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Old 12-03-2024, 04:37 PM   #6826
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Holding out is much harder now since the 2020 CBA - he will get fined more than he makes. Rookie contract players who hold out can be fined $40,000 per day.) This can be forgiven by the team because he is under a rookie contract.

I believe he also loses one weeks pay for each pre-season game he misses.
And he runs the very real risk of losing an accrued season. This is the big hammer.

"A player under contract must report to his team’s training camp on his mandatory reporting date in order to earn an accrued season."

"If a player holds out his services for a “material period of time,” he is also at risk of not accruing a season."
If Scottish Punk is correct, I don't think that applies. A couple posts up, he posted: "5th year option only applies to first round draft picks. 49ers would have to franchise him after next year to keep him without an extension."

The 49ers would be heartless to fine the kid after all he's done. Plus, you can't get blood from a stone. With Purdy earning approximately $750,000 per year, for the last four years, after California taxes, he's probably takes home around $400k, which in San Francisco with the cost of living probably gets him a one bedroom condo and an off-the-lot BMW.
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Old 12-03-2024, 04:46 PM   #6827
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If Scottish Punk is correct, I don't think that applies. A couple posts up, he posted: "5th year option only applies to first round draft picks. 49ers would have to franchise him after next year to keep him without an extension."

The 49ers would be heartless to fine the kid after all he's done. Plus, you can't get blood from a stone. With Purdy earning approximately $750,000 per year, for the last four years, after California taxes, he's probably takes home around $400k, which in San Francisco with the cost of living probably gets him a one bedroom condo and an off-the-lot BMW.
It's a business, though. Love Purdy... but when your agent is asking for $60 mil a year, it's business.

Leverage is a thing.
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Old 12-03-2024, 04:56 PM   #6828
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Purdy is under contract for next year (2025). It's his fourth year. He is currently in Year 3.

The Niners can force him for the most part to play next year (2025) under his current contract. Then he would be a free agent, but they could franchise him in 2026.
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Old 12-03-2024, 04:57 PM   #6829
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If Scottish Punk is correct, I don't think that applies. A couple posts up, he posted: "5th year option only applies to first round draft picks. 49ers would have to franchise him after next year to keep him without an extension."

The 49ers would be heartless to fine the kid after all he's done. Plus, you can't get blood from a stone. With Purdy earning approximately $750,000 per year, for the last four years, after California taxes, he's probably takes home around $400k, which in San Francisco with the cost of living probably gets him a one bedroom condo and an off-the-lot BMW.
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It's a business, though. Love Purdy... but when your agent is asking for $60 mil a year, it's business.

Leverage is a thing.
Yes, it’s not show-friends, it’s show business.

If Purdy holds out, let him walk. Niners will pick up another QB before negotiations for leverage.

Purdy is at a disadvantage here and I also believe he will take whatever he can get.
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Old 12-03-2024, 05:06 PM   #6830
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I would be really surprised if they can't come to a deal and I think it will be at least Jordan Love sized (4/220).

(Love's cap hit in 2028 is 74 million - oh boy - but the team has an out in 2027 for 50 in dead cap)
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Old 12-03-2024, 05:15 PM   #6831
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The fan in me does have to say that if the niners win out and make the playoffs at 10-7, then his contract will be bigger :-)

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Old 12-03-2024, 05:24 PM   #6832
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Purdy strikes me as someone that would be more team friendly, despite never having a big deal. Doubt he is looking to reset the market even though his accolades would theoretically allow him too. He was the last pick in the draft, he probably never dreamed of a $50M+ contract a year.
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Old 12-03-2024, 05:35 PM   #6833
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I read somewhere Dak makes in one quarter the same as Purdy does all season. I haven’t done the math but it doesn’t surprise me.
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Old 12-03-2024, 05:37 PM   #6834
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The chiefs took a (modest) gamble signing Mahomes to 10 years, but this is outright genius now, as his $$ numbers are looking downright pedestrian.
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Old 12-03-2024, 05:45 PM   #6835
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2026 QB franchise tag would be around $40 million. Still a bargin compared to similar QB contracts. If 49ers choose to tag as non-exclusive, Purdy can test the market. 49ers can than choose to match or get two firsts? as compensation.
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Old 12-03-2024, 06:03 PM   #6836
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The tag will go up, but calculating it seems some black art. I believe it's based on cap hits though, and there are some huge cap hits coming in 2025 which will raise the tag for 2026:

Dak: 89 million
Watson: 72 million (oy vey browns)
Mahomes: 66 million (the bill comes due eventually)
Stafford: 53 million

The non-exclusive I think is the top 5 over 5 years, so that will smooth it out a bit.
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Old 12-03-2024, 06:10 PM   #6837
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I read somewhere Dak makes in one quarter the same as Purdy does all season. I haven’t done the math but it doesn’t surprise me.
In cash this year Dak got 80 million in signing bonus up front (and 1.2 in salary) - which for 68 quarters works out to about 1.2 million per quarter.


