2018 Contenders SP Guesses - Page 3

FuriousD82 · 01-13-2019, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by zeus091

The variations this year have the hometown as the school they attended

the front logo is in color is the easiest way to see the variation

FuriousD82 · 01-13-2019, 07:34 PM

Also wanted to add that the SP situation this year is going to be messed up, like it usually is because the Variation of a player may be an SP, but the Base is regular print run.

JoeAdam · 01-13-2019, 10:30 PM

Primarily a baseball collector, how long does it take for Contenders prices to cool down? Hoping to pick up a Mullens auto closer to the $40-50 range. Just no way this is a $100+ card.

Ferg1945 · 01-13-2019, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeAdam

Primarily a baseball collector, how long does it take for Contenders prices to cool down? Hoping to pick up a Mullens auto closer to the $40-50 range. Just no way this is a $100+ card.

It doesnt look like an SP. I searched earlier and quite a few were listed. If in no hurry. I'd wait 2 weeks... let the crazy prices settle and pick one up towards the end of the month.

twisty571 · 01-13-2019, 11:49 PM

Anyone explain to me why Kerryon Johnson is a redemption but 2 live Playoff Tickets were/are listed. They redeemed them that fast? Just bought a Variation RPS and my luck I will get them when he retires. His Donruss Optic is a redemption to which tells me his Optic Contenders and NT will be to

majestik101 · 01-13-2019, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by twisty571

Anyone explain to me why Kerryon Johnson is a redemption but 2 live Playoff Tickets were/are listed. They redeemed them that fast? (

Backdoored?

twisty571 · 01-13-2019, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by majestik101

Backdoored?

I don't know, maybe they packed a couple out? His ROY auto and double & triple auto's are live. I lost a Playoff Ticket redemption earlier.

Cavaliercards · 01-13-2019, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by twisty571

Anyone explain to me why Kerryon Johnson is a redemption but 2 live Playoff Tickets were/are listed. They redeemed them that fast? Just bought a Variation RPS and my luck I will get them when he retires. His Donruss Optic is a redemption to which tells me his Optic Contenders and NT will be to

Probably didnt return all the cards back in time or some were damaged. We pulled a Zeke redemption and live auto in same case his rookie year.

trask7 · 01-14-2019, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by tjforce

Ya, but on the flip side, if you’re the one who can figure out who the real SSP’s are before anyone else then you can pick those guys up for cheap.

Although it doesn’t really matter the same way it used to before all the variations and parallels meant that some scrub player who was SSP could be a $500-$1000 cars because people used to collect the set.

A few years back I made my mind up that I was going to figure out the SSP. I had just retired so I had a lot of time on my hand. First I made a spreadsheet of all the rookie autographs and then just started checking current and completed auctions.

If I found more than five autographs of any player, then I dropped them off the list. After a week I had the list down to 10 players, I made alerts on eBay for their names. I did multiple alerts for first set and last names, plus auto or contenders. I wanted to make sure I covered all possible outcomes.

The card that I thought was an SSP finally hit and I did a BIN for $200 I think. It was Aaron Kelly and it turned out to be SSP to 22. Once they announced the list I listed it for a BIN of $1100 and it sold in a few minutes.

I never tried it again because they started doing retail only and it was just too much time. The money was cool but I was more happy that I figured out the SSP.

goodole13 · 01-14-2019, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by FuriousD82

Also wanted to add that the SP situation this year is going to be messed up, like it usually is because the Variation of a player may be an SP, but the Base is regular print run.

Not sure I understand why that will make it messed up. There’s been plenty of variations in past years that were SP or SSP while the base were not.

goodole13 · 01-14-2019, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by trask7

A few years back I made my mind up that I was going to figure out the SSP. I had just retired so I had a lot of time on my hand. First I made a spreadsheet of all the rookie autographs and then just started checking current and completed auctions.

If I found more than five autographs of any player, then I dropped them off the list. After a week I had the list down to 10 players, I made alerts on eBay for their names. I did multiple alerts for first set and last names, plus auto or contenders. I wanted to make sure I covered all possible outcomes.

The card that I thought was an SSP finally hit and I did a BIN for $200 I think. It was Aaron Kelly and it turned out to be SSP to 22. Once they announced the list I listed it for a BIN of $1100 and it sold in a few minutes.

I never tried it again because they started doing retail only and it was just too much time. The money was cool but I was more happy that I figured out the SSP.

That is pretty cool, nice work figuring that out. I believe Aaron Kelly is the shortest printed Rookie Ticket to date.

sethc1020 · 01-14-2019, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by FuriousD82

the front logo is in color is the easiest way to see the variation

So the ones with the front logo in color and the players hometown on the back are the variations? Seems odd that those would be the variation and not the base. Not a big fan of how many variations there are this year. Every player has a base, a base variation, a stub variation, an acetate, a 20th anniversary variation, then to top it off you have Playoff, Cracked Ice, and Championship parallels of both base variations. Then with the playoff parallels some are #/99, #/49, #/15, #/10 and the same with the Championship tickets. Just WAY too many variations IMO, I know that Panini did this so they can create more product to box and sell becasue of the strong RC class this year but man!

bradical · 01-14-2019, 09:52 AM

Just from the looks of active listings, I am guessing that Ronald Jones RPS is going to be a SP.

bmc398 · 01-14-2019, 10:11 AM

The massive amounts of variations have

A. killed the SP market

and

B. made it much, much much harder to figure out what is SP and what is not.

Back before there were 1000s of parallels, the guy either had lots of base autos....or he didn't. Now, the guy might have 100 parallels on eBay but 1 or no base. Sure, a few people will chase the base SP...but if you just want a Contenders auto of your guy...you can buy the variation...or one of the 1000s of other parallels of that guy.

