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Old 09-24-2021, 09:35 AM   #51
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Any love for Aquan Boldin?
There is such a backlog of WR's Boldin will take years to get in if he ever does.
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Old 09-24-2021, 10:48 AM   #52
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That is part of my reasoning behind L. Butler and Seymour getting in this year. Butler is the last remaining member of the 1990's All-Decade Team still waiting.
I'm all for Butler getting in. I think that was the reason why Jimbo Covert finally got into the Hall. He was the last of the All 80's team to do so.
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Update:

https://www.nfl.com/news/pro-footbal...-class-of-2022

The homer in me wants Bryant Young in.

Complete list of semifinalists for Pro Football Hall of Fame's Class of 2022

Cornerback Eric Allen
Defensive end Jared Allen
Offensive tackle Willie Anderson
Cornerback/safety Ronde Barber
Wide receiver Anquan Boldin
Offensive tackle Tony Boselli
Safety LeRoy Butler
Running back Eddie George
Wide receiver/kick returner Devin Hester
Wide receiver Torry Holt
Wide receiver Andre Johnson
Defensive end Robert Mathis
Linebacker Sam Mills
Defensive tackle Richard Seymour
Wide receiver Steve Smith
Wide receiver/special teams Steve Tasker
Running back Fred Taylor
Linebacker Zach Thomas
Wide receiver Hines Ward
Linebacker DeMarcus Ware
Running back Ricky Watters
Wide receiver Reggie Wayne
Defensive tackle Vince Wilfork
Linebacker Patrick Willis
Safety Darren Woodson
Defensive tackle Bryant Young
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Old 11-24-2021, 03:43 PM   #54
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Weak class that’s for sure
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Old 11-24-2021, 04:23 PM   #55
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After Ware is is pretty wide open. I think a strong argument can be made for anyone on the list.
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Old 11-24-2021, 04:26 PM   #56
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https://www.nfl.com/news/pro-footbal...-class-of-2022

The homer in me wants Bryant Young in.
You and me both. He was one of my favorite players in the 90's and a legend who is kind of forgotten by even 49er fans.

Prediction for the 15.

Jared Allen
LeRoy Butler
Ronde Barber
Richard Seymour
Patrick Willis
DeMarcus Ware
Zach Thomas
Sam Mills
Robert Mathis
Reggie Wayne
Torry Holt
Steve Smith
Tony Boselli
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Old 11-24-2021, 04:43 PM   #57
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https://www.nfl.com/news/pro-footbal...-class-of-2022

The homer in me wants Bryant Young in.
really? i still pulling for Roger Craig, who was to the league back then what Marshall Faulk turned out to be- a real dual threat game changer, and yet he gets no love.

i don't see how Watters gets in before Craig, or if at all for that matter.
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Old 11-24-2021, 04:50 PM   #58
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https://www.nfl.com/news/pro-footbal...-class-of-2022

The homer in me wants Bryant Young in.

Complete list of semifinalists for Pro Football Hall of Fame's Class of 2022

Cornerback Eric Allen
Defensive end Jared Allen
Offensive tackle Willie Anderson
Cornerback/safety Ronde Barber
Wide receiver Anquan Boldin
Offensive tackle Tony Boselli
Safety LeRoy Butler
Running back Eddie George
Wide receiver/kick returner Devin Hester
Wide receiver Torry Holt
Wide receiver Andre Johnson
Defensive end Robert Mathis
Linebacker Sam Mills
Defensive tackle Richard Seymour
Wide receiver Steve Smith
Wide receiver/special teams Steve Tasker
Running back Fred Taylor
Linebacker Zach Thomas
Wide receiver Hines Ward
Linebacker DeMarcus Ware
Running back Ricky Watters
Wide receiver Reggie Wayne
Defensive tackle Vince Wilfork
Linebacker Patrick Willis
Safety Darren Woodson
Defensive tackle Bryant Young
Wow. As an Eagles fan in his 40s, they were generous in that first list. Most were removed, which they should have been. This is the NFL HOF. Not your favorite player from your team, who is in the [Insert City Name] local ring of honor, etc. I'm going to reply back with the players list cut down to those that even deserve a shot.
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Old 11-24-2021, 04:51 PM   #59
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really? i still pulling for Roger Craig, who was to the league back then what Marshall Faulk turned out to be- a real dual threat game changer, and yet he gets no love.

i don't see how Watters gets in before Craig, or if at all for that matter.
Roger Craig should have been in long ago but his chance is now in the hands of the senior committee.
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Old 11-24-2021, 04:52 PM   #60
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Ronde Barber should get in

For some reason I thought both Roger Craig and Hines Ward were already in
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Old 11-24-2021, 05:51 PM   #61
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https://www.nfl.com/news/pro-footbal...-class-of-2022

The homer in me wants Bryant Young in.

