2011 AL Central Division winner - Page 3

BOWMANLORD99 · 02-11-2011, 04:57 PM

obviously you dont get it I said through trades also...but some of their cornerstones in the past came through the draft Sabathia Ramirez Belle Swindell Snyder..

jp98 · 02-11-2011, 04:59 PM

Dude, just shut up an move on. I mean you are arguing about one of the worst franchises in baseball and won't accept that your team is terrible and can't draft worth anything.

KUHawk · 02-11-2011, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by fungi2510

Dont really wanna argue about this, because its like arguing over who the cutest girl at fat camp is, but...
Santana is good, but who know what he will be like coming back. Laporta is a bust ala Gordon. Choo is great, Sizemore has been unable to stay on the field, so moot point, Cabrera = Escobar, Carmona has been on and off and is usually bad against the Royals.

The Royals have very little, but Butler is the best position player out of the two teams. PECOTA has Kila hitting 25 HRs this year and they are darn good at projecting. The Royals will get at least three guys up during the season: Moustakas, another position player and a pitching prospect. Their outlook for 2011 is much better than the Indians.

Regarding the cute girl at fat camp, best analogy ever, and so true. I find myself agreeing with about 98% of everything Fungi says. I agree Royals finish 4th this year ahead of the Indians, behind everyone else. Their pitching staff looks terrible for the year. Butler is Paul Molitor trapped in Jim Thome's body. This will be a breakout year for both Kila & Gordon in my opinion. When I say breakout year for Gordon, I mean average MLB player breakout, nothing phenomenal. If he would learn to lay off that low and inside breaking pitch he could do quite well.

It will be interesting to see how not playing first as much will affect Butler. I think Kila will get the lion's share of the games at 1B and see Butler DH'ing 70% of the time. Time will tell, but I'll take the Twins to win the division with Chicago close behind. Detroit will be 7 or 8 out by season's end but will be a close three-way at the all-star break.

Just a Royals homer's thoughts..

XL5 · 02-11-2011, 05:20 PM

White Sox. They have just enough to get the job done.

Pierre
Rios
Konerko
Dunn
Quentin
Beckham
A Ramirez
Tehan/Morel
Pierzynski

Peavy
Danks
Floyd
E Jackson
Beuhrle

Sale/Pena/Thornton

jand8791 · 02-11-2011, 05:27 PM

I see the Twins winning the central while the Sox and Tigers battle for second and third.

fungi2510 · 02-11-2011, 06:37 PM

I really believe the White Sox are probably the team that gets it done this year. Their pitching impresses me the most. The Central is really not very good on pitching, so hopefully that continues to 2012-13. And just like KUHawk, my views are as a HUGE Royals homer, but when someone brings up Ryan Garko as being a star, I can feel good that we can at least develop someone like Butler.

GoTribe!!! · 02-11-2011, 10:24 PM

1st- White Sox
2nd- Twins
these could go either way it's going down to the last week to see who wins the division.
3rd- TRIBE healthy Sizemore and Santana, Choo is a star 20-20-20 .300 avg. guy. Laporta, Carmona, Cabrera, and Cabrera will have a good year and I excpect a decent year from Gomez, Perez, Masterson, Donald, Carrasco. Screw Hafner
4th Tigers will start strong and fade away as always
5th Royals but I expect a monster comeback year from Gordon.

jp98 · 02-11-2011, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoTribe!!!

1st- White Sox
2nd- Twins
these could go either way it's going down to the last week to see who wins the division.
3rd- TRIBE healthy Sizemore and Santana, Choo is a star 20-20-20 .300 avg. guy. Laporta, Carmona, Cabrera, and Cabrera will have a good year and I excpect a decent year from Gomez, Perez, Masterson, Donald, Carrasco. Screw Hafner
4th Tigers will start strong and fade away as always
5th Royals but I expect a monster comeback year from Gordon.

Complete homer. The Tribe will have a miracle year if they finish 4th...

GoTribe!!! · 02-11-2011, 10:39 PM

Keep up the name callin, tough guy. We'll see in september.

tehchamp · 02-11-2011, 11:26 PM

The homers on this board are freakin incredible.
First we have the Yankee homers oblivious that Jeter is a terrible defender.
Then we have Indian fans thinking they can contend this year. Especially saying how all these guys have BIG POTENTIAL. LaPorta is a bust. I don't see him magically increasing his OPS 150 points among all the other credentials.

wolffer12 · 02-11-2011, 11:45 PM

I can tell you the Tribes drafting has been as bad as the Browns and Cavs over the past few years. They have a terrible owner in Dolan and will be lucky to improve on their win total from last year. With such a cheap arse owner they never spent money in the draft until a few years ago. (2008)

As far as the prospect list I saw for the Tribe earlier, Hodges and Mills are both worthless. Right up there with Andy Marte.

I'll end on this, I don't think the Royals are going to finish ahead of the Tribe this year but it doesn't matter because both teams won't be a factor after May and maybe April.