Purdy is getting 985K in cash this year.
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The fan in me does have to say that if the niners win out and make the playoffs at 10-7, then his contract will be bigger :-)

(Bears, Rams, @Dolphins, Lions, @Cards)
Even if they "get right" or "as right as they can" I don't think they are beating the Lions. The others, it's at least a possibility.
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Old 12-03-2024, 07:13 PM   #6839
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Yes, it’s not show-friends, it’s show business.

If Purdy holds out, let him walk. Niners will pick up another QB before negotiations for leverage.

Purdy is at a disadvantage here and I also believe he will take whatever he can get.
I get that, but nothing says they can't negotiate a deal this off-season. Eagles got a deal done early with Hurts and it saved them money - he went from top paid to 9th highest paid QB because the Eagles locked him in first. After, each other QB renegotiated wanted more than the last guy got, which is why Dak, Tua, Burrow, TLaw, Herbert, Love, Goff and the rest all got more.

49ers would likely get a discount on a multi year deal coming off a losing season as compared to a deep playoff run season. Might be smart to pay him mid tier money this off-season instead of waiting. I'm sure he'd love to get a chunk of money, buy a nice home and put down some roots.
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Old 12-03-2024, 07:17 PM   #6840
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Even if they "get right" or "as right as they can" I don't think they are beating the Lions. The others, it's at least a possibility.
Crazier stuff has happened - that's why they play the games! The Wild Card Giants beat the Undefeated Patriots in Super Bowl 42. Pats were 12 point favorites!
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49ers would likely get a discount on a multi year deal coming off a losing season as compared to a deep playoff run season. Might be smart to pay him mid tier money this off-season instead of waiting. .

What is mid-tier money to you? Like Carr or Mayfield money (35ish)? I'd be really surprised if the deal was in that range. I think it is going to be in the 50+/yr range. Why would Purdy take substantially less than Love? What has Jordon Love done? Purdy's numbers *this year* (yards, comp%, QBR, int%, rushing) (other than TDs) are better than Love and he is 1 year younger.

Hurts were 5/255 (51/yr) - it seems pretty cap-friendly with voidable years though
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What is mid-tier money to you? Like Carr or Mayfield money (35ish)? I'd be really surprised if the deal was in that range. I think it is going to be in the 50+/yr range. Why would Purdy take substantially less than Love? What has Jordon Love done? Purdy's numbers *this year* (yards, comp%, QBR, int%, rushing) (other than TDs) are better than Love and he is 1 year younger.

Hurts were 5/255 (51/yr) - it seems pretty cap-friendly with voidable years though
I am coming around to $50MM.

A low end starter is getting $35MM. Purdy may not be a superstar but he is above the $35MM QBs.

Considering just about every team pays there QB $50MM, the 49ers might still be competitive.
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Ewww..

Pacer go from 2nd place in the NBA cup last year to 2nd worst in the NBA Cup this year. 0-4 with -60 scoring. Yikes
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Ewww..

Pacer go from 2nd place in the NBA cup last year to 2nd worst in the NBA Cup this year. 0-4 with -60 scoring. Yikes
Brock Purdy disapproves.
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Even if they "get right" or "as right as they can" I don't think they are beating the Lions. The others, it's at least a possibility.
Even an opportunity against the Lions would be a miracle, and that also means CMC would hypothetically be available. Stranger things have happened.
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If Scottish Punk is correct, I don't think that applies. A couple posts up, he posted: "5th year option only applies to first round draft picks. 49ers would have to franchise him after next year to keep him without an extension."

The 49ers would be heartless to fine the kid after all he's done. Plus, you can't get blood from a stone. With Purdy earning approximately $750,000 per year, for the last four years, after California taxes, he's probably takes home around $400k, which in San Francisco with the cost of living probably gets him a one bedroom condo and an off-the-lot BMW.
Lets not make it seem like Purdy is living under a bridge. Under paid as a QB, for sure. But there is so much collateral money that comes from being the QB for the 49ers.

He has brand deals with Alaska Airlines, Toyota, Buffalo Wild Wings, Pepsi, some sports drink ETC.

I heard he gets almost $50K each time he shows up to sign for Fanatics.

And he rakes in an estimated $2.5MIL a year from the NFLPA on licensing deals as well. Which include jersey sales, as he has been at the top of the list.

Mahomes makes almost $4MIL from those same NFLPA deals alone.

Lets say Brock gets another $5MIL a year from all that. Would he make the same extra money, if he was throwing the ball in Jacksonville? I doubt it.
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2026 QB franchise tag would be around $40 million. Still a bargin compared to similar QB contracts. If 49ers choose to tag as non-exclusive, Purdy can test the market. 49ers can than choose to match or get two firsts? as compensation.
Which is what the 49ers should do. He’s worth $40M in that system. He will get zero offers over that from other teams.
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Which is what the 49ers should do. He’s worth $40M in that system. He will get zero offers over that from other teams.
I really think this is the answer.

But I've been wrong before.
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I really think this is the answer.

But I've been wrong before.
It is the answer but teams for some reason 💩 themselves to overpay QBs. I said it before, I’d draft a QB every year in the third or fourth round and let them walk after the rookie contract was up (unless they are a superstar no doubt top 5 QB).
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