Brock Purdy the newest QB hype

[49erRCCollector]

Originally Posted by kluke84

Are you saying Hurts Tua TL and Love are not top 15 QBs?
Because they are.

Being a top 15 QB and being worth a contract that effectively depletes the other areas of your roster, so much so that it takes you out of real SB contention, is the question.

I include Purdy in this question as well because we haven't had to see him carry a roster with holes... yet. He may very well struggle. Or he might play well but not get back to a bowl a la Brees, Wilson, etc.

Reid couldn't win a SB with a stacked Eagles team + a prime era ("top 15") McNabb.

Only guy that seems to be immune is the Mahomes + the Kelce/Reid combo.

It's a real fine line between winning and losing.

[towerymt]

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[SleeperCards]

Originally Posted by towerymt

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$18,500, 3+ days remaining.

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How long has Fanatics been running auctions? Literally the first I've seen.

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by SleeperCards

How long has Fanatics been running auctions? Literally the first I've seen.

Never seen one either. Doubt I'll bid on anything there though - too many other sites.

[towerymt]

Originally Posted by SleeperCards

How long has Fanatics been running auctions? Literally the first I've seen.

It's the PWCC platform, acquired by Fanatics. Recently changed naming, look & feel, etc.

[SleeperCards]

Originally Posted by towerymt

It's the PWCC platform, acquired by Fanatics. Recently changed naming, look & feel, etc.

I'd forgotten about that, did they get rid of the various scumbags at PWCC or they still part of it?

[MyckKabongo]

Vegas and the fantasy consensus have him regressing a bit this year. Potentially good opportunity. Despite all the contract drama, seems likely to me that the SF O will dominate much the same as last year. Purdy is also a very young QB that should still be improving at this point, adding to the bull case IMHO.

[49erRCCollector]

Originally Posted by MyckKabongo

Vegas and the fantasy consensus have him regressing a bit this year. Potentially good opportunity. Despite all the contract drama, seems likely to me that the SF O will dominate much the same as last year. Purdy is also a very young QB that should still be improving at this point, adding to the bull case IMHO.

I could see that. But Aiyuk and Trent W. are now under contract and ready to go.

D might be better?

Well-rounded squad that he should take advantage of.

[Grid]

Honest question. With Debo and Williams holding out for more money, even though they were under contract. And both getting paid. How does Purdy go to work every day, for $1MIL a season?

Knowing he is the engine that drives the San Fran train. How does he not flex that, to jump into the $50MIL a year deal he is worth?

He played 2022 for the $1MIL, as he should have. Proved his value in 2023, and shut his mouth and took the $1MIL again. How does he walk into 2024, for the same $1MIL and be OK with that? With all the money SF just paid out to everyone else. The team would be dead in its tracks with Purdy. Its the one guy they cant go into the season without. He'd have em by the sack if he held out.

[Dacubs2]

Originally Posted by Grid

Honest question. With Debo and Williams holding out for more money, even though they were under contract. And both getting paid. How does Purdy go to work every day, for $1MIL a season?

Knowing he is the engine that drives the San Fran train. How does he not flex that, to jump into the $50MIL a year deal he is worth?

He played 2022 for the $1MIL, as he should have. Proved his value in 2023, and shut his mouth and took the $1MIL again. How does he walk into 2024, for the same $1MIL and be OK with that? With all the money SF just paid out to everyone else. The team would be dead in its tracks with Purdy. Its the one guy they cant go into the season without. He'd have em by the sack if he held out.

Honestly, I would be trying to go for the money, but Purdy seems like the type of guy that wants to do things the "right" way...honor the contract he signed, but expect to also get paid market value when the time comes

[erock28]

Originally Posted by Grid

Honest question. With Debo and Williams holding out for more money, even though they were under contract. And both getting paid. How does Purdy go to work every day, for $1MIL a season?

Knowing he is the engine that drives the San Fran train. How does he not flex that, to jump into the $50MIL a year deal he is worth?

He played 2022 for the $1MIL, as he should have. Proved his value in 2023, and shut his mouth and took the $1MIL again. How does he walk into 2024, for the same $1MIL and be OK with that? With all the money SF just paid out to everyone else. The team would be dead in its tracks with Purdy. Its the one guy they cant go into the season without. He'd have em by the sack if he held out.

Good question - it'd have to be awfully hard to stomach seeing his LT/RB/2x WR/TE all making crazy money. It's the nature of the NFL I guess. Maybe there is some verbiage in rookie contracts making it virtually impossible to not honor the signed agreement? Mahomes played out his rookie deal...are there examples of players getting extended (and paid) before their rookie cantract expiration?

[49erRCCollector]

Originally Posted by Grid

Honest question. With Debo and Williams holding out for more money, even though they were under contract. And both getting paid. How does Purdy go to work every day, for $1MIL a season?

Knowing he is the engine that drives the San Fran train. How does he not flex that, to jump into the $50MIL a year deal he is worth?

He played 2022 for the $1MIL, as he should have. Proved his value in 2023, and shut his mouth and took the $1MIL again. How does he walk into 2024, for the same $1MIL and be OK with that? With all the money SF just paid out to everyone else. The team would be dead in its tracks with Purdy. Its the one guy they cant go into the season without. He'd have em by the sack if he held out.

Well.. a few things. He played in 5 reg season games in 2022. Looked great, but they looked great before he started as well.

2023 - you bet - great year. CMC was the OPOY, though.

Also - yes, he could be the QB that stamps his feet to "get his" but Aiyuk was in final a "leverage" year of his contract, Purdy is not and Williams is the best overall player on the team.

The money is not there at the moment, nor the leverage, but it will be. I think he trusts that. Also - what team is paying Purdy more than SF likely will?