Complete list of semifinalists for Pro Football Hall of Fame's Class of 2022

Cornerback Eric Allen
Defensive end Jared Allen
Offensive tackle Willie Anderson
Cornerback/safety Ronde Barber
Wide receiver Anquan Boldin
Offensive tackle Tony Boselli
Safety LeRoy Butler
Running back Eddie George
Wide receiver/kick returner Devin Hester
Wide receiver Torry Holt
Wide receiver Andre Johnson
Defensive end Robert Mathis
Linebacker Sam Mills
Defensive tackle Richard Seymour
Wide receiver Steve Smith
Wide receiver/special teams Steve Tasker
Running back Fred Taylor
Linebacker Zach Thomas
Wide receiver Hines Ward
Linebacker DeMarcus Ware
Running back Ricky Watters
Wide receiver Reggie Wayne
Defensive tackle Vince Wilfork
Linebacker Patrick Willis
Safety Darren Woodson
Defensive tackle Bryant Young
I would love to see Young inducted as well. A DT who could stop the run while getting to the QB.
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Old 11-24-2021, 08:33 PM   #62
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I’m a total homer……..but I’d love to see Ellard at least make it past the first cut-down…….especially since it’s become the Hall of “Very Good”.

13,777 Career Rec Yards
3x Pro Bowler
2x First Team All-Pro
15, 718 All Purpose Yards (kick returner as well)

Not crazy separation from Ward, Holt, Boldin, Johnson or Wayne……all while in the run-first era.

A fanboy can dream……
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Old 11-24-2021, 09:30 PM   #63
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I’m a total homer……..but I’d love to see Ellard at least make it past the first cut-down…….especially since it’s become the Hall of “Very Good”.

13,777 Career Rec Yards
3x Pro Bowler
2x First Team All-Pro
15, 718 All Purpose Yards (kick returner as well)

Not crazy separation from Ward, Holt, Boldin, Johnson or Wayne……all while in the run-first era.

A fanboy can dream……
Henry Ellard is a very valid wish. He's in the top 5 WR's that played in his era of the NFL. Gary Brown is another that gets no recognition yet has 2 rings, 11k receiving yards and 4 pro bowls. The NFC was stacked in this period and Jerry Rice always took one of the pro bowl/all pro spots while everyone else fought for the scraps.
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Old 11-24-2021, 10:54 PM   #64
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Boomer has no shot? His numbers aren’t impressive compared to QBs in the current era but I felt like he was one top tier of QB in the NFL for his first 6 full seasons in Cincinnati


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Boomer has no shot? His numbers aren’t impressive compared to QBs in the current era but I felt like he was one top tier of QB in the NFL for his first 6 full seasons in Cincinnati


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Boomer deserves a lot more credit than he gets. I don't know if he's HOF worthy, but he put up some very solid numbers for his era and hardly anyone remembers he was actually league MVP.
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Boomer has no shot? His numbers aren’t impressive compared to QBs in the current era but I felt like he was one top tier of QB in the NFL for his first 6 full seasons in Cincinnati


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The first half of his career was better than Kelly, Young, and Elway. Marino was the only one who out paced him. Once we hit the 1990's it almost like he became a different QB- mediocre to below average.
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Weak class that’s for sure
There's no superstar QB, but it's not weak in any way
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There's no superstar QB, but it's not weak in any way
Its weak in so many ways, sadly. You have 8 new names, and the rest below (in bold) have all been passed over for the Hall already in the past.

And some of these names, have been passed over nearly a half dozen times.


