Mookie Betts is kind of good

[NeedChapmans]

1-23, BB, 9K

[66_Fiat]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

1-23, BB, 9K

Outside of that, 10 game hitting streak batting over .400

[Brewers3]

Originally Posted by 66_Fiat

Outside of that, 10 game hitting streak batting over .400

Nah let’s just look at the first bat of each game because that’s the only thing that matters.

[66_Fiat]

Originally Posted by Brewers3

Nah let’s just look at the first bat of each game because that’s the only thing that matters.

Reverse psychology on NC's part to get moar Betts!

[Brewers3]

Originally Posted by 66_Fiat

Reverse psychology on NC's part to get moar Betts!

We should've caught on earlier! Bid em up!!!

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by 66_Fiat

Outside of that, 10 game hitting streak batting over .400

Originally Posted by Brewers3

Nah let’s just look at the first bat of each game because that’s the only thing that matters.

Originally Posted by 66_Fiat

Reverse psychology on NC's part to get moar Betts!

Originally Posted by Brewers3

We should've caught on earlier! Bid em up!!!

This made me laugh.

[66_Fiat]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

This made me laugh.

I can see into your card collecting soul, LoL

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

1-23, BB, 9K

1-24, BB, 10K

[moose84]

Scored 100 runs this season in 103 games

Fastest Red Sox to do that since Ted Williams in '49 (102 games)

[CardBoard4Life]

Look at those numbers, he's like a cross between Jose Canseco and Rod Carew.

[NeedChapmans]

1-26, BB, 11K.

Mookie has become an automatic out leading off for a month.

[broncomanning18]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

1-26, BB, 11K.

Mookie has become an automatic out leading off for a month.

I am confused, dont you love mookie betts, and dont you have a ton invested into him. I mean I respect the facts, but seems like you have a reverse agenda Are you trying to get me to drop prices on my mookies ?

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by broncomanning18

I am confused, dont you love mookie betts, and dont you have a ton invested into him. I mean I respect the facts, but seems like you have a reverse agenda Are you trying to get me to drop prices on my mookies ?

I'm fairly certain that in how ever many thousands of posts I have, I've never once written one with a price agenda. Prices don't move because of BO; I'll fight anyone to the death about that.

Simply stating that Mookie has cost himself the MVP because he's slumping; hard. His leadoff AB's have been really awful for a while now; he's been unprepared to start the game; flailing at a lot of bad pitches. In more than half of those AB's, he's down 0-2 in the count simply by watching 2 strikes.

Funked.

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

1-26, BB, 11K.

Mookie has become an automatic out leading off for a month.

How many open frames is that?

[broncomanning18]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

I'm fairly certain that in how ever many thousands of posts I have, I've never once written one with a price agenda. Prices don't move because of BO; I'll fight anyone to the death about that.

Simply stating that Mookie has cost himself the MVP because he's slumping; hard. His leadoff AB's have been really awful for a while now; he's been unprepared to start the game; flailing at a lot of bad pitches. In more than half of those AB's, he's down 0-2 in the count simply by watching 2 strikes.

Funked.

So you like JD then, or do you like Jose ?

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by broncomanning18

So you like JD then, or do you like Jose ?

JD had zero chance from day one.

All Jose right now.

[moosetequila]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

JD had zero chance from day one.

All Jose right now.

Oh noessss… gonna make Stifle cry on that one!

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by moosetequila

Oh noessss… gonna make Stifle type a 200pg novel on that one!

FIFY.

[moosetequila]

Originally Posted by cnewby

FIFY.

HAHAHAHA

[speedyjg13]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

1-26, BB, 11K.

Mookie has become an automatic out leading off for a month.

I do the same thing in the Trout thread... when hes slumping, I put it out and people PM me asking what my agenda is lol. I collect Trout but if hes slumping, then it needs to be said. When I saw your posts reference Mookie, it kinda reminded me of me on the Trout thread. We cant only be posting the positive, the negative also.

I don't follow the Sox, but had I not gone into this thread, I wouldn't have known Mookie is in a slumping phase right now.

[dbpsooner]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

1-26, BB, 11K.

Mookie has become an automatic out leading off for a month.

What exactly is the significance of this stat? His slash line over the last 30 games is .311/.391/.541. The Sox are 22-8 in that period. Is the first at bat somehow more important than all the other at bats in a game? It would not appear to be. Maybe he is seeing more pitches in the first at bat on purpose.
I don't know but it I would be curious what significance you think it has? Just seems like a silly stat to keep track of to me. If this is a slump, people must really have huge expectations for this guy. Do we know what the stats are for his 2nd ab, or 3rd or 4th? Thanks, I would be curious your thoughts on the significance. I assume because you are keeping track you must think there is some significance?

[imbluestreak23]

Originally Posted by dbpsooner

What exactly is the significance of this stat? His slash line over the last 30 games is .311/.391/.541. The Sox are 22-8 in that period. Is the first at bat somehow more important than all the other at bats in a game? It would not appear to be. Maybe he is seeing more pitches in the first at bat on purpose.
I don't know but it I would be curious what significance you think it has? Just seems like a silly stat to keep track of to me. If this is a slump, people must really have huge expectations for this guy. Do we know what the stats are for his 2nd ab, or 3rd or 4th? Thanks, I would be curious your thoughts on the significance. I assume because you are keeping track you must think there is some significance?