[Gigantor]

Originally Posted by Grid

Honest question. With Debo and Williams holding out for more money, even though they were under contract. And both getting paid. How does Purdy go to work every day, for $1MIL a season?

Knowing he is the engine that drives the San Fran train. How does he not flex that, to jump into the $50MIL a year deal he is worth?

He played 2022 for the $1MIL, as he should have. Proved his value in 2023, and shut his mouth and took the $1MIL again. How does he walk into 2024, for the same $1MIL and be OK with that? With all the money SF just paid out to everyone else. The team would be dead in its tracks with Purdy. Its the one guy they cant go into the season without. He'd have em by the sack if he held out.

Everyone's hands are tied with Purdy's contract. The CBA doesn't allow for a rookie deal to be renegotiated until 3 years have passed. So, SF can't offer a new deal and Purdy can't hold out as his 3rd year won't accrue.

They could extend him after the regular season is over, prior to the playoffs if they want. For the time being, it sounds like Purdy is making some extra scratch with endorsement deals and such.

As far as the rest of the roster, I can't see them keeping Deebo's big contract while paying Purdy $60m+ per year.

[packman80]

Originally Posted by Gigantor

Everyone's hands are tied with Purdy's contract. The CBA doesn't allow for a rookie deal to be renegotiated until 3 years have passed. So, SF can't offer a new deal and Purdy can't hold out as his 3rd year won't accrue.

They could extend him after the regular season is over, prior to the playoffs if they want. For the time being, it sounds like Purdy is making some extra scratch with endorsement deals and such.

As far as the rest of the roster, I can't see them keeping Deebo's big contract while paying Purdy $60m+ per year.

Purdy after this season will do as all the other 49ers players did hold out until the 49ers fold and pay him a 300 million deal

[Grid]

Originally Posted by Gigantor

Everyone's hands are tied with Purdy's contract. The CBA doesn't allow for a rookie deal to be renegotiated until 3 years have passed. So, SF can't offer a new deal and Purdy can't hold out as his 3rd year won't accrue.

They could extend him after the regular season is over, prior to the playoffs if they want. For the time being, it sounds like Purdy is making some extra scratch with endorsement deals and such.

As far as the rest of the roster, I can't see them keeping Deebo's big contract while paying Purdy $60m+ per year.

Ah, good to know!

[njsportscardguy]

With respect to everyone's input & speculation as to Purdy,...."not getting his" (contractually speaking), rest assured; barring any major injury or regression, next year, Purdy will be...with nary a shred of doubt, the SIXTY-MILLION DOLLAR A YEAR, MAN!!

[Grid]

Originally Posted by njsportscardguy

With respect to everyone's input & speculation as to Purdy,...."not getting his" (contractually speaking), rest assured; barring any major injury or regression, next year, Purdy will be...with nary a shred of doubt, the SIXTY-MILLION DOLLAR A YEAR, MAN!!

Obviously teams can and do get creative with the Cap. And while the cap should go up a little for 2025. As it stands now, the team is -$44,728,358.

They have Cap Liabilities: $304,728,358. And that is with Purdy counting at $1.1MIL.

They give Purdy $60MIL, and they will be $105MIL over the cap.

The reason they can pay all these big contracts now, is because they are paying their starting QB nothing. When they do have to pay him, its a fire sale on everyone else.

[49erRCCollector]

Originally Posted by Grid

Obviously teams can and do get creative with the Cap. And while the cap should go up a little for 2025. As it stands now, the team is -$44,728,358.

They have Cap Liabilities: $304,728,358. And that is with Purdy counting at $1.1MIL.

They give Purdy $60MIL, and they will be $105MIL over the cap.

The reason they can pay all these big contracts now, is because they are paying their starting QB nothing. When they do have to pay him, its a fire sale on everyone else.

But with cap space rolling over, the restructures, and the cap going up, they likely won’t be over.

They likely won’t extend Hufanga, etc. but I believe they think they have the replacements already in the building on rookie contracts. And aside of the aging players are not going to be in line for extensions after that.

[Asian62150]

Regardless, this is probably the 49ers last chance to win with the current core.

Team is not just getting more expensive, but also getting to be on the older side.

[49erRCCollector]

Originally Posted by Asian62150

Regardless, this is probably the 49ers last chance to win with the current core.

Team is not just getting more expensive, but also getting to be on the older side.

Age is a bigger threat than the cap. Agreed.

[Derekbauer]

Originally Posted by Grid

Obviously teams can and do get creative with the Cap. And while the cap should go up a little for 2025. As it stands now, the team is -$44,728,358.

They have Cap Liabilities: $304,728,358. And that is with Purdy counting at $1.1MIL.

They give Purdy $60MIL, and they will be $105MIL over the cap.

The reason they can pay all these big contracts now, is because they are paying their starting QB nothing. When they do have to pay him, its a fire sale on everyone else.

Restructures will take care of this and they likely cut some of the lower end guys with $3-$6 million contracts who will be unrestricted (I don’t know the roster but most teams have a few players who fit that criteria). That should free up $15-$20 million right away.

I would imagine Bosa and Warner are prime candidates for extension/restructiure. Possibly Deebo and Cmac to lower their cap hits next year as well.

And if they do decide to sign Purdy to a max deal it will most likely be backloaded for cap reasons.


They will be able to run it back with this roster they just won’t have any money to spend on high prized FAs.

[Floridacardguy]

Purdy gets a 3rd NFC championship appearance in a row??? I say yes. Even a deep playoff run proves he's entirely deserving of a big pay day. He will get it.

[Siberian13]

Is anyone worried about Purdy falling off this year?

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

Is anyone worried about Purdy falling off this year?

He will.

Write it down in a book.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

He will.

Write it down in a book.

Playing for a big contract though so the motivation is there.