PWCC Altered Cards Callout Thread - 1952 Topps Mantle etc - Page 28

3124508 on COMC · 05-11-2019, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mjohnatgt

They look like the same card; do you see anything specific? EX 5 is a grade usually given for a surface wrinkle on the back, so if that was spooned/pressed out, it would explain the difference. It also could be that it was just a straight crack and resubmit and that PSA didn't catch it the second time.

Bottom left corner looks to likely be improved. Right edge looks a bit thinner but like PSA, I didn’t measure.

JMANIA · 05-11-2019, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjohnatgt

They look like the same card; do you see anything specific? EX 5 is a grade usually given for a surface wrinkle on the back, so if that was spooned/pressed out, it would explain the difference. It also could be that it was just a straight crack and resubmit and that PSA didn't catch it the second time.

Does not look like a crack and resubmit to me, other than cracking and trimming right side and possibly some on left with improved corners.

KhalDrogo · 05-11-2019, 09:56 PM

How’d they get the right edge to look so naturally cut?

3124508 on COMC · 05-11-2019, 10:10 PM

How about a PSA 3 to a PSA 8- High End? Only whitman111.

Is five grades the biggest jump yet?

And is that some recoloring there on the front right side?

superdan49 · 05-11-2019, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

How’d they get the right edge to look so naturally cut?

That is the key. This guy has the faux natural cut edge thing down pat.

pspa123 · 05-11-2019, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by superdan49

That is the key. This guy has the faux natural cut edge thing down pat.

Nice finds 312. Yes, this man appears to be an artist.

KhalDrogo · 05-11-2019, 10:18 PM

Just another fraudulent $13k sale by PWCC.

CaptSpaulding · 05-11-2019, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Just another fraudulent $13k sale by PWCC.

And Brent gives the 48 B Musial an HE? LOLOLOLOL. Card has wear on 3 corners. Appears closer to a 7 than an 8 but Brent, in an unbiased fashion, assessed it as an HE. What a scam.

pspa123 · 05-11-2019, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Just another fraudulent $13k sale by PWCC.

They're merely offering the work of a highly skilled artist.

KhalDrogo · 05-11-2019, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptSpaulding

And Brent gives the 48 B Musial an HE? LOLOLOLOL. Card has wear on 3 corners. Appears closer to a 7 than an 8 but Brent, in an unbiased fashion, assessed it as an HE. What a scam.

The wear on the bottom right corner looks significant enough to drop it down to a 6. Could just be the scan. Either way, an 8 is total bunk.

3124508 on COMC · 05-11-2019, 10:35 PM

Lots off the right side on this whitman111 special:

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...-29-1953352018
https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1934584

superdan49 · 05-11-2019, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by pspa123

They're merely offering the work of a highly skilled artist.

This guy has a surgeon's precision

But in all seriousness this is really, really bad.

KhalDrogo · 05-11-2019, 10:38 PM

312 dropping bombs on a Saturday night. What do you have to say PWCC?

pspa123 · 05-11-2019, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by superdan49

This guy has a surgeon's precision

But in all seriousness this is really, really bad.

And has been for many years.

3124508 on COMC · 05-11-2019, 10:54 PM

A salt of the earth consignor I can assure you!

What a trim!

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...hof-1939551013
https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1859830

KhalDrogo · 05-11-2019, 10:56 PM

That Howe is so blatantly short...

Starting to get suspicious about PSA. You would not purposefully trim cards that much unless you knew you’d be able to pass them through.

KhalDrogo · 05-11-2019, 10:58 PM

PWCC, will you be reaching out to all of the buyers of these altered cards?

3124508 on COMC · 05-11-2019, 11:05 PM

Not even the Queen is safe!

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...een-1904766168
https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1936730

PuddleMonkey · 05-11-2019, 11:06 PM

Noticed this on ebay today. I like how the timeline highlights the years of shilling dedication to ~~maximize~~ artificially inflate prices. Hard to think ebay and pwcc aren't in bed together.

ThoseBackPages · 05-11-2019, 11:06 PM

ThoseBackPages · 05-11-2019, 11:07 PM

one day closer to my 52T Mantle

pejc300 · 05-11-2019, 11:10 PM

superdan or COMC - have you sent an e-mail to the PSA CEO? I keep meaning to, but curious if anyone has actually tried to reach him yet?

pspa123 · 05-11-2019, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pejc300

superdan or COMC - have you sent an e-mail to the PSA CEO? I keep meaning to, but curious if anyone has actually tried to reach him yet?

If you do, you'll get something back like, "Thank you."

3124508 on COMC · 05-11-2019, 11:16 PM

Had to make sure this was different than the one I just posted.

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...psa-1894680912
https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1850061

pejc300 · 05-11-2019, 11:18 PM

Whole bunch of basketball cards being listed by PWCC tonight - better get to checking!!!:-)

05-11-2019, 09:56 PM	#678
KhalDrogo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 41,303	How’d they get the right edge to look so naturally cut? __________________ I love PSA!

05-11-2019, 10:18 PM	#682
KhalDrogo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 41,303	Just another fraudulent $13k sale by PWCC. __________________ I love PSA!

05-11-2019, 10:38 PM	#688
KhalDrogo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 41,303	312 dropping bombs on a Saturday night. What do you have to say PWCC? __________________ I love PSA!

05-11-2019, 10:56 PM	#691
KhalDrogo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 41,303	That Howe is so blatantly short... Starting to get suspicious about PSA. You would not purposefully trim cards that much unless you knew you’d be able to pass them through. __________________ I love PSA!

05-11-2019, 10:58 PM	#692
KhalDrogo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 41,303	PWCC, will you be reaching out to all of the buyers of these altered cards? __________________ I love PSA!

05-11-2019, 10:10 PM	#679
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,400	How about a PSA 3 to a PSA 8- High End? Only whitman111. Is five grades the biggest jump yet? And is that some recoloring there on the front right side?

05-11-2019, 10:35 PM	#686
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,400	Lots off the right side on this whitman111 special: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...-29-1953352018 https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1934584

05-11-2019, 10:54 PM	#690
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,400	A salt of the earth consignor I can assure you! What a trim! https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...hof-1939551013 https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1859830

05-11-2019, 11:05 PM	#693
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,400	Not even the Queen is safe! https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...een-1904766168 https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1936730

05-11-2019, 11:06 PM	#694
PuddleMonkey Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 4,341	Noticed this on ebay today. I like how the timeline highlights the years of shilling dedication to ~~maximize~~ artificially inflate prices. Hard to think ebay and pwcc aren't in bed together.

05-11-2019, 11:06 PM	#695
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 90,283 ThoseBackPages	__________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

05-11-2019, 11:07 PM	#696
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 90,283 ThoseBackPages	one day closer to my 52T Mantle __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

05-11-2019, 11:10 PM	#697
pejc300 Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 10,760	superdan or COMC - have you sent an e-mail to the PSA CEO? I keep meaning to, but curious if anyone has actually tried to reach him yet?

05-11-2019, 11:16 PM	#699
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,400	Had to make sure this was different than the one I just posted. https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...psa-1894680912 https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1850061

05-11-2019, 11:18 PM	#700
pejc300 Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 10,760	Whole bunch of basketball cards being listed by PWCC tonight - better get to checking!!!:-)