Shame what they have done to this brand.

IndySportsCards · 01-14-2019, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by bmc398

Shame what they have done to this brand.

It's not limited to this brand. The companies are doing it almost every product. Even Bowman Baseball has buttloads of new refractors, making you think you're pulling value, but you're pulling a Blue Wave, which is a pale imitation of a Blue Refractor auto.. doubling/tripling the output of hits, but devaluing the product the same time.

NYGiants72 · 01-14-2019, 12:27 PM

Just pulled the trigger on a Lauletta Base Contenders - may regret it if he flies out of retail at some point, but at least I am a Giants fan.

bassprokvd · 01-14-2019, 12:35 PM

Dalton Schultz still only has one variation on Ebay. 5 days after release. It has t ok be a SSP.

Mountaineer · 01-14-2019, 12:46 PM

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I pull scrubs · 01-14-2019, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bassprokvd

Dalton Schultz still only has one variation on Ebay. 5 days after release. It has t ok be a SSP.

I hope you are right - I pulled the regular version on Friday and I'm holding it for now.

bassprokvd · 01-14-2019, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by I pull scrubs

I hope you are right - I pulled the regular version on Friday and I'm holding it for now.

There has been everything but 1 variation and no base yet.

NYGiants72 · 01-14-2019, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bassprokvd

There has been everything but 1 variation and no base yet.

Saw two base pulled in back to back cases the other night. No other variations besides mine and what is on ebay.

hickson#21 · 01-14-2019, 10:19 PM

Pulled a Mike Hughes Base and none are listed or sold. Hoping its a SSP.

bassprokvd · 01-15-2019, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NYGiants72

Saw two base pulled in back to back cases the other night. No other variations besides mine and what is on ebay.

Still only 1 variation on Ebay. Almost a week after release.

Aquagolf70 · 01-16-2019, 05:21 AM

From the breaks I’ve watched, I’m guessing Jones and Lindsay are SP. Does anyone complete the set these days? Maybe just a base auto of everyone, beyond that seems far too difficult.

LC2nine10 · 01-16-2019, 10:07 AM

How many cards are sp, ssp?
Like 10 players get sp and 10 get ssp cards?

Ediy- not the # of cards made per player, the number of players who get the treatmemt.

01-13-2019, 07:34 PM	#52
FuriousD82 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 2,113 jackofalltradesLA jackofalltradesLA	Also wanted to add that the SP situation this year is going to be messed up, like it usually is because the Variation of a player may be an SP, but the Base is regular print run. __________________ My eBay store is my "bucket".

01-13-2019, 10:30 PM	#53
JoeAdam Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Illinois Posts: 5,002 sjoteo joeadam	Primarily a baseball collector, how long does it take for Contenders prices to cool down? Hoping to pick up a Mullens auto closer to the $40-50 range. Just no way this is a $100+ card. __________________ @the_ace_of_cards on IG “You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take - Wayne Gretzky” - Michael Scott

01-13-2019, 11:49 PM	#55
twisty571 Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 8,808	Anyone explain to me why Kerryon Johnson is a redemption but 2 live Playoff Tickets were/are listed. They redeemed them that fast? Just bought a Variation RPS and my luck I will get them when he retires. His Donruss Optic is a redemption to which tells me his Optic Contenders and NT will be to Last edited by twisty571; 01-13-2019 at 11:53 PM.

01-14-2019, 09:52 AM	#63
bradical Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 8,410	Just from the looks of active listings, I am guessing that Ronald Jones RPS is going to be a SP. __________________ :turkey: :turkey: :turkey:

01-14-2019, 12:46 PM	#68
Mountaineer Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: N/A Posts: 269	..... Last edited by Mountaineer; 01-14-2019 at 12:51 PM.

01-14-2019, 10:11 AM	#64
bmc398 Temporarily Suspended Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 4,042	The massive amounts of variations have A. killed the SP market and B. made it much, much much harder to figure out what is SP and what is not. Back before there were 1000s of parallels, the guy either had lots of base autos....or he didn't. Now, the guy might have 100 parallels on eBay but 1 or no base. Sure, a few people will chase the base SP...but if you just want a Contenders auto of your guy...you can buy the variation...or one of the 1000s of other parallels of that guy. Shame what they have done to this brand.

01-14-2019, 12:27 PM	#66
NYGiants72 Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Sterling, VA Posts: 1,031 porcupine5604	Just pulled the trigger on a Lauletta Base Contenders - may regret it if he flies out of retail at some point, but at least I am a Giants fan.

01-14-2019, 12:35 PM	#67
bassprokvd Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: THE TITLETOWN, USA Posts: 154 Bassprokvd	Dalton Schultz still only has one variation on Ebay. 5 days after release. It has t ok be a SSP.

01-14-2019, 10:19 PM	#72
hickson#21 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 4,706	Pulled a Mike Hughes Base and none are listed or sold. Hoping its a SSP.

01-16-2019, 05:21 AM	#74
Aquagolf70 Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 1,642	From the breaks I’ve watched, I’m guessing Jones and Lindsay are SP. Does anyone complete the set these days? Maybe just a base auto of everyone, beyond that seems far too difficult.

01-16-2019, 10:07 AM	#75
LC2nine10 Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Fayetteville Posts: 2,835	How many cards are sp, ssp? Like 10 players get sp and 10 get ssp cards? Ediy- not the # of cards made per player, the number of players who get the treatmemt.