Aaron Rodgers on Kaepernick

[RogerGodahell]

People's opinions are so divided on this topic just like in politics and the country as a whole.

[cobravetteki]

Originally Posted by jasonm2121

Why is this so complicated? Teams, like us, do not want pains in the ass unless the upside is extremely high. It is nothing more than that. And to the poor teams who have yet to get him, they probably feel comfortable with the guys they have in their system and do not feel he will fit any better, so why take the chance and deal with the headaches? It is not about race, it is about annoyance with little gain.

I'm diggin it...

[Giancarlo27]

Originally Posted by RelicCollector

"Kneels during a song"

Patriotism is really dying in this country. How pathetic of you to call our country's anthem just a song.

If it was just a song with no meaning whatsoever, why do they play it before every sports game, concert, inauguration, etc.?

And if it was just a song, why would Kap be kneeling?

They play it before every sports game because the government usually pays them to do it. It is just a song, a song written by a racist slave owner that was never intended to be a national anthem but was merely a poem co opted as such over 100 years after it was written. So yeah, it is just a song with no more intrinsic value than any other songs written in 1814.

[RogerGodahell]

Originally Posted by Giancarlo27

They play it before every sports game because the government usually pays them to do it. It is just a song, a song written by a racist slave owner that was never intended to be a national anthem but was merely a poem co opted as such over 100 years after it was written. So yeah, it is just a song with no more intrinsic value than any other songs written in 1814.

That's not what it means to many Americans though. It symbolizes something. When people hear that song they think of people who have fought and died fighting for this country, for freedom. When you act like Kaepernick it's like spitting in the faces of those people and your country.

You may not agree with what i just said but that is how many Americans view the situation. That is why they're upset.

[hairysasquatch]

Originally Posted by Giancarlo27

They play it before every sports game because the government usually pays them to do it. It is just a song, a song written by a racist slave owner that was never intended to be a national anthem but was merely a poem co opted as such over 100 years after it was written. So yeah, it is just a song with no more intrinsic value than any other songs written in 1814.

[Pot Roast]

Originally Posted by Giancarlo27

They play it before every sports game because the government usually pays them to do it. It is just a song, a song written by a racist slave owner that was never intended to be a national anthem but was merely a poem co opted as such over 100 years after it was written. So yeah, it is just a song with no more intrinsic value than any other songs written in 1814.

[The Accountant]

i think this forum should steer clear of politics... oh wait.. athletes now suddenly think they're politicians

[pgisback]

That's one of the worst parts of the NFL allowing players to use them to push their political agendas. You give a voice to anti-Americans and people who hate this country.

[Giancarlo27]

Originally Posted by hairysasquatch

Was anything I said factually incorrect?

[Giancarlo27]

Originally Posted by RogerGodahell

That's not what it means to many Americans though. It symbolizes something. When people hear that song they think of people who have fought and died fighting for this country, for freedom. When you act like Kaepernick it's like spitting in the faces of those people and your country.

You may not agree with what i just said but that is how many Americans view the situation. That is why they're upset.

People fought and died in order to protect his right to kneel. I respect that some Americans feel strongly about the song and revere it for what it symbolizes to them, much as you should respect that people like Kapaernick feel that the song symbolizes the racism and hatred that has characterized much of our history.

[IronMonkey415]

People are just getting soft these days.

Reminds me of the time (aka last weekend), people thought I was racist and tried to beat me up for wearing a NOFX punk band t-shirt that said White Trash, Two Heebs and a Bean.


HELLO!!! THAT IS THE NAME OF THEIR ALBUM..HELLO!!!!

[rman112]

Maybe, like Kaepernick, Rodgers' significant other is pulling the strings..

[Giancarlo27]

Originally Posted by pgisback

That's one of the worst parts of the NFL allowing players to use them to push their political agendas. You give a voice to anti-Americans and people who hate this country.

I love America. What I don't love is the vilification and blacklisting of someone over their beliefs.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by gomiamigo

Kaep is inaccurate and not going to lead your team to the Lombardi, why would you bother using valuable cap space on him? He's simply not a good QB, and he turns 30 shortly.

If you're a team that needs a new QB at least try to develop cheaper, younger talent like the Jets are right now - not saying they'll succeed but it's way cheaper and if you get lucky you're set for years. Look at what the Skins did with Cousins. They could have brought in a veteran behind RG3 but they finally did something smart instead and developed a young guy who got better as the team improved around him.

Look at the Eagles - they're ~2+ years away from competing for a title. What good is a 33-yr old Kaep sucking up valuable cap dollars and a roster spot when that happens?


I fully support his freedom of speech but there's no freedom from consequences in the Bill of Rights. If he was a solid NFL starter, he'd have been signed instantly but he's not. He stinks. And he opted out of his 49ers contract.

Another thing I continually see is "The Jags should sign him" or "He's better than Bortles and Henne!" Even if he is (I'm not so sure at this point), where's he going to take the Jags? MAYBE they win one more game.. to get them to what? 5 or 6 wins? It's not worth it. People talk about Kaepernick's stats last year. 16 TD's/4 picks.. yeah, he was also 1-10 as a starter, and he was a big part of why SF's offense was anemic.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by SethMurphy

Nothing drives me nuts more than W-L record for a starting QB in football. Because Kaepernick is totally to blame for the 49ers defense not stopping the opponent...

so while "he" was 3-16 in those two seasons, yes his 59% completion percentage isn't good, he also had 20 passing touchdowns to just 9 interceptions, adding another 3 rushing touchdowns on over 700 yards in those games. Heck in 2016 he had a QB rating over 90.

But let's put all the blame on him, the 2016 49ers defense was 32nd in the league in points allowed, with 480 or 30 per game. He would have to be superhuman to have a winning record with that defense. 32nd in run defense, 32nd in total yards as well.

In 2016, do any of you know how many teams scored more than 480 points in the season, 1 - Atlanta (540). That's it. Only two more teams even crossed 440. A ton of QBs would have had losing records with that defense.

He also had 3 different offensive coordinators in the last three seasons, but no one mentions how damaging that is for a quarterback who is still learning and growing.


Everyone wants to say he is an awful quarterback, terrible, doesn't belong in the league. But that's just a cop out of an excuse.



Josh McCown is going to start for the Jets. He has a career completion percentage of 59.1, and an 18-42 W-L record for those of you who want to use that. 79 TD, 69 INT, 8 rush TDs. Give me a non-protest, non-race related reason he is a better option than Kaepernick who at least offers the chance of improvement and growth, explosive plays on offense.

So he couldn't even put up decent passing totals when his teams were getting crushed and defenses went soft? What does that say about what kind of passer Kaepernick is? Hell, even Bortles could light it up when his team was down 27-7..