Kyler Murray chooses FOOTBALL - Page 3

Siberian13 · 02-12-2019, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Fenway55

Newsflash: Putting words in my mouth does not help your argument.

It's not an argument. Just pointing out that what you said was silly.

HeadstrongRSS · 02-12-2019, 11:58 AM

The way I see it, looks like the Cardinals will now have the ability to trade down with this miniature QB getting all this coverage. Especially if there continues to be this notion that they're moving on from the top-10 QB they traded up for last year. Which is what they wanted all along. Everyone said they needed to trade back, but no QB was worth it and were likely stuck. Someone will pay up, likely for Haskins over Murray, but the 2019 QB draft trade market is just fine. Cards should trade down.

Mitch · 02-12-2019, 12:37 PM

This is all good news for Jacksonville. The more QB's that are coveted, the better, should they pursue Haskins.

Hawksmack · 02-12-2019, 01:25 PM

One big difference between Wilson and Murray is Wilson is built like a tank. Murray though might be the most elusive qb we’ve ever seen in terms of speed. I’m rooting for the kid.

Boo · 02-12-2019, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawksmack

One big difference between Wilson and Murray is Wilson is built like a tank. Murray though might be the most elusive qb we’ve ever seen in terms of speed. I’m rooting for the kid.

Doug Flutie build, Michael Vick speed

rman112 · 02-12-2019, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mike1498

Okay and? No one has a line full of 5 11 lineman either so if Wilson is able to get by why can’t murray? I would agree I would’ve been more pestamistic has he not produced like he did in college

My comment wasn't a "he's short = he's going to fail". But you said how many guys is it going to take to disprove the height thing, but Murray's the smallest kn quite some time. Not really apples to apples IMO.

Fenway55 · 02-12-2019, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Siberian13

It's not an argument. Just pointing out that what you said was silly.

The problem is you didn't point out what I said. You lied about what I said and then responding to what you were pretending I said instead of what I actually said.

It's the oldest trick in the internet book and you're not fooling anyone.

mike1498 · 02-12-2019, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rman112

My comment wasn't a "he's short = he's going to fail". But you said how many guys is it going to take to disprove the height thing, but Murray's the smallest kn quite some time. Not really apples to apples IMO.

Did Murray’s lineman become shorter since the short QB? So you are going to say he’s going to fail based primarily since he’s short?

deansayso · 02-12-2019, 02:20 PM

Who cares how tall he is if he doesn't throw from the pocket?

Do the linemen make a complete wall and don't move? Things are always moving and there are always gaps.

Brock Osweiler and Paxton Lynch were both 6' 7". Are they HOF locks? Only time will tell...

mike1498 · 02-12-2019, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by deansayso

Who cares how tall he is if he doesn't throw from the pocket?

Do the linemen make a complete wall and don't move? Things are always moving and there are always gaps.

Brock Osweiler and Paxton Lynch were both 6' 7". Are they HOF locks? Only time will tell...

And to think Paxton was drafted so high WAS because of his height.

LALeakers · 02-12-2019, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Fenway55

Newsflash: Putting words in my mouth does not help your argument.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fenway55

The problem is you didn't point out what I said. You lied about what I said and then responding to what you were pretending I said instead of what I actually said.

It's the oldest trick in the internet book and you're not fooling anyone.

lmaooo....you seem stressed and upset.

rman112 · 02-12-2019, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mike1498

Did Murray’s lineman become shorter since the short QB? So you are going to say he’s going to fail based primarily since he’s short?

Ok, you can't read.

Siberian13 · 02-12-2019, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Fenway55

The problem is you didn't point out what I said. You lied about what I said and then responding to what you were pretending I said instead of what I actually said.

It's the oldest trick in the internet book and you're not fooling anyone.

But I was trying to fool everyone. Damn!

asujbl · 02-12-2019, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitch

This is all good news for Jacksonville. The more QB's that are coveted, the better, should they pursue Haskins.

Jacksonville and Foles are a lock with Flip

It does help should they want to trade

asujbl · 02-12-2019, 07:41 PM

Murray to Arizona
Haskins to New York
Foles to Jacksonville
Rosen to New England

#hottake

mike1498 · 02-12-2019, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

Murray to Arizona
Haskins to New York
Foles to Jacksonville
Rosen to New England

#hottake

Cool with me. But cardinals said they’re committed to rosen

asujbl · 02-12-2019, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mike1498

Cool with me. But cardinals said they’re committed to rosen

Meh.