Lead off at bat is the only important at bat of the game. None of the others matter.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by dbpsooner

What exactly is the significance of this stat? His slash line over the last 30 games is .311/.391/.541. The Sox are 22-8 in that period. Is the first at bat somehow more important than all the other at bats in a game? It would not appear to be. Maybe he is seeing more pitches in the first at bat on purpose.

I don't know but it I would be curious what significance you think it has? Just seems like a silly stat to keep track of to me. If this is a slump, people must really have huge expectations for this guy. Do we know what the stats are for his 2nd ab, or 3rd or 4th? Thanks, I would be curious your thoughts on the significance. I assume because you are keeping track you must think there is some significance?

Mookie has been a pretty strong player in the league for four years now; WAR of 30+ across those four years ... dude has been great.

But, do you know how he's done as a lead-off hitter? The splits are oddly dramatic. It's so strange really, for whatever reason when Mookie is in the lead-off spot; where he's been most of his career, the dude just comes out and absolutely sucks; even with a stellar 2016. This is the petition to remove him from the #1 spot because he's clearly not the guy you want starting the game.

Beyond his terrible #'s for the last month from this position, here are the splits for Mookie Betts in his career; when leading off a game.

2018 - (102 games at LO) . 266 BA / .324 OBP
2017 - (81 games at LO) - .203 BA / .272 OBP
2016 - (109 games at LO) - .354 BA / .413 OBP
2015 - (117 games at LO) - .200 BA / .248 OBP

So in 2016, during his almost MVP season; Mookie had a sparkling BA and OBP from that first AB of the game. But the other three years, he's actually been the WORST lead-off hitter in baseball. Look at those BA's and look at those OBP's compared to his season ending line.

When you consider the individual AB; I agree that it's hard to consider significance, but when you look at the trend, I think Mookie needs to go from the #1 spot. He's never up with runners on base because he always follows Holt / Leon / JBJ and he's clearly not the guy you want leading off a game. He must approach the AB different at the start then he does at other times because when you meld the averages above, you come out with Mookie Betts; career leadoff AB hitter - .253 AVG / .314 OBP. That sucks.

[dbpsooner]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Mookie has been a pretty strong player in the league for four years now; WAR of 30+ across those four years ... dude has been great.

But, do you know how he's done as a lead-off hitter? The splits are oddly dramatic. It's so strange really, for whatever reason when Mookie is in the lead-off spot; where he's been most of his career, the dude just comes out and absolutely sucks; even with a stellar 2016. This is the petition to remove him from the #1 spot because he's clearly not the guy you want starting the game.

Beyond his terrible #'s for the last month from this position, here are the splits for Mookie Betts in his career; when leading off a game.

2018 - (102 games at LO) . 266 BA / .324 OBP
2017 - (81 games at LO) - .203 BA / .272 OBP
2016 - (109 games at LO) - .354 BA / .413 OBP
2015 - (117 games at LO) - .200 BA / .248 OBP

So in 2016, during his almost MVP season; Mookie had a sparkling BA and OBP from that first AB of the game. But the other three years, he's actually been the WORST lead-off hitter in baseball. Look at those BA's and look at those OBP's compared to his season ending line.

When you consider the individual AB; I agree that it's hard to consider significance, but when you look at the trend, I think Mookie needs to go from the #1 spot. He's never up with runners on base because he always follows Holt / Leon / JBJ and he's clearly not the guy you want leading off a game. He must approach the AB different at the start then he does at other times because when you meld the averages above, you come out with Mookie Betts; career leadoff AB hitter - .253 AVG / .314 OBP. That sucks.

Are these his stats as a lead off hitter or simply stats from his first at bat in the game as a lead off hitter? Who cares how he does in his first AB of the game?

[moosetequila]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Mookie has been a pretty strong player in the league for four years now; WAR of 30+ across those four years ... dude has been great.

But, do you know how he's done as a lead-off hitter? The splits are oddly dramatic. It's so strange really, for whatever reason when Mookie is in the lead-off spot; where he's been most of his career, the dude just comes out and absolutely sucks; even with a stellar 2016. This is the petition to remove him from the #1 spot because he's clearly not the guy you want starting the game.

Beyond his terrible #'s for the last month from this position, here are the splits for Mookie Betts in his career; when leading off a game.

2018 - (102 games at LO) . 266 BA / .324 OBP
2017 - (81 games at LO) - .203 BA / .272 OBP
2016 - (109 games at LO) - .354 BA / .413 OBP
2015 - (117 games at LO) - .200 BA / .248 OBP

So in 2016, during his almost MVP season; Mookie had a sparkling BA and OBP from that first AB of the game. But the other three years, he's actually been the WORST lead-off hitter in baseball. Look at those BA's and look at those OBP's compared to his season ending line.

When you consider the individual AB; I agree that it's hard to consider significance, but when you look at the trend, I think Mookie needs to go from the #1 spot. He's never up with runners on base because he always follows Holt / Leon / JBJ and he's clearly not the guy you want leading off a game. He must approach the AB different at the start then he does at other times because when you meld the averages above, you come out with Mookie Betts; career leadoff AB hitter - .253 AVG / .314 OBP. That sucks.

Whoa... thought I stumbled into the Stifle JD love-fest page. Wall of words