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2014 Panini Flawless Roger Staubach Greats Patch Auto Ruby 11 15 Encased | eBay
2014 Panini Flawless Tony Romo 3 Color Patch Auto 25 Cowboys | eBay I know, I know, call me a conspirator... and I know that the Cowboys have had the same uniform for God knows how long, but... Wouldn't the Staubach fade after 30+ years? SCRATCH THIS. Found my answer. The ink they used in the time of Staubach apparently held up rather well.
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Topps and DLP used game worn Pro Bowl jerseys in some late 90s, early 2000s releases, so this one is highly suspect at the moment for being an authentic game worn piece.
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2014 Flawless Greats Bo Jackson 3 Colors Patch Auto 06 25 Raiders | eBay
Have the Raiders ever work a two tiered patch jersey? The bottom patch is the one in question. Pants maybe?
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Edit: Never-mind, I saw the heritage auctions post about it.
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Pardon me if I haven't read 29 pages but I mentioned in another BO posting that if someone believes fraud has occurred or something is fishy, people can file complaints with the attorney general's office. In this case it would be the Texas AG.
Granted the more information/evidence someone has the better chance there will be for customers should there be any truth to the claim. Here's the link if anyone is interested. https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/forms/cpd/form.php |
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From John Brown, (someone who knew Ernie better than most people), regarding that day you incorrectly claim he wore a jersey on that field: Before a preseason game with the Pittsburgh Steelers, Davis was introduced with the team. "The PA announcer said, 'Here is another member of the Browns' offensive team, No. 45, Ernie Davis,' " Modell said. "The place was bedlam. You couldn't hear yourself think. It was extraordinary. The ovation he received, you can't describe it. A lot of people didn't know what he had or knew that he was really very sick. There were rumors, but still, people cheered and screamed. It was unbelievable, and that made him happy." Said John Brown: "Oh man, that night. He had on his skinny tie, tweed jacket, nice shirt. It was like there was a hush as he walked out to the middle of the field. You had something like 85,000 people go crazy when the spotlight hit him. I'm sure there were a lot of people that were around that told their kids." ************************* If he wore a "nice shirt, skinny tie, and tweed jacket", he did not have the college all-star jersey on, or any other for that matter. |
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Have we ever seen an event-worn jersey statement where the jersey was actually game-worn? LOL |
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Quite a PR nightmare.
Sounds like Panini needs to hire a PR firm to assess their current brand standings and address how to repair their brand. The company needs to make huge strides in operational transparency to regain consumer confidence. I've felt for quite some time that the card companies fail to offer the transparency that consumers deserve. The COAs have become a joke. Even one mistake causes irreparable damage to all former COAs. I guess it takes a SNAFU to open their eyes to a detail that has been lacking. |
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I can't believe they do so well on the junk they sell as it is: Score, Hot Rookies, Elite, Certified, Limited, Rookies and Stars, Absolute, Playbook, etc. Yeah, I'm one of those people who will scale down my collecting big-time if not completely in 2016...
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Funny since they state he never played a down themselves. https://paniniamerica.wordpress.com/...ures-football/
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Many, if not most who comment about 'boycott' fail to understand that by buying secondary cards, but refraining from boxes is not a boycott. I'm not referring to you, just the general feel of those who are upset. If those who want to make a revenue difference really want to make a difference then they must refrain from group breaks and buying singles, no matter the age. Even the trading of their product benefits the company if it pulls another into their consumer circle. Purchase boycotts almost never work because they are basically the consumer form of a cartel and someone always cheats. If enough people boycott, the prices will fall and some of the boycotters will cheat and return to buying. |
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I question a lot of these HOF players that have game worn stuff in cards from late 2000's on. Were do they get these how do they stay in such good shape after 30-50 years later? That's why I thought at too does game worn count when they were at a team alumni day were they are introduced before the game wearing a jersey and then the card company then buys them claiming game worn since it was worn on a game day? Just happens to be decades after they retired?
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They not only screwed up the NFL wording but the college wording as well. To this point, I don't know how much value their "guarantee" is worth, sad to say. |
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I would argue it's worth next to nothing at this point
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Given the entirety of this situation, it is actually kind of funny to me that Panini uses "The Vigilance Theme" template from wordpress.com for there Knight's Lance blog
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I am truly disappointed with the Panini Flawless news and now question everything I have from them. I am sure this goes beyond Flawless but no one spoke up until now. In their eyes, we are the stupid ones who continue to buy their products with whatever they put in them.
They had to have known what was going in Flawless because they do a cost and P/L projection with every product to calculate the profits. It's a shame. |
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Tracy Hackler's birthday party is still considered an event right?
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#724 |
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Do you think they have players wear jerseys while they sign cards/stickers so they can have those as 'event-worn' as well?
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I got some coke and pizza ready for this thread. This is a joke by Panini.
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