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Old 05-02-2020, 08:16 PM   #51
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What about how many series wins he's had vs Kobe's Lakers, Dirk's Mavs, TD and the Spurs?
fair point, but they're not etched in one's mind (unless you're a KD fan) because none resulted in winning a title.

should've stayed in OKC or at least signed with the other 28 teams that didn't had a 73 win season and a title under their accomplishment portfolio.

kd's title is one of the biggeest what if. he literally will get no respect from it, which is sad because he was unequivocally the best player in that GS team.
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Old 05-02-2020, 09:21 PM   #52
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not sure if you can find any for 5k, but a lebron spx rc auto would be what i would aim for.
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Old 05-02-2020, 09:31 PM   #53
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People think 86 Fleer Jordans are safe? They have jumped 300% in a month in most cases. All during a lockdown where everyone is watching the last dance.

That is very scary.
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Old 05-02-2020, 09:35 PM   #54
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People think 86 Fleer Jordans are safe? They have jumped 300% in a month in most cases. All during a lockdown where everyone is watching the last dance.

That is very scary.
300%? You might want to bust out that calculator again
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Old 05-02-2020, 09:38 PM   #55
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It's shaky right now, but his career has been incredible, multiple deep Playoff runs with OKC. Back to back finals MVPs and making LeBron look stuck in the mud defenively against him.

At worst he becomes a Dirk like player if his athleticism goes. He also should become a smarter player moving forward. His stuff is underpriced.
The best that Durant collectors can hope for is that time heals his reputation as a soft player for going to GS. Any top 50 player could have gone to GS and won those two titles imo. Until that happens I think his cards are fairly priced.
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Old 05-02-2020, 09:41 PM   #56
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300%? You might want to bust out that calculator again
I picked up an 8.5 for 2300 under a year ago..

More than a few have hit 6k in recent weeks.

Close enough.
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Old 05-02-2020, 09:41 PM   #57
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fair point, but they're not etched in one's mind (unless you're a KD fan) because none resulted in winning a title.

should've stayed in OKC or at least signed with the other 28 teams that didn't had a 73 win season and a title under their accomplishment portfolio.

kd's title is one of the biggeest what if. he literally will get no respect from it, which is sad because he was unequivocally the best player in that GS team.
I'm not a KD fan. I just know he's had a a brutal run to make the Finals out west.

The year they made the Finals as a young team they had to beat DAL, LAL, SA and then play the Heat.

Out East other than a LeBron team you had to play nobody. A washed up Celts?

I should go and have a look at their series wins. I mean they had to beat the Spurs just to get to GS the year he choked.

I think when the dust settles KD will be just fine. I prefer to collect players that have a legacy with a frnachise. KD doesn't have that. But I am watching a few cards of his.

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People think 86 Fleer Jordans are safe? They have jumped 300% in a month in most cases. All during a lockdown where everyone is watching the last dance.

That is very scary.
I would say it's 100% safe long term.
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Old 05-02-2020, 11:47 PM   #58
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I picked up an 8.5 for 2300 under a year ago..

More than a few have hit 6k in recent weeks.

Close enough.
So they've gone 2.5x in a year. Not 300% in a month lol.
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The best that Durant collectors can hope for is that time heals his reputation as a soft player for going to GS. Any top 50 player could have gone to GS and won those two titles imo. Until that happens I think his cards are fairly priced.
winning more heals all (see kobe post colorado/shaq)

if kd can win a couple in brooklyn with elite stats and a fmvp, he could put himself back in top 10-15 conversation.

kd also needs to learn how to brand himself. he has no charisma and all these twitter fueds with fans isn’t helping him, especially after exposing his burner acct.
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Old 05-03-2020, 12:19 AM   #60
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The only real godsend KD has is that he's long and tall as Giannis and always made his bread and butter with his rather flat footed jumper.

However, 'Nique really being the only player to return from an achilles back to old form doesn't bode well, statistically speaking.

Will he (being at potentially 75-80% capacity) + an oft injured Kyrie be enough to push BK deep into the postseason? I don't know. There's still very talented squads like the Celts, Bucks, and even Toronto that are anything but pushovers. The east is far from a clear path now that Lebron is gone.
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Old 05-03-2020, 12:19 AM   #61
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Jordan and LeBron are the only safe bets. No one else will reach their heights. Also, card prices are high now but I think in 2-3 months if there's still no basketball they'll be even higher. But if basketball does come back prices will start to plateau and eventually fall.
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I would study this thread - https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1362942

That's what I've been doing and it's paying off.
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Not sure if this has already been mentioned (If it has simply ignore this post) but have you considered investing the 5k in unopened wax?....In 2020 i've started buying more unopened wax and sealed cases and buying less singles and it's starting to pay big dividends....Just a suggestion
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yeah, agree. his gs warriors championships are not really placed in high regards in the basketball community
You have no idea what you are talking about. NBA players and coaches regard him as the 2nd best player when healthy and he dominated Lebron h2h in two NBA Finals, winning 2 playoff MVPs, after dragging OKC to the finals and winning regular season MVP there.

So don't talk for 'the basketball community.'
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Old 05-03-2020, 11:17 AM   #65
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You have no idea what you are talking about. NBA players and coaches regard him as the 2nd best player when healthy and he dominated Lebron h2h in two NBA Finals, winning 2 playoff MVPs, after dragging OKC to the finals and winning regular season MVP there.