Chaddie84 · 02-11-2011, 11:51 PM

Twins could be 15 back at the all-star break and I'd still pick them as the favorites to win it. Only way they will go deep in the playoffs is if the Yankees aren't in it

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GoTribe!!! · 02-11-2011, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tehchamp

The homers on this board are freakin incredible.
First we have the Yankee homers oblivious that Jeter is a terrible defender.
Then we have Indian fans thinking they can contend this year. Especially saying how all these guys have BIG POTENTIAL. LaPorta is a bust. I don't see him magically increasing his OPS 150 points among all the other credentials.

Homer uh, Thinking my team will finish third in probably the weakest division in baseball is being a homer? Point is we will be better than the Royals and the Tigers.

jp98 · 02-12-2011, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by GoTribe!!!

Homer uh, Thinking my team will finish third in probably the weakest division in baseball is being a homer? Point is we will be better than the Royals and the Tigers.

Lol, good luck.

burke23 · 02-12-2011, 12:22 AM

Easy gents - no good picking a fight over 4th and 5th place. Personally I think it will be a close race to the cellar for both as they both have huge rotation issues and big gaps on the roster. But with that minor league system, if Moore doesn't keep f'ing up trades and free agency they could be relative a lot quicker than the Indians IMO.

Go Twins.

WCTYSON · 02-12-2011, 01:04 AM

Someone posted earlier that this is the weakest division in baseball. How is that? I see a few good teams in this division that can do some damage in the playoffs, if they do not beat each other up too much first.

BOWMANLORD99 · 02-12-2011, 01:41 AM

well it isnt better than the East because Boston and NY are stacked and the Rays will probably still be decent, the West has the Rangers and Angels, so it may be close with them but I dont see them as better, the NL east is stacked with Philly, Atlanta and the Mets and Florida stays competitive, The Central is good with the Reds, Brewers, Cards and Cubs, and the NL west with Champs the Giants, Rockies and Dodgers...

ohiomike · 02-12-2011, 01:52 AM

Twins
White Sox
Tigers
Indians
Royals

BOWMANLORD99 · 02-12-2011, 10:53 AM

see there you have it, Indians will finish ahead of KC

38stud · 02-12-2011, 03:14 PM

The Twins will edge the White Sox IMO. If the Tribe could ever put some chemistry together, then they could compete again. The Royals are gradually getting better, but still need starting pitching. I don't really like the Tigers this year either.

phatman68 · 02-12-2011, 04:02 PM

I really think the White Sox could not only win the Divison but the American League this year, and I am a Yankee/Cub fan so no bias here. If their rotation can stay healthy youre looking at the best rotation on the American league. That lineup has enough to get it done, Beckham will have a better year, Alexei will break out, and Dunn is gonna be an absolute monster hitting in US Cellular.

preakness · 02-12-2011, 04:26 PM

white sox but Royals will win 2-3 in a row in about 7-8 years

jp98 · 02-12-2011, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BOWMANLORD99

see there you have it, Indians will finish ahead of KC

Yep, since one person besides you said it, it's official right?

BOWMANLORD99 · 02-12-2011, 04:53 PM

not just one like three or four others did

miller45452003 · 02-12-2011, 05:05 PM

I'm dumping fuel on the fire here. I--yes me--picked the Tribe to take the Division. HAsnt anyone ever watched Major League and believe in miracles?

Besides that, I'm already nominating Carlos Santana for AL MVP. And Fausto for CY.

Ohhh and also, we signed Orlando Cabrera to a 1 year deal. If he conquers his OB of .325 last year, I'm gonna take this one step further and say World Series! What do yall think of that!?

View Poll Results: Who will win this division?
Twins	40	41.67%
White Sox	19	19.79%
Tigers	24	25.00%
Royals	8	8.33%
Indians	5	5.21%
Voters: 96. You may not vote on this poll

02-11-2011, 06:37 PM	#56
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02-11-2011, 11:51 PM	#62
Chaddie84 Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Fargo, ND Posts: 8,828 Chaddie84 Chaddie84	Twins could be 15 back at the all-star break and I'd still pick them as the favorites to win it. Only way they will go deep in the playoffs is if the Yankees aren't in it . __________________ SKOL! Go Bison!

02-12-2011, 12:22 AM	#65
burke23 Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 5,249 burke23	Easy gents - no good picking a fight over 4th and 5th place. Personally I think it will be a close race to the cellar for both as they both have huge rotation issues and big gaps on the roster. But with that minor league system, if Moore doesn't keep f'ing up trades and free agency they could be relative a lot quicker than the Indians IMO. Go Twins. __________________ * Looking for high end defensive Cracked Ice Auto and Topps Chrome Red Ref Non-Auto RC *Also LF 1997 PMG Red FB and star Non-Auto Topps Chrome Red Refractor rc

02-12-2011, 01:52 AM	#68
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02-11-2011, 04:57 PM	#51
BOWMANLORD99 Banned Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 2,366	obviously you dont get it I said through trades also...but some of their cornerstones in the past came through the draft Sabathia Ramirez Belle Swindell Snyder..

