Dennis Pevarnick: Ebay bbcinv, South Lake Tahoe, CA is a confirmed CARD DOCTOR

[Morgoth]

Originally Posted by wcardguy

If you ask me that PSA 4 had already been trimmed. Those borders look pretty thin for a 33. I'm not sure that it was trimmed again to get the 8, maybe washed or recolored? Or PSA miraculously realized it was an 8 when one of their boys resubmitted it.

I think a crease was spooned out

[CaptSpaulding]

Originally Posted by ken161

Apparently, this guy's MO was to conduct many of his transactions offline, which does not leave digital fingerprints and makes tracking down proof of alterations much more difficult.

I wonder how many other guys do this? I also wonder how many big $$$ transactions at card shows are done to conceal nefarious intentions?

Dennis is a show circuit dealer who has access to lots of collections that never make it to auction houses or eBay. There are many guys out there who have the opportunity to buy stuff that never gets a digital footprint which is why they may be known as card doctors but they will never be tied to anything.

That is not to say that these same people are not participating in auctions, like Heritage and REA where sets or groupings are offered but that carries with the same lack of a footprint because not all of the contents of a multiple card lot will have been scanned.

[corndog]

PSA Cert #40706912

PSA Set Registry: none

1948 Bowman Nolan Luhn #9

Value gain of $254.99

This card was purchased by Ebay buyer ID bbcinv (Dennis Pevarnick) from Ebay seller deans_cards as a PSA 4.5 for $115.00 on March 09, 2018.
VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/f...160335/PSA/4.5

Same card was sold by Ebay seller bbcinv (Dennis Pevarnick) as a PSA 8 for $369.99 on July 03, 2018.
VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/f...9/160335/PSA/8

Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers.
Red box identifies ink removed on the left white border that was initially caused by scuffing across the middle of the card which is still visible.

[cking]

Great work Corndog as usual!!!!

[corndog]

This card was sold by Heritage Auctions just ten days ago.


PSA Cert #45018449

PSA Set Registry: none

1933 Goudey Walter French #177

Value gain of $2,431.00

This card was purchased by Ebay buyer ID bbcinv (Dennis Pevarnick) from Ebay seller probstein123 as a PSA 5.5 for $89.00 on June 24, 2019.
VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b.../44479/PSA/5.5

Same card was sold by Heritage Auctions as a PSA 8 for $2,520.00 on February 23, 2020.
VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...77/44479/PSA/8

Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers.
Red boxes identify doctored upper and lower left corners and edge.

[pip]

It's not that a lot of other things weren't done to the 1933 Goudey French, but it looks to me like a crease disappeared too.

[ken161]

Originally Posted by corndog

Same card was sold by Heritage Auctions as a PSA 8 for $2,520.00 on February 23, 2020.

So the doctored card sold for a hefty profit on the same day this thread started (Feb 23). If the outed card doctor consigned it, I wonder if Heritage contacted the buyer and gave them a heads-up as a courtesy?

[Bruins1993]

Originally Posted by corndog

This card was sold by Heritage Auctions just ten days ago.

HIGHLY TALENTED FIND.

If before images existed of other high-end cards I wouldn't be surprised if Heritage was selling millions and millions of other altered cards for card doctor similar to this one, such as a $500,000+ '33 Goudey Babe Ruth.

You can choose to have wishful thinking or face the fact card doctors are sucking every dollar out of collector pockets possible with absolutely no shame. You're lying to yourself if you don't realize what's going on. Slab flips are meaningless at this point.

[cking]

Originally Posted by ken161

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So the doctored card sold for a hefty profit on the same day this thread started (Feb 23). If the outed card doctor consigned it, I wonder if Heritage contacted the buyer and gave them a heads-up as a courtesy?

Probably not

[MoreToppsPlease]

Originally Posted by Bruins1993

HIGHLY TALENTED FIND.

If before images existed of other high-end cards I wouldn't be surprised if Heritage was selling millions and millions of other altered cards for card doctor similar to this one, such as a $500,000+ '33 Goudey Babe Ruth.

You can choose to have wishful thinking or face the fact card doctors are sucking every dollar out of collector pockets possible with absolutely no shame. You're lying to yourself if you don't realize what's going on. Slab flips are meaningless at this point.

I still see a 60 Minute lead segment from all of this.

Plus, now cards are being taxed more often, I’d imagine states would want to step in more than before.