So don't talk for 'the basketball community.'
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Old 05-03-2020, 11:23 AM   #66
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The best that Durant collectors can hope for is that time heals his reputation as a soft player for going to GS.
By this logic, Lebron is softer for leaving the team that drafted him to join all-stars Wade and Bosh [and Riley] so they could help him win a title, then did it again going back to Cle & Kyrie Irving who actually won the Finals for him, and forcing CLE to trade the #1 overall pick for Kevin Love so he'd once again have multiple all-stars to take the pressure off him.

Soft? How about scoring 8 pts in a Finals game vs the Mavs and choking away a 2-1 lead? 3 baskets the whole game.

Soft? How about his final series in Cle the first time, when he had 3 baskets and 6 boards vs Boston in Game 5?

Soft? How about another EC semis loss the Celts where he put up a 2-18 FG line with 10 turnovers?

Durant came back too early from injury to play in the Finals against the Raptors, he didn't mail in Finals games the way Lebron has done over the years.
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Old 05-03-2020, 11:30 AM   #67
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The only real godsend KD has is that he's long and tall as Giannis and always made his bread and butter with his rather flat footed jumper.

However, 'Nique really being the only player to return from an achilles back to old form doesn't bode well, statistically speaking.
Yeah, obvs if you're not comfortable with him coming back healthy [he's already playing pickup games with the Nets] then don't buy. But that's why he's undervalued!

'Nique tore his achilles 28 years ago. Medicine and rehab have improved by leaps and bounds over the years. He's gonna be more than 75% when he comes back.

Secondly, Wes Matthews tore his achilles in 2015 and came back the next year and played 78 games and the same # of minutes. He started every game for MIL this year. Just because he's not a HoF player doesn't mean he didn't come back all the way from his injury. So that thesis that 'only Nique did it' is incorrect.

Lastly, KD's offensive game as you correctly noted isn't based on high-flying dunks and putbacks like Nique or just out-athletic-ing everyone like Lebron or Ben Simmons. Durant is already one of the greatest shooters in history, I doubt he's forgotten how to drain 3s and make FTs with a few months off. At 7' tall he can simply shoot over defenders the way a 6'9" Larry Bird did.
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Here's Durant's first NBA Finals with OKC vs Lebron:
36-8-4 in Game 1
32-11-3-2 in the elimination game
30.5 ppg, 13-33 from 3pt, 26-31 FTs

[By comparison, Russ shot 3-22 from 3, imagine if Wade and Russ swapped teams, who do you think wins that series? Russ was -18 vs Wade's +41.]
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Too much risk to invest in a single card for that money. I'd go sealed wax (and keep it sealed).
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Old 05-03-2020, 11:44 AM   #71
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Here's Durant's first NBA Finals with OKC vs Lebron:
36-8-4 in Game 1
32-11-3-2 in the elimination game
30.5 ppg, 13-33 from 3pt, 26-31 FTs

[By comparison, Russ shot 3-22 from 3, imagine if Wade and Russ swapped teams, who do you think wins that series? Russ was -18 vs Wade's +41.]
Man you are on a roll today! All facts!
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Here's Durant's first NBA Finals with OKC vs Lebron:
36-8-4 in Game 1
32-11-3-2 in the elimination game
30.5 ppg, 13-33 from 3pt, 26-31 FTs

[By comparison, Russ shot 3-22 from 3, imagine if Wade and Russ swapped teams, who do you think wins that series? Russ was -18 vs Wade's +41.]
Also,don't forget about harden having a terrible series. He got all his points in garbage time. Couldn't hit when it counted. I know he was coming off the bench, but he played more 4th quarter minutes than anyone on the thunder that year
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Also,don't forget about harden having a terrible series. He got all his points in garbage time. Couldn't hit when it counted. I know he was coming off the bench, but he played more 4th quarter minutes than anyone on the thunder that year
Harden was cover-your-eyes awful that series.

OKC overreacted when they decided to move him, they had salary cap concerns going forward, the real problem is they didn't get any real assets back for him. Ya gotta do better than Kevin Martin.
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You have no idea what you are talking about. NBA players and coaches regard him as the 2nd best player when healthy and he dominated Lebron h2h in two NBA Finals, winning 2 playoff MVPs, after dragging OKC to the finals and winning regular season MVP there.

So don't talk for 'the basketball community.'
lmao

i never questioned his skills, you went out of the left field with your retort. i said no one really puts durant’s titles in high regard because A. The Warriors won a title before he got there and made other impressive feats like winning 73 games in a season.

How much respect can we give a superstar who signed with a team that didn’t really need him or his one-of-a-kind skill set at all?

His team is loaded with the league's best, so he can take all the breaks he wants. His fellow All-Stars can do the same, which allows KD to basically show up on the biggest stage in basketball and perform without any real pressure.




but i’ll play along lol. his own teammates doesnt even respect him

Green called Durant a “bitch” multiple times, sources said. In a summarized version, sources said Green shouted, “You’re a bitch and you know you’re a bitch.” The rhetoric, sources said, continued even when Kerr attempted to direct the team’s attention to his whiteboard.


Green blurted to Durant something along the lines of, “We don’t need you. We won without you. Leave,” sources said.
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