02-11-2011, 04:59 PM	#52
jp98 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 10,709	Dude, just shut up an move on. I mean you are arguing about one of the worst franchises in baseball and won't accept that your team is terrible and can't draft worth anything.

02-11-2011, 05:20 PM	#54
XL5 Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 6,683 xl5	White Sox. They have just enough to get the job done. Pierre Rios Konerko Dunn Quentin Beckham A Ramirez Tehan/Morel Pierzynski Peavy Danks Floyd E Jackson Beuhrle Sale/Pena/Thornton

02-11-2011, 05:27 PM	#55
jand8791 Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: North Dakota Posts: 2,413	I see the Twins winning the central while the Sox and Tigers battle for second and third.

02-11-2011, 10:24 PM	#57
GoTribe!!! Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 6,819 tribecollector74	1st- White Sox 2nd- Twins these could go either way it's going down to the last week to see who wins the division. 3rd- TRIBE healthy Sizemore and Santana, Choo is a star 20-20-20 .300 avg. guy. Laporta, Carmona, Cabrera, and Cabrera will have a good year and I excpect a decent year from Gomez, Perez, Masterson, Donald, Carrasco. Screw Hafner 4th Tigers will start strong and fade away as always 5th Royals but I expect a monster comeback year from Gordon.

02-11-2011, 10:39 PM	#59
GoTribe!!! Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 6,819 tribecollector74	Keep up the name callin, tough guy. We'll see in september.

02-11-2011, 11:26 PM	#60
tehchamp Banned Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Stafford, TX Posts: 2,048 tehchamp	The homers on this board are freakin incredible. First we have the Yankee homers oblivious that Jeter is a terrible defender. Then we have Indian fans thinking they can contend this year. Especially saying how all these guys have BIG POTENTIAL. LaPorta is a bust. I don't see him magically increasing his OPS 150 points among all the other credentials.

02-11-2011, 11:45 PM	#61
wolffer12 banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 6,420	I can tell you the Tribes drafting has been as bad as the Browns and Cavs over the past few years. They have a terrible owner in Dolan and will be lucky to improve on their win total from last year. With such a cheap arse owner they never spent money in the draft until a few years ago. (2008) As far as the prospect list I saw for the Tribe earlier, Hodges and Mills are both worthless. Right up there with Andy Marte. I'll end on this, I don't think the Royals are going to finish ahead of the Tribe this year but it doesn't matter because both teams won't be a factor after May and maybe April.

02-12-2011, 01:04 AM	#66
WCTYSON Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 16,597	Someone posted earlier that this is the weakest division in baseball. How is that? I see a few good teams in this division that can do some damage in the playoffs, if they do not beat each other up too much first.

02-12-2011, 01:41 AM	#67
BOWMANLORD99 Banned Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 2,366	well it isnt better than the East because Boston and NY are stacked and the Rays will probably still be decent, the West has the Rangers and Angels, so it may be close with them but I dont see them as better, the NL east is stacked with Philly, Atlanta and the Mets and Florida stays competitive, The Central is good with the Reds, Brewers, Cards and Cubs, and the NL west with Champs the Giants, Rockies and Dodgers...

02-12-2011, 10:53 AM	#69
BOWMANLORD99 Banned Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 2,366	see there you have it, Indians will finish ahead of KC

02-12-2011, 03:14 PM	#70
38stud Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,368	The Twins will edge the White Sox IMO. If the Tribe could ever put some chemistry together, then they could compete again. The Royals are gradually getting better, but still need starting pitching. I don't really like the Tigers this year either.

02-12-2011, 04:02 PM	#71
phatman68 Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 545 ModSquad19xx	I really think the White Sox could not only win the Divison but the American League this year, and I am a Yankee/Cub fan so no bias here. If their rotation can stay healthy youre looking at the best rotation on the American league. That lineup has enough to get it done, Beckham will have a better year, Alexei will break out, and Dunn is gonna be an absolute monster hitting in US Cellular.

02-12-2011, 04:26 PM	#72
preakness Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: In Johnny Ryno's soul Posts: 21,077	white sox but Royals will win 2-3 in a row in about 7-8 years

02-12-2011, 04:53 PM	#74
BOWMANLORD99 Banned Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 2,366	not just one like three or four others did

02-12-2011, 05:05 PM	#75
miller45452003 Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Russells Point, Ohio Posts: 3,203 miller4545	I'm dumping fuel on the fire here. I--yes me--picked the Tribe to take the Division. HAsnt anyone ever watched Major League and believe in miracles? Besides that, I'm already nominating Carlos Santana for AL MVP. And Fausto for CY. Ohhh and also, we signed Orlando Cabrera to a 1 year deal. If he conquers his OB of .325 last year, I'm gonna take this one step further and say World Series! What do yall think of that!?