Eric Allen, CB – (Times as a Semifinalist: 2 – 2021-22)
Jared Allen, DE – (Times as a Semifinalist: 2 – 2021-22)
Willie Anderson, T – (Times as a Semifinalist: 2 – 2021-22)
Ronde Barber, CB-S – (Times as a Semifinalist: 5 – 2018-2022)

Anquan Boldin, WR – (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 – 2022)
Tony Boselli, T – (Times as a Semifinalist: 7 – 2016-2022)
LeRoy Butler, S – (Times as a Semifinalist: 5 – 2018-2022)

Eddie George, RB – (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 – 2022)
Devin Hester, PR-KR-WR – (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 – 2022)
Torry Holt, WR – (Times as a Semifinalist: 8 – 2015-2022)
Andre Johnson, WR – (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 – 2022)
Robert Mathis, - (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 – 2022)
Sam Mills, LB – (Times as a Semifinalist: 5 – 2016, 2019-2022)
Richard Seymour, DE-DT – (Times as a Semifinalist: 5 – 2018-2022)

Steve Smith, WR – (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 – 2022)
Steve Tasker, ST-WR – (Times as a Semifinalist: 9 – 2004, 2008-2010, 2012-13, 2020-22)
Fred Taylor, RB – 1 (Times as a Semifinalist: 3 – 2020-22)
Zach Thomas, LB – (Times as a Semifinalist: 4 – 2019-2022)
Hines Ward, WR – (Times as a Semifinalist: 6 – 2017-2022)

DeMarcus Ware, LB-DE – (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 – 2022)
Ricky Watters, RB – | (Times as a Semifinalist: 2 – 2020, 2022)
Reggie Wayne, WR – (Times as a Semifinalist: 3 – 2020-22)
Vince Wilfork, DT – (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 – 2022)
Patrick Willis, LB – (Times as a Semifinalist: 3 – 2020-22)
Darren Woodson, S – (Times as a Semifinalist: 6 – 2015, 2017, 2019-2022)
Bryant Young, DT – (Times as a Semifinalist: 3 – 2020-22)
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Its weak in so many ways, sadly. You have 8 new names, and the rest below (in bold) have all been passed over for the Hall already in the past.

And some of these names, have been passed over nearly a half dozen times.


Eric Allen, CB – (Times as a Semifinalist: 2 – 2021-22)
Jared Allen, DE – (Times as a Semifinalist: 2 – 2021-22)
Willie Anderson, T – (Times as a Semifinalist: 2 – 2021-22)
Ronde Barber, CB-S – (Times as a Semifinalist: 5 – 2018-2022)

Anquan Boldin, WR – (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 – 2022)
Tony Boselli, T – (Times as a Semifinalist: 7 – 2016-2022)
LeRoy Butler, S – (Times as a Semifinalist: 5 – 2018-2022)

Eddie George, RB – (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 – 2022)
Devin Hester, PR-KR-WR – (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 – 2022)
Torry Holt, WR – (Times as a Semifinalist: 8 – 2015-2022)
Andre Johnson, WR – (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 – 2022)
Robert Mathis, - (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 – 2022)
Sam Mills, LB – (Times as a Semifinalist: 5 – 2016, 2019-2022)
Richard Seymour, DE-DT – (Times as a Semifinalist: 5 – 2018-2022)

Steve Smith, WR – (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 – 2022)
Steve Tasker, ST-WR – (Times as a Semifinalist: 9 – 2004, 2008-2010, 2012-13, 2020-22)
Fred Taylor, RB – 1 (Times as a Semifinalist: 3 – 2020-22)
Zach Thomas, LB – (Times as a Semifinalist: 4 – 2019-2022)
Hines Ward, WR – (Times as a Semifinalist: 6 – 2017-2022)

DeMarcus Ware, LB-DE – (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 – 2022)
Ricky Watters, RB – | (Times as a Semifinalist: 2 – 2020, 2022)
Reggie Wayne, WR – (Times as a Semifinalist: 3 – 2020-22)
Vince Wilfork, DT – (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 – 2022)
Patrick Willis, LB – (Times as a Semifinalist: 3 – 2020-22)
Darren Woodson, S – (Times as a Semifinalist: 6 – 2015, 2017, 2019-2022)
Bryant Young, DT – (Times as a Semifinalist: 3 – 2020-22)
Do this analysis for past years, so we can compare them. Otherwise, it could be misleading
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Its weak in so many ways, sadly. You have 8 new names, and the rest below (in bold) have all been passed over for the Hall already in the past.

And some of these names, have been passed over nearly a half dozen times.


