Best Tom Brady card to buy for $5000?

[oplum29]

Originally Posted by vintagedream

SP Authentic would be my choice in that price range.

same! cool card

[powerwh33ls]

Opinions....is this a safe copy to purchase? Anything that may suggest trimming?
Thank you.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F402039572723

[KevJo]

Originally Posted by powerwh33ls

Opinions....is this a safe copy to purchase? Anything that may suggest trimming?
Thank you.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F402039572723

Its PWCC, I would stay away regardless.

Kevin

[powerwh33ls]

Originally Posted by KevJo

Its PWCC, I would stay away regardless.

Kevin

That was my initial reservation lol
I was hoping someone could tell based on the proportions of the card itself.

[3124508 on COMC]

I'm inclined to think it's okay, but I'm not certain without seeing an unobstructed view of the front bottom edge.

[oplum29]

it's graded by PSA, so for me, you should be good.

[Brian48]

I think it looks fine. very nice card. Just as good as many 10s I've seen.

[3124508 on COMC]

Originally Posted by oplum29

it's graded by PSA, so for me, you should be good.

Listen to this man. PSA=good.

[3124508 on COMC]

Originally Posted by oplum29

it's graded by PSA, so for me, you should be good.

Oh, and if you’re interested in fake cards graded by PSA, please contact me. Would be easier if someone purchased fake cards from defrauded BO members as opposed to having to send them to PSA for refunds.

[oplum29]

Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

Oh, and if you’re interested in fake cards graded by PSA, please contact me. Would be easier if someone purchased fake cards from defrauded BO members as opposed to having to send them to PSA for refunds.

i know, i've heard about that scam. but if you can't trust a PSA label, then what?

people as it is, are skeptical to buy raw. now you have a PSA scam, and the only one who looks legit, is BGS now.

[KevJo]

Originally Posted by oplum29

i know, i've heard about that scam. but if you can't trust a PSA label, then what?

people as it is, are skeptical to buy raw. now you have a PSA scam, and the only one who looks legit, is BGS now.

Either your dyslexic (sarcasm) or you have quite a bit of reading to do. Because neither PSA or BGS are guaranteed now to be unaltered. You CAN'T trust any slab these days, do your due diligence, post the card here for people to look at before buying. It could save you hundreds/thousands and a PITA situation.

Kevin

[oplum29]

Originally Posted by KevJo

Either your dyslexic (sarcasm) or you have quite a bit of reading to do. Because neither PSA or BGS are guaranteed now to be unaltered. You CAN'T trust any slab these days, do your due diligence, post the card here for people to look at before buying. It could save you hundreds/thousands and a PITA situation.

Kevin

so then what? don't buy slabbed cards anymore?

[KevJo]

Originally Posted by oplum29

so then what? don't buy slabbed cards anymore?

Some look for older slabs but the only way to know for sure be it loose or graded is to measure it and look if the card was previously FS to compare with. Be clear of one thing, because its slabbed does not mean your getting an honest card.

Kevin

[oplum29]

Originally Posted by KevJo

Some look for older slabs but the only way to know for sure be it loose or graded is to measure it and look if the card was previously FS to compare with. Be clear of one thing, because its slabbed does not mean your getting an honest card.

Kevin

i know that, but you've also got to have some faith in the system too. people are skeptical about spending high dollar on raw cards because of reprints and because of trimming, so if you have a choice of $5K for a raw Brady 2000 SPA or $5K for a PSA 8, which are you taking?

that's what i'm getting it. you can't measure the card until you physically get it.

[3124508 on COMC]

Originally Posted by oplum29

i know that, but you've also got to have some faith in the system too. people are skeptical about spending high dollar on raw cards because of reprints and because of trimming, so if you have a choice of $5K for a raw Brady 2000 SPA or $5K for a PSA 8, which are you taking?

that's what i'm getting it. you can't measure the card until you physically get it.

Well since PSA has been grading both reprints (see: 90s basketball inserts, 2000 era on-card autographs, Finest cards w/ fake serial numbers) and trimmed cards (see: literally everything), I don't know what your point is.

[oplum29]

Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

Well since PSA has been grading both reprints (see: 90s basketball inserts, 2000 era on-card autographs, Finest cards w/ fake serial numbers) and trimmed cards (see: literally everything), I don't know what your point is.

oh my gosh...if i cannot buy raw cards, and i cannot buy PSA cards because apparently everything is trimmed or fake, then what? stop buying cards?

[SleeperCards]

Originally Posted by oplum29

oh my gosh...if i cannot buy raw cards, and i cannot buy PSA cards because apparently everything is trimmed or fake, then what? stop buying cards?

I mean, yea, that would be a way to be 100% safe. Other options would include busting your own wax I suppose.

[powerwh33ls]

How does this one check out to you guys? Are the sub grades too good for corners and edges compared to surface?
Thank you again.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F383392331358

[oplum29]

Originally Posted by powerwh33ls

How does this one check out to you guys? Are the sub grades too good for corners and edges compared to surface?
Thank you again.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F383392331358

its fake, go buy a box of 2000 SPA and pull the Brady instead just to be sure...

[KevJo]

Originally Posted by powerwh33ls

How does this one check out to you guys? Are the sub grades too good for corners and edges compared to surface?
Thank you again.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F383392331358

Originally Posted by oplum29

its fake, go buy a box of 2000 SPA and pull the Brady instead just to be sure...

Its graded, which makes it legit. Just buy at random and hope it checks out, just ask oplum29 .

Kevin

[Archangel1775]

Skip Brady and go Kobe, Upper Deck if you can find one.

[3124508 on COMC]

BGS 9 looks okay to me. Again, not the best photo, but no red flags.

[Brian48]

Originally Posted by powerwh33ls

How does this one check out to you guys? Are the sub grades too good for corners and edges compared to surface?
Thank you again.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F383392331358

I'm gonna get a lot of disagreement on this, but back in the day when I was actually collecting, this is EXACTLY the type of BGS card I'd avoid unless I can physically exam the surface damage and/or imperfection that warranted such a low grade compared to the other grades.

Can the surface issues be a result of the printing process? Yes. More often than not however, any type of physical handling that would affect the surface like this would also affect either the edges and/or corners as well. This card has razer edges and corners, yet damage to the surface? Once again, unless I can physically examine the card itself, this is very suspicious to me.

[3124508 on COMC]

Originally Posted by Brian48

I'm gonna get a lot of disagreement on this, but back in the day when I was actually collecting, this is EXACTLY the type of BGS card I'd avoid unless I can physically exam the surface damage and/or imperfection that warranted such a low grade compared to the other grades.

Can the surface issues be a result of the printing process? Yes. More often than not however, any type of physical handling that would affect the surface like this would also affect either the edges and/or corners as well. This card has razer edges and corners, yet damage to the surface? Once again, unless I can physically examine the card itself, this is very suspicious to me.

The 9.5 corners looks very, very generous to me. At least that's what the photo makes it look like, especially from the back.