New online coming - Topps Baseball's Finest - Page 297

premium1981 · 09-12-2021, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacmeyer

I could also say that love of this product is a combination of it being a relatively hard to get online exclusive and nostalgia for some.

Nostalgia is absolutely a factor for me. But I think that's why most people love certain sets from 20+ years prior. Opening up a box of 80's Topps would bore someone to death if they didn't have a connection to the 80's. But for a lot of us here, it takes us back to our childhood.

Archangel1775 · 09-12-2021, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by LittleJimmies

I'll be looking out for all White Sox regardless.

Aside from the two most expensive cards in Trout and LouBob for 2020, Eloy was the most difficult to acquire for my regular refractor set. Aside from a couple early on that went for more than I would've liked to pay, I had to wait almost a year for another to pop up for sale and I overpaid. I'm sure that was a resident WS collector driving those up.

ewokpelts · 09-12-2021, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Archangel1775

Aside from the two most expensive cards in Trout and LouBob for 2020, Eloy was the most difficult to acquire for my regular refractor set. Aside from a couple early on that went for more than I would've liked to pay, I had to wait almost a year for another to pop up for sale and I overpaid. I'm sure that was a resident WS collector driving those up.

I was just happy to score a team set(minus Robert, eff this loubob BS) for under $10 shipped. Which I got in the first week or so when prices were kinda soft on singles and team sets.

Archangel1775 · 09-13-2021, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ewokpelts

I was just happy to score a team set(minus Robert, eff this loubob BS) for under $10 shipped. Which I got in the first week or so when prices were kinda soft on singles and team sets.

I'm considering picking a few players in 2021 but I'm not really attached to the 1994 set. It's cool to see the veterans but I'm not quite sure how to price those. An Ichiro Refractor is up and has been sitting for over 24 hours at $130.

BrandonJ · 09-13-2021, 01:51 PM

I know that I am definitely in the minority with this line of thinking, but I think the 2021 set is going to be more popular than the 2020 set for a few reasons:

- Yes, 93>94 from a design standpoint, but the cards still look great this year and the color parallels I have seen so far are very nice.
- The auto checklist is a big improvement. Lots of top rookies, great vets and the legends are a nice bonus.
- The PR seems to have stayed fairly consistent with 2020, which is almost unheard of in a product year over year lately.
- 2020 was a little under the radar before reaching the status it did. 2021 was very much on people's radar, so I don't think we will see demand ramp the same way it did in 2020.

Again, all my opinion, but if there are cards you want to seek out as singles, I would definitely do it sooner rather than later!

corockies · 09-13-2021, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BrandonJ

I know that I am definitely in the minority with this line of thinking, but I think the 2021 set is going to be more popular than the 2020 set for a few reasons:

- Yes, 93>94 from a design standpoint, but the cards still look great this year and the color parallels I have seen so far are very nice.
- The auto checklist is a big improvement. Lots of top rookies, great vets and the legends are a nice bonus.
- The PR seems to have stayed fairly consistent with 2020, which is almost unheard of in a product year over year lately.
- 2020 was a little under the radar before reaching the status it did. 2021 was very much on people's radar, so I don't think we will see demand ramp the same way it did in 2020.

Again, all my opinion, but if there are cards you want to seek out as singles, I would definitely do it sooner rather than later!

I don't see this product being opened the way last years was. I bet a lot more people hold it unopened due to the high buy in price. Buying singles is the way to go for this imo.

BBases31 · 09-13-2021, 03:49 PM

Nothing but complainers lol. $200 MSRP is very fair since obviously secondary market will be instantly higher. Love the homeplate design, I'll be chasing some of those autos

Pacmeyer · 09-13-2021, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BBases31

Nothing but complainers lol. $200 MSRP is very fair since obviously secondary market will be instantly higher. Love the homeplate design, I'll be chasing some of those autos

Be glad some of us disliked the design enough not to buy or a lot more of you who snagged a box in the public sale would have come up emptyhanded.

Swipe79 · 09-13-2021, 04:25 PM

Feeling a little self-important today?

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Originally Posted by Pacmeyer

Be glad some of us disliked the design enough not to buy or a lot more of you who snagged a box in the public sale would have come up emptyhanded.

BBases31 · 09-13-2021, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacmeyer

Be glad some of us disliked the design enough not to buy or a lot more of you who snagged a box in the public sale would have come up emptyhanded.

You sound a little bitter. I have no interest in a box in the public sale or otherwise. Can't wait to buy the homeplate autos off the people who break them!

Pacmeyer · 09-13-2021, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Swipe79

Feeling a little self-important today?

More people interested = increased competition for a limited number of boxes = more customers unable to buy. What's not to understand?

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Originally Posted by BBases31

You sound a little bitter. I have no interest in a box in the public sale or otherwise. Can't wait to buy the homeplate autos off the people who break them!

Nope. It just seems as if we're all supposed to cheer for this product simply because it's an online exclusive.

BBases31 · 09-13-2021, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacmeyer

Nope. It just seems as if we're all supposed to cheer for this product simply because it's an online exclusive.

No one has to cheer. I just think it's hilarious people are complaining about the price being too high when it sells for 50% higher instantly on the secondary market. That makes MSRP a bargain

Pacmeyer · 09-13-2021, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BBases31

No one has to cheer. I just think it's hilarious people are complaining about the price being too high when it sells for 50% higher instantly on the secondary market. That makes MSRP a bargain

Ok got it. I agree about the price but think the other complaints are valid or there would have been much more anticipation for this. Hopefully it means you can get those autos for decent prices.

Swipe79 · 09-13-2021, 05:14 PM

You posted like you're doing everyone a favor.