Eric Allen, CB – (Times as a Semifinalist: 2 – 2021-22)
Jared Allen, DE – (Times as a Semifinalist: 2 – 2021-22)
Willie Anderson, T – (Times as a Semifinalist: 2 – 2021-22)
Ronde Barber, CB-S – (Times as a Semifinalist: 5 – 2018-2022)

Anquan Boldin, WR – (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 – 2022)
Tony Boselli, T – (Times as a Semifinalist: 7 – 2016-2022)
LeRoy Butler, S – (Times as a Semifinalist: 5 – 2018-2022)

Eddie George, RB – (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 – 2022)
Devin Hester, PR-KR-WR – (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 – 2022)
Torry Holt, WR – (Times as a Semifinalist: 8 – 2015-2022)
Andre Johnson, WR – (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 – 2022)
Robert Mathis, - (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 – 2022)
Sam Mills, LB – (Times as a Semifinalist: 5 – 2016, 2019-2022)
Richard Seymour, DE-DT – (Times as a Semifinalist: 5 – 2018-2022)

Steve Smith, WR – (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 – 2022)
Steve Tasker, ST-WR – (Times as a Semifinalist: 9 – 2004, 2008-2010, 2012-13, 2020-22)
Fred Taylor, RB – 1 (Times as a Semifinalist: 3 – 2020-22)
Zach Thomas, LB – (Times as a Semifinalist: 4 – 2019-2022)
Hines Ward, WR – (Times as a Semifinalist: 6 – 2017-2022)

DeMarcus Ware, LB-DE – (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 – 2022)
Ricky Watters, RB – | (Times as a Semifinalist: 2 – 2020, 2022)
Reggie Wayne, WR – (Times as a Semifinalist: 3 – 2020-22)
Vince Wilfork, DT – (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 – 2022)
Patrick Willis, LB – (Times as a Semifinalist: 3 – 2020-22)
Darren Woodson, S – (Times as a Semifinalist: 6 – 2015, 2017, 2019-2022)
Bryant Young, DT – (Times as a Semifinalist: 3 – 2020-22)
No real lock to make it but will have this as my list mostly guys overdue to get in

Tony Boselli
LeRoy Butler
Sam Mills
Zach Thomas
DeMarcus Ware
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Do this analysis for past years, so we can compare them. Otherwise, it could be misleading
What could be misleading? Literally look at what I wrote. I don't have to do it for past years, as most of these players would be on those same lists! LOL. That is the point, these are mostly retreads that failed to get in before, in some cases, 4, 5 or 6 times before.

That is why its weak. It stands to reason, the 1st ballot players to go in are the best of the best, right?

Like last year, Peyton Manning, Calvin Johnson and Charles Woodson all walked right into the Hall, the 1st time up.

The year before, they let a ton of people in. Even so, Troy Polamalu made it his first time up.

And the year before that, Champ Bailey, Tony Gonzalez and Ed Reed walked in.

And the year before that, Ray Lewis, Brian Urlacher & Randy Moss all 1st ballot.

Here would be your 1st ballot players now. Who jumps out at you as a lock? Are these the best of the best to go in? Or is this class, while obviously talented, weak compare to others?

Anquan Boldin, WR – (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 – 2022)
Eddie George, RB – (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 – 2022)
Devin Hester, PR-KR-WR – (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 – 2022)
Andre Johnson, WR – (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 – 2022)
Robert Mathis, - (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 – 2022)
Steve Smith, WR – (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 – 2022)
DeMarcus Ware, LB-DE – (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 – 2022)
Vince Wilfork, DT – (Times as a Semifinalist: 1 – 2022)
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No real lock to make it but will have this as my list mostly guys overdue to get in

Tony Boselli
LeRoy Butler
Sam Mills
Zach Thomas
DeMarcus Ware
Boselli was the gold standard, he just didnt play very long. Not that you have to, look at Sayers. He should go in, and they need to finally have a Jaguar player in there.

Butler is overdue. And with this class being weak, he should finally get in.

Same for Zach Thomas. He wasnt the best of his era, Lewis, Urlacher & Brooks. But he has all the credentials to make it in (7 X AP, 7 X PB and 2nd team all decade)

Ware, IMO, looks to be a 1st ballot guy. Especially compared to everyone else on the list. (7 X AP, 9X PB, 2nd team All Decade team And he won a SB and he is top 10 in sacks)

Sam Mills made the Pro Bowl 5 times, but just 3 All pro. And of those, only once 1st team. Great player, tragic death, but I don't let him in.
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If I was a voter and had to choose from each category....

QB Randal Cunningham
RB Eddie George
WR Steve Smith
TE Dallas Clark
OL Jeff Saturday
DL Jared Allen
LB London Fletcher
DB Rodney Harrison
K Gary Anderson
SPK Steve Tasker
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I see Ware as the only lock. I think Hester and Zach Thomas should make the cut. Really unsure after that. Maybe the Allens.
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