[chezball]

Originally Posted by BlitzRick

This is probably bad but it’s gotten to the point that there are so many card doctors it’s lost it’s shock value when you read a new person outed on here. I used to comb through every single post when one of these were posted and I now literally read the headline and scroll to the next newsworthy thread. Nothing is going to happened to these people anyway. This will continue to happen regardless of what people think. Nobody really cares other than what happens to PWCC.

True and that's what the trimmers want, hoping it will all fade away.

[MoreToppsPlease]

Originally Posted by chezball

True and that's what the trimmers want, hoping it will all fade away.

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled...

It's the same trick they've been playing for decades and the hobby doesn't have protection against it.


...where's Keyser??

[cking]

Originally Posted by MoreToppsPlease

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It's the same trick they've been playing for decades and the hobby doesn't have protection against it.

Thats all I am looking for to hopefully come out of this.

Some protection for the consumer.

[MoreToppsPlease]

Originally Posted by cking

Thats all I am looking for to hopefully come out of this.



Some protection for the consumer.

The best protection is not to play and not pay a premium on condition.

[cking]

Originally Posted by MoreToppsPlease

The best protection is not to play and not pay a premium on condition.

You do have a point

[corndog]

It has been a while since this thread was on page one.
Pevarnick is still selling on Ebay under the same ID of bbcinv.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/bbcinv/m.ht...p2047675.l2562

Buyer beware.

[pip]

Originally Posted by corndog

It has been a while since this thread was on page one.
Pevarnick is still selling on Ebay under the same ID of bbcinv.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/bbcinv/m.ht...p2047675.l2562

Buyer beware.

He's still listed on PSA's recommended dealer page....right after the guy who sexually assaults under-age women:

[pspa123]

I thought we just read somewhere that PSA permanently severs its relationship with card doctors. A PSA court filing, no? I guess they weren't convinced about Dennis?

[Bruins1993]

Originally Posted by pspa123

I thought we just read somewhere that PSA permanently severs its relationship with card doctors. A PSA court filing, no? I guess they weren't convinced about Dennis?

In a hobby riddled with fraud, there is no overriding reason why the name of submitter and date submitted to a TPG should be private information. Especially since the TPG's claim (and market) to be in business to protect "collectors."

Collectors conditioned to all the anonymity justify it with their own greed when confronted with the reality of it all...

[pspa123]

Originally Posted by Bruins1993

In a hobby riddled with fraud, there is no overriding reason why the name of submitter and date submitted to a TPG should be private information. Especially since the TPG's claim (and market) to be in business to protect "collectors."

Collectors conditioned to all the anonymity justify it with their own greed when confronted with the reality of it all...

Anonymity in submissions, bids, and consignments is the card doctors' great enabler, and the firms that control the hobby wouldn't have it any other way.

Way way back in the day, Brent used to upload scans to a self-hosted website that actually were named according to the consignor lol which you could see if you downloaded them. As in moser1.jpg. Seriously. I told maybe three people and swore them to secrecy, and one of them blabbed, because Brent changed his system soon thereafter.

[CaptSpaulding]

Originally Posted by pspa123

Anonymity in submissions, bids, and consignments is the card doctors' great enabler, and the firms that control the hobby wouldn't have it any other way.

Way way back in the day, Brent used to upload scans to a self-hosted website that actually were named according to the consignor lol which you could see if you downloaded them. As in moser1.jpg. Seriously. I told maybe three people and swore them to secrecy, and one of them blabbed, because Brent changed his system soon thereafter.

That was hilarious.

[pspa123]

Originally Posted by CaptSpaulding

That was hilarious.

Well for a while it let me buy there in relative safety lol.

[CaptSpaulding]

Originally Posted by pspa123

Well for a while it let me buy there in relative safety lol.

After he was tipped off and hid the consignor info in the URL, I thought you could also ask Brent, at one point, if a card was safe to buy. Sorry I was laughing as I was typing. I do not recall him ever telling you to avoid something you had interest in.

[pspa123]

Originally Posted by CaptSpaulding

After he was tipped off and hid the consignor info in the URL, I thought you could also ask Brent, at one point, if a card was safe to buy. Sorry I was laughing as I was typing. I do not recall him ever telling you to avoid something you had interest in.

Yeah, after that we did have a deal for a time where I could ask in code if a card was a dealer card (code for bad) or collector card (code for safe). Of course I didn't entirely trust the answers he gave me.

[Bruins1993]

Originally Posted by pspa123

I told maybe three people and swore them to secrecy, and one of them blabbed, because Brent changed his system soon thereafter.

Does one of those three operate a forum