2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP - Page 298

NeedChapmans · 03-25-2020, 12:24 PM

Guys ... this relief bill isn't gonna happen anytime soon. With the increase to un-employment benefits, some Republican senators are saying they won't vote for it because with not working earning more money THAN working ... it de-incentivizes employment, which cannot happen.

Still need changes.

babyfaceposey · 03-25-2020, 12:24 PM

Hope this gets vetoed. Still included $400 million for mail in voting.

NeedChapmans · 03-25-2020, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TheHeel

I do not know the answer to this. How much is NY worth to the USA in terms of GDP? How much does NY give to the feds?

I read something a while back that NY gives out $1.35 and gets back $1. Places like Kentucky gives $.75 and gets back $1. I would see why NY wants and needs a lot of money.

New York contributes $1.4T (a little less than 8% of national GDP) and you are correct that generally, it makes more than it takes.

NeedChapmans · 03-25-2020, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by babyfaceposey

Hope this gets vetoed. Still included $400 million for mail in voting.

$25 million for the Kennedy Arts Center. (Down from $35 million!)

babyfaceposey · 03-25-2020, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

$25 million for the Kennedy Arts Center. (Down from $35 million!)

Hope this never gets passed at this point.

TheHeel · 03-25-2020, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

$25 million for the Kennedy Arts Center. (Down from $35 million!)

That's garbage. Should be $0.

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Originally Posted by babyfaceposey

Hope this gets vetoed. Still included $400 million for mail in voting.

If due to this disease that people cannot go out and vote, this is best for the country. Everyone needs to have he opportunity to vote.

TheHeel · 03-25-2020, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

New York contributes $1.4T (a little less than 8% of national GDP) and you are correct that generally, it makes more than it takes.

So, in theory, they would need more money than the rest of the country. Eight percent is a lot of money. Gotta give NY more.

Astros19 · 03-25-2020, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TheHeel

That's garbage. Should be $0.

If due to this disease that people cannot go out and vote, this is best for the country. Everyone needs to have he opportunity to vote.

Absentee voting has always been an option.
Harvesting votes is a horrible idea.

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babyfaceposey · 03-25-2020, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TheHeel

That's garbage. Should be $0.

If due to this disease that people cannot go out and vote, this is best for the country. Everyone needs to have he opportunity to vote.

At this point this is not a priority. Hope this fails.

chezball · 03-25-2020, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TheHeel

That's garbage. Should be $0.

If due to this disease that people cannot go out and vote, this is best for the country. Everyone needs to have he opportunity to vote.

The bold yes for Americans, not the dead and illegals.

RedSoxFan28 · 03-25-2020, 12:58 PM

Biden scared of another debate, says he wants to focus on the crisis, but where has he been for the last couple of weeks. Coward.

hairysasquatch · 03-25-2020, 12:59 PM

Mail vote = fraud. Forget it!

NeedChapmans · 03-25-2020, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TheHeel

So, in theory, they would need more money than the rest of the country. Eight percent is a lot of money. Gotta give NY more.

Sort of. The reason NY is imbalanced (and a handful of other states that are consistently imbalanced) is because they pay a greater portion of Federal taxes due to their economy. NY has a rich economy; so it's citizens pay more in federal taxes. When it comes time to dish out money, the government doesn't offer as much to "high salary" individuals, a lot of which you can find in NY.

So while it's citizens pay more in Federal tax, they also don't qualify for government assistance. Thus the imbalance. Poorer states you'll find, get more than they give. The system is designed for the rich states (those with more robust economies) to help pay for the poorer states (those with less robust economies). Socialist, in a way!

NeedChapmans · 03-25-2020, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheHeel

So, in theory, they would need more money than the rest of the country. Eight percent is a lot of money. Gotta give NY more.

Which is why NY residents won't be "even" on a bill like this; a lot of them make more than $75K. Of course rent for a 400 square foot APT is like 4k a month ... so the dollar doesn't travel as far there.

chezball · 03-25-2020, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by charnick

btw, didn't find any common ground with anyone today, and that's cool, but boy this section is a metric ton more bearable with chezball on ignore.

Astros19 · 03-25-2020, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by hairysasquatch

Mail vote = fraud. Forget it!

I don't have that big of problem with mail voting or absentee voting, but what some are wanting is vote harvesting.
Vote harvesting is allowing people to go collect votes from those who don't leave their homes.
No way that should ever happen.

chezball · 03-25-2020, 01:13 PM

Bring myself and the heel to the table to hash this thing out.

TheHeel · 03-25-2020, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by chezball

The bold yes for Americans, not the dead and illegals.

110% agree.

Only US citizens who are living and not in prison.

TheHeel · 03-25-2020, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by chezball

Bring myself and the heel to the table to hash this thing out.

We would have a deal struck quicker than the joff politcians.

chezball · 03-25-2020, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TheHeel

We would have a deal struck quicker than the joff politcians.

tru dat

spuds1961 · 03-25-2020, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TheHeel

That's garbage. Should be $0.

If due to this disease that people cannot go out and vote, this is best for the country. Everyone needs to have he opportunity to vote.

And trust me everyone and I do mean everyone even those supposedly not allowed will have the opportunity to vote and that is where the problem lies.

TheHeel · 03-25-2020, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by spuds1961

And trust me everyone and I do mean everyone even those supposedly not allowed will have the opportunity to vote and that is where the problem lies.

What happens if this virus isn’t defeated or if there is a fall flair up and voting is not available due to restrictions? Just punt this year?

Nah, if voting cannot happen due to this virus, make sure people have the chance to vote.

Boo · 03-25-2020, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TheHeel

110% agree.

Only US citizens who are living and not in prison.

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Originally Posted by chezball

tru dat

Look at that, a love affair is blossoming!

Boo · 03-25-2020, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TheHeel

What happens if this virus isn’t defeated or if there is a fall flair up and voting is not available due to restrictions? Just punt this year?

Nah, if voting cannot happen due to this virus, make sure people have the chance to vote.

Vote in 2021, guess Trump gets another year

babyfaceposey · 03-25-2020, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheHeel

What happens if this virus isn’t defeated or if there is a fall flair up and voting is not available due to restrictions? Just punt this year?

Nah, if voting cannot happen due to this virus, make sure people have the chance to vote.

You worry about that in September. Not March.

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NeedChapmans Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Connecticut Posts: 31,800 ProspectCincy NeedChapmans	Guys ... this relief bill isn't gonna happen anytime soon. With the increase to un-employment benefits, some Republican senators are saying they won't vote for it because with not working earning more money THAN working ... it de-incentivizes employment, which cannot happen. Still need changes. __________________ It is my legal right to freely profit from the notoriety of people who are actively suffering and possibly even dying and for a few hundred dollars I will gladly seek to maximize those profits.

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hairysasquatch Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: In the Woods, Central NY Posts: 36,240	Mail vote = fraud. Forget it! __________________ I am going signature-free

03-25-2020, 12:24 PM	#7427
babyfaceposey Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Pensacola, Florida Posts: 8,317 Babyfaceposey	Hope this gets vetoed. Still included $400 million for mail in voting.

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chezball Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: North East Beatoff USA Posts: 21,680 jabber	Bring myself and the heel to the table to hash this thing out.