Are you asking for a pat on the back? Maybe a little hip-hip-hoorah...

I've skipped a number of products this year and at no point has the thought even crossed my mind that I should pop into the product thread looking for people to "be glad" that I didn't buy it. As in this case, every product has sold out. Do you really think it matters that you didn't buy it?

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Originally Posted by Pacmeyer

More people interested = increased competition for a limited number of boxes = more customers unable to buy. What's not to understand?

Pacmeyer · 09-13-2021, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Swipe79

You posted like you're doing everyone a favor.

Are you asking for a pat on the back? Maybe a little hip-hip-hoorah...

I've skipped a number of products this year and at no point has the thought even crossed my mind that I should pop into the product thread looking for people to "be glad" that I didn't buy it. As in this case, every product has sold out. Do you really think it matters that you didn't buy it?

Again, if a number of people don't buy, then more boxes for everyone else.

I was also responding to BBases31's remark that people are complaining about Finest so I didn't just pop into this thread whatever that means. Anyway he's referring just to the pricing so that was cleared up.

You can calm down now.

Swipe79 · 09-13-2021, 05:40 PM

Got it - not all heroes wear capes.

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Originally Posted by Pacmeyer

Again, if a number of people don't buy, then more boxes for everyone else.

I was also responding to BBases31's remark that people are complaining about Finest so I didn't just pop into this thread whatever that means. Anyway he's referring just to the pricing so that was cleared up.

You can calm down now.

trendy26 · 09-13-2021, 06:05 PM

Who cares who bought in and who didn’t. Can’t wait for people to start ripping the product to see some cool $hit with the nostalgia!

Gthompson1978 · 09-13-2021, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by trendy26

Who cares who bought in and who didn’t. Can’t wait for people to start ripping the product to see some cool $hit with the nostalgia!

Best post yet

corockies · 09-13-2021, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BBases31

Nothing but complainers lol. $200 MSRP is very fair since obviously secondary market will be instantly higher. Love the homeplate design, I'll be chasing some of those autos

Buy in price means a lot simply because the chances you get $200 of value out of these boxes is minimal unless you score an autograph or refractors of the right players. I guarantee you there will be many major dud boxes of this at $200 per box.

BBases31 · 09-13-2021, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by corockies

Buy in price means a lot simply because the chances you get $200 of value out of these boxes is minimal unless you score an autograph or refractors of the right players. I guarantee you there will be many major dud boxes of this at $200 per box.

So....just like every single of box of wax?

corockies · 09-13-2021, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BBases31

So....just like every single of box of wax?

Compared to 2020 Flashbacks? 100%

Pacmeyer · 09-13-2021, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Swipe79

Got it - not all heroes wear capes.

Glad that people are speaking up about what they like and don't like about these cards. It's a forum. Differing opinions are part and parcel.

However, continuing to post personal swipes just makes me think that you are so invested in this product you can't see straight.

Archangel1775 · 09-13-2021, 09:07 PM

Jeez, there is a 2020 Luis Robert refractor I need for my set on auction but it's a PSA 10 and I just found out its from a non-reputable seller(breakers.rowe) that's all over the BODA posts. I haven't seen a trimmed refractor but who knows on this one. Bad factors either way and he's performing on the field too.

Swipe79 · 09-13-2021, 09:45 PM

The easiest thing to do would be to ignore me. Honestly, had a pretty bad day and probably just should not have engaged - just thought your post was a bit odd (one person or even a hundred people in this market right now will not influence availability). I'm looking forward to the couple of boxes we ordered.

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Originally Posted by Pacmeyer

Glad that people are speaking up about what they like and don't like about these cards. It's a forum. Differing opinions are part and parcel.

However, continuing to post personal swipes just makes me think that you are so invested in this product you can't see straight.

BBases31 · 09-13-2021, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Swipe79

The easiest thing to do would be to ignore me. Honestly, had a pretty bad day and probably just should not have engaged

Don't sweat it, didn't think anything untoward about your responses. Everyone has bad days, hope it gets better tomorrow

09-13-2021, 09:07 PM	#7423
Archangel1775 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Cali baby! Posts: 21,851	Jeez, there is a 2020 Luis Robert refractor I need for my set on auction but it's a PSA 10 and I just found out its from a non-reputable seller(breakers.rowe) that's all over the BODA posts. I haven't seen a trimmed refractor but who knows on this one. Bad factors either way and he's performing on the field too. __________________ *There are the intangibles that set someone apart from the pack.So the blur isn't your inability to see his greatness, it's merely the inability to measure it.*

09-13-2021, 01:51 PM	#7405
BrandonJ Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 46	I know that I am definitely in the minority with this line of thinking, but I think the 2021 set is going to be more popular than the 2020 set for a few reasons: - Yes, 93>94 from a design standpoint, but the cards still look great this year and the color parallels I have seen so far are very nice. - The auto checklist is a big improvement. Lots of top rookies, great vets and the legends are a nice bonus. - The PR seems to have stayed fairly consistent with 2020, which is almost unheard of in a product year over year lately. - 2020 was a little under the radar before reaching the status it did. 2021 was very much on people's radar, so I don't think we will see demand ramp the same way it did in 2020. Again, all my opinion, but if there are cards you want to seek out as singles, I would definitely do it sooner rather than later!

09-13-2021, 03:49 PM	#7407
BBases31 Banned Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 7,603	Nothing but complainers lol. $200 MSRP is very fair since obviously secondary market will be instantly higher. Love the homeplate design, I'll be chasing some of those autos

09-13-2021, 06:05 PM	#7417
trendy26 Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,086	Who cares who bought in and who didn’t. Can’t wait for people to start ripping the product to see some cool $hit with the nostalgia!