They were probably committed to Wilks until Ryan Gosling decided to show up and dominate Scottsdale.

Fenway55 · 02-12-2019, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by LALeakers

lmaooo....you seem stressed and upset.

Not at all. I don't have a horse in this race and don't really care what he does. I'm just letting y'all know he isn't going to succeed as a QB at the professional (NFL) level.

asujbl · 02-12-2019, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Fenway55

That rumor is based entirely off of what Kingsbury said while at Texas Tech. Anyone that takes his little bit of coachspeak seriously is just fooling themselves. Murray is not going #1 overall. No way, no how.

Definitive statements are never a good idea

Trust me

Cavs in 3

asujbl · 02-12-2019, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Fenway55

Not at all. I don't have a horse in this race and don't really care what he does. I'm just letting y'all know he isn't going to succeed as a QB at the professional (NFL) level.

Doubling down

ntgm37 · 02-12-2019, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Fenway55

Not at all. I don't have a horse in this race and don't really care what he does. I'm just letting y'all know he isn't going to succeed as a QB at the professional (NFL) level.

The way you're posting, one would assume you hate him based on Oklahoma and you're in Texas...

ntgm37 · 02-12-2019, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

Definitive statements are never a good idea

Trust me

Cavs in 3

I can't believe I'm typing this, but you're growing on me.

asujbl · 02-12-2019, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ntgm37

I can't believe I'm typing this, but you're growing on me.

I’m not that bad in small doses. Probably better they blocked Blowout at work so I’m phone dependent

Fenway55 · 02-12-2019, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ntgm37

The way you're posting, one would assume you hate him based on Oklahoma and you're in Texas...

No, I have no attachment to Texas football. I went to college back home in the northeast. Living where I do, I enjoy the Big XII Conference and was rooting for Murray and OU to do well in the playoffs.

He's a fantastic college QB. He deserved the Heisman and I am glad he got it. But, like so many Heisman Trophy winning QB's that came before him, his skillset just doesn't translate to the NFL.

asujbl · 02-12-2019, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fenway55

No, I have no attachment to Texas football. I went to college back east. Living where I do, I enjoy the Big XII Conference and was rooting for Murray and OU to do well in the playoffs.

He's a fantastic college QB. He deserved the Heisman and I am glad he got it. But, like so many Heisman Trophy winning QB's that came before him, his skillset just doesn't translate to the NFL.

Now you sound ignorant

His skill set absolutely translates. This isn’t Jason White.

If Murray can stay upright at his size (not height... but build) he’s going to be really good

His skills are better than anyone in this class (and I know Haskins personally)

This is the take of someone that has done no research and hears 5’10’

Which is an issue...

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02-12-2019, 11:58 AM	#52
HeadstrongRSS Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: WI Posts: 1,390 HeadstrongRSS HeadstrongRSS	The way I see it, looks like the Cardinals will now have the ability to trade down with this miniature QB getting all this coverage. Especially if there continues to be this notion that they're moving on from the top-10 QB they traded up for last year. Which is what they wanted all along. Everyone said they needed to trade back, but no QB was worth it and were likely stuck. Someone will pay up, likely for Haskins over Murray, but the 2019 QB draft trade market is just fine. Cards should trade down.

02-12-2019, 12:37 PM	#53
Mitch Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 988	This is all good news for Jacksonville. The more QB's that are coveted, the better, should they pursue Haskins.

02-12-2019, 01:25 PM	#54
Hawksmack Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Russell Wilson Country Posts: 4,769	One big difference between Wilson and Murray is Wilson is built like a tank. Murray though might be the most elusive qb we’ve ever seen in terms of speed. I’m rooting for the kid.

02-12-2019, 02:20 PM	#59
deansayso Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Iowa Posts: 4,472 dmdean81	Who cares how tall he is if he doesn't throw from the pocket? Do the linemen make a complete wall and don't move? Things are always moving and there are always gaps. Brock Osweiler and Paxton Lynch were both 6' 7". Are they HOF locks? Only time will tell...