are a male not female.
Why does it matter and why do you keep bringing it up? Looking for a date for New Year’s Eve or something?
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I didn't support either candidate but If you aren't even somewhat concerned of the clusterpoop that this election was there is something wromg with you.
This election wasn’t a cluster. It was carried out like normal, just a lot of people voted by mail or early. Trump has been calling it into question for months. He is the reason it feel chaotic. People had been saying for months that we wouldn’t know the results on election night yet some people choose not to listen.
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Why does it matter and why do you keep bringing it up? Looking for a date for New Year’s Eve or something?
I know Democrats think it's ok to lie. Why do you keep saying the same thing over and over?
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This election wasn’t a cluster. It was carried out like normal, just a lot of people voted by mail or early. Trump has been calling it into question for months. He is the reason it feel chaotic. People had been saying for months that we wouldn’t know the results on election night yet some people choose not to listen.
Exactly how wasn't it a cluster? Fraud probably not, cluster yes. There most certainly should have been a better plan for mail in ballots, etc. there shouldn't be multiple times of votes showing up that weren't counted. For all the blaming of Trump for people not trusting the system this year, election officials did them selves no favors.
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Pretty disappointed in this, what's the end game?

This will probably explain what will happen the week before in Tampa for the Super Bowl.
If they are reducing the capacity, wouldn't it still be a sellout? If you only offer 10 seats, and they sell 10 seats, wouldn't that still be a sellout? It would keep the sellout streak intact.
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Exactly how wasn't it a cluster? Fraud probably not, cluster yes. There most certainly should have been a better plan for mail in ballots, etc. there shouldn't be multiple times of votes showing up that weren't counted. For all the blaming of Trump for people not trusting the system this year, election officials did them selves no favors.
They tried to obtain more funding to deal with this and it was basically turned down every time. Again, additional funding for the USPS, state election boards, and election security measures were included in most every covid bill that failed. I’m not assigning blame to one party or the other, both had their roles to play. Either way, the main driver for people thinking this election was a cluster is the sitting president who wants to sow seeds of doubt about it since he lost. Had he won, he wouldn’t be saying most of this nonsense.
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I know Democrats think it's ok to lie. Why do you keep saying the same thing over and over?
Defect much? You love to ask questions but never answer any yourself.
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No but I will bet anything that you are a male not female.
Why are you fixated on this? What gender are you?
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Lol you go ahead and keep thinking you understand this. I'm okay with that.

It's over.

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lolololol I fully understand it. Maybe we got our messages crossed, so let me try this one last time.

When I mentioned the 40% of disillusioned Americans, I was simply stating that with so many people concerned with fraud, then maybe it is best that SCOTUS hears the appeal. I am not saying SCOTUS intervenes because of 40%, just that it may help with transparency. Who knows, they may refuse to hear the appeal.

Regarding the Pennsylvania case, it never went to trial. It was dismissed with prejudice because the court felt it was without merit.

It then went to the court of appeal. They upheld the lower court decision.

It is now at SCOTUS. They will decide if the dismissal is legally sound. If they do, it is over. If they feel the decision is wrong, the case then goes back to the first court for an actual hearing.

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My personal COVID update:

My elementary aged daughter and middle school son tested positive. My wife and I tested negative but the doctor believes we had a false negative. My FIL, who lives with us, is in rehab and still positive. We will all be in quarantine for a while.

Keep well.
Take care of yourself and your family. I miss disagreeing with you in this thread. Be well.
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They tried to obtain more funding to deal with this and it was basically turned down every time. Again, additional funding for the USPS, state election boards, and election security measures were included in most every covid bill that failed. I’m not assigning blame to one party or the other, both had their roles to play. Either way, the main driver for people thinking this election was a cluster is the sitting president who wants to sow seeds of doubt about it since he lost. Had he won, he wouldn’t be saying most of this nonsense.
I will have to still disagree with you for me personally I'm going by experiences by those that I know personally at the polls and that work for Board of Elections. This election should have been handled a lot better, regardless of President Trump.
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