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Old 06-27-2017, 03:54 PM   #51
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What's really crazy is Bellinger and Judge can slow down a bit and this stuff could still get higher. or at least stay high. Personally I still believe in Bregman, Happ, Benintendi, and Moncada. Plus Swanson, Renfroe, Healy. They aren't tearing it up now, but any of them could have a strong second half and change everything
This x10. It's funny to think all those names have taken such a backseat to Judge and Bellinger. Not a bad group to fall back on if the big 2 start to slow down.
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Old 06-27-2017, 03:55 PM   #52
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I understand where you are coming from, but these products were the same price on opening day as they always have been if you are talking about ordering from a distrib or in the casual collector's case, an LCS. It wasn't until supply dwindled, partly due to AJ, that prices have risen to reflect the market. You can't point fingers at "the market" for simply reflecting the reality of supply and demand.
Well, Finest for me was marked up a bit....but the point is that I'm worried about it going forward. If Day 1 prices on Chrome are going to be 120...
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Old 06-27-2017, 03:58 PM   #53
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Well, Finest for me was marked up a bit....but the point is that I'm worried about it going forward. If Day 1 prices on Chrome are going to be 120...
no reason they shouldnt be 120, if Belly is in it.

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Old 06-27-2017, 05:10 PM   #54
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Topps sells 0% to group breakers unless it is website exclusive.
I didn't mean directly, I meant through distributors.
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Old 06-27-2017, 05:25 PM   #55
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Just worked my LCS. Here is what I picked up w prices. Tell me how I did

2017 Heritage - 77
2017 Bowman - 95
2017 Archives - 119
2017 Queen - 100
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Old 06-27-2017, 05:31 PM   #56
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Just worked my LCS. Here is what I picked up w prices. Tell me how I did

2017 Heritage - 77
2017 Bowman - 95
2017 Archives - 119
2017 Queen - 100
Ummm heritage...WOW!

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Old 06-27-2017, 05:46 PM   #57
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Just worked my LCS. Here is what I picked up w prices. Tell me how I did

2017 Heritage - 77
2017 Bowman - 95
2017 Archives - 119
2017 Queen - 100
That heritage is a steal
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Old 06-27-2017, 06:23 PM   #58
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Pre release wax pumping has never been seen to this extent, and I guess what I'm trying to say is: previous years had more justification to inflate than this one. I.E. 2010 Bowman. It was a guaranteed winner as base Strasburg / Harper Chromes were $25-$30 at release and only climbed from there...mixed with a loaded prospect auto checklist. Not a fan of the gouging but it is what it is yah know.

Why am I talking, I don't even buy wax.
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Pre release wax pumping has never been seen to this extent, and I guess what I'm trying to say is: previous years had more justification to inflate than this one. I.E. 2010 Bowman. It was a guaranteed winner as base Strasburg / Harper Chromes were $25-$30 at release and only climbed from there...mixed with a loaded prospect auto checklist. Not a fan of the gouging but it is what it is yah know.

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Old 06-27-2017, 06:44 PM   #60
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That heritage is a steal
It's actually what Heritage should be, lol....
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Old 06-27-2017, 06:52 PM   #61
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Topps prints more cards, supply goes up, hits harder to hit, worth a tad less, people complain

Topps prints less cards, supply might be less than market will support, price goes up, people complain
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It's actually what Heritage should be, lol....
Why should Heritage be that number?
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Old 06-27-2017, 06:54 PM   #63
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Topps prints more cards, supply goes up, hits harder to hit, worth a tad less, people complain

Topps prints less cards, supply might be less than market will support, price goes up, people complain
lol true right here, but
basic supply and demand.
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Old 06-27-2017, 06:55 PM   #64
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Old 06-27-2017, 07:06 PM   #65
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lol true right here, but
basic supply and demand.
Might want to fact check that argument as were seeing the highest print runs in years.

Higher print runs, equal less big cards per case. Higher print runs plus higher prices = Market Bubble.
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Might want to fact check that argument as were seeing the highest print runs in years.

Higher print runs, equal less big cards per case. Higher print runs plus higher prices = Market Bubble.
yeah, demand is high. supply is 'controlled'
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Old 06-27-2017, 09:38 PM   #67
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I asked BO a few days ago when 17 Topps High Tek will be available for presale and they responded that they will try to have some available on the live date. When was the last time that happened that a product was not available until the day of release? I am still trying to figure that one out.
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Old 06-27-2017, 09:39 PM   #68
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I asked BO a few days ago when 17 Topps High Tek will be available for presale and they responded that they will try to have some available on the live date. When was the last time that happened that a product was not available until the day of release? I am still trying to figure that one out.
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Old 06-27-2017, 09:40 PM   #70
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Here's my question.

BO is $165 on 2017 Bowman Hobby Boxes.

Ebay is $125-$150. The boxes aren't selling on ebay.

Who is buying them at $165 from BO?

(And they were $125 yesterday!)
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I guess they are anticipating a strong checklist for years to come...
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I asked BO a few days ago when 17 Topps High Tek will be available for presale and they responded that they will try to have some available on the live date. When was the last time that happened that a product was not available until the day of release? I am still trying to figure that one out.
I was told the same thing about Bowman Tek after I missed out on the presale allotment.

Oh, well.
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Old 06-27-2017, 10:11 PM   #73
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Bowman Tek was available presale for a short period of time and I was able to get a case. But Topps Tek has not been available as a presale product.
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to quote Walter White

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Out of all 10k post, this might be TBP's best advice.

Remember that this forum is a wealth of information. Don't step on toes because you're upset about wax prices. There are ways around it.

I can tell you, I spend a lot of time and money on cards yearly. I'm seeing many small guys get out, many 1 box to 1 case rippers go retail.....no good long term for Distributors/Wholesale all the way to LCS's.

I knew about this and tried to warn you guys way back in the heritage thread....a lot of you turned a blind eye to it.
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Old 06-27-2017, 10:43 PM   #75
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I asked BO a few days ago when 17 Topps High Tek will be available for presale and they responded that they will try to have some available on the live date. When was the last time that happened that a product was not available until the day of release? I am still trying to figure that one out.

Everyone else is doing the same so maybe it was a decree by Topps. Something weird going on.
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