2020 select basketball overprinting

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

My point exactly. Everyone is an "investor" and flipper now so anything that doesn't pump is junk

I collect Malcolm Brogdon. Only Select I’ll buy are Black, Gold, Gold Wave, Tie Dye, and Zebra. Everything else to me is junk that I won’t touch. So does that make me an investor?

[77maddog]

Prior to retail overprinting this was my favorite brand. I only collect the TD’s now from this brand. Overprinting is really hurting the hobby IMO.


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[msink28]

I really enjoyed Select retail! Most fun I've had opening packs in awhile. Great MSRP experience. Loved the Hanger format. Courtsides look great in my view.

[callou2131]

I have gotten a TON of prizm retail this year, and have never seen select. But football select they stocked for literally months. It is total watered down trash, so wouldn't surprise me if they did the same for basketball.

[mbuch21]

One and One is the new Select.

[PSA2Pac]

Originally Posted by 90skid

I think they need to make Donruss Elite into a chrome card. Then perhaps it would get the respect it deserves. Think about it... it's what everyone asks for here..... wasn't printed to all hell, wasn't retail, hobby only, has a proper amount of parallels that they didn't go absolutely crazy with. Just kept it traditional for the most part. It just gets lost in the shuffle.

Elite was my favorite basketball product released this year.

Which speaks volumes.

[Archangel1775]

I felt like breaking Select basketball blasters that someone had on FB Marketplace. They were listed at $85. I offered $750 for 10 of them, local pickup, cash. He actually replied with a laughing emoji.

Who is laughing now fool!

[Arianny_Fan]

They are ruining their products cause they are out come 2025.

[volblorx8634]

Originally Posted by Kobe101

I get your point but there are also collectors who like the chase of something that is some what rare or scarce.

I am not an investor or a flipper but I do want my cards to have a chance at holding value and hopefully appreciating.

I collect Panini case hits and I don't even go after the case hits from the last two years because even those seem to always be available.

I understand your perspective, although I think the chase of something rare and having cards that maintain value are mutually exclusive things. I'm a Kings collector...even most of the rare stuff I have doesn't have much value.

The thing is though, does lack of rarity or scarcity make a card "junk"? You might argue so because you value rarity more than I do. I got a Jahmi'us Ramsey Premier Silver RC in a Kings lot and was surprised at how nice the card looked. There's probably thousands out there and it already is worth a couple bucks shipped, if that, but I think it's a good looking card with a good photo and the shine really pops. PC cards for dirt cheap that look really good? Very un-junk like to me personally.

At the end of the day, no matter what cards we're talking about, they're all pieces of cardboard containing pictures of sweaty, grown men. They're all inherently junk to most people.

[Anklebreaker]

Only thing worth it from this product is #, autos, zebras, and tigers parallel
. Everything else is garbage and overprinted.

[ThatGuyPal]

I remember when Select looked the exact same but still had value and it was everyone’s fav set, a lot even ranked it over Prizm. The good old days

[regularp]

Damn, a PSA 10 2019 Courtside Silver of Curry just went for $900. That makes me feel pretty good about this year's overprinting not affecting previous years.

[imbluestreak23]

My outlook on sports cards has hit an all time low. Very up beat and excited 2016 to ~this spring. But the combination of:
-Overprinting
-No more Topps
-Returns skyrocketing due to a$$hat bit**es not following through on transactions
-Being at the mercy of PSA's prices for 2022

Have all been very deflating. Just caught up on running my numbers for 2021. Woof, turrible year so far.

[bkcardcollector]

everything is junk, especially the hawnks and knicks.

[k13]

90's is all overproduced junk yet people love it and think it is so great that "hits" are so tough.

If there's numbered cards and big hits it does not matter how overproduced it is.
Something to chase.

[boxbuster7]

Originally Posted by regularp

Damn, a PSA 10 2019 Courtside Silver of Curry just went for $900. That makes me feel pretty good about this year's overprinting not affecting previous years.

That still seems low TBH.

[k13]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

That still seems low TBH.

10th year base card. Way too high still.
Really a $100 card if not for psa10 suckers.

[rroboo]

Originally Posted by k13

10th year base card. Way too high still.
Really a $100 card if not for psa10 suckers.

I have to agree with you on this one.

[regularp]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

That still seems low TBH.

Either way, it's up. I got mine for around $425 a year ago.

Originally Posted by k13

10th year base card. Way too high still.
Really a $100 card if not for psa10 suckers.

It's not a base card.

[brettmik59]

Originally Posted by k13

90's is all overproduced junk yet people love it and think it is so great that "hits" are so tough.

If there's numbered cards and big hits it does not matter how overproduced it is.
Something to chase.

With 90s you know what the chase cards are... credentials, rubies, precious metal, refractors (1 kind, not 50 colors), maybe a couple rare inserts per product. Nowadays, what is the chase card, is it the purple panda hippo disco or the orange orangutan tiger's tits, or maybe it's the green blue purple red nebula, or maybe the orange blue purple red nebula? It's been said by others but the volume of parallels dilutes everything. You could have 1 trillion 1 of 1s. Are they really rare at that point?

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by brettmik59

With 90s you know what the chase cards are... credentials, rubies, precious metal, refractors (1 kind, not 50 colors), maybe a couple rare inserts per product. Nowadays, what is the chase card, is it the purple panda hippo disco or the orange orangutan tiger's tits, or maybe it's the green blue purple red nebula, or maybe the orange blue purple red nebula? It's been said by others but the volume of parallels dilutes everything. You could have 1 trillion 1 of 1s. Are they really rare at that point?

You have significantly more individuals (whether they be collectors/flippers in the hobby than before.

So yes, you need more products/parallels. Back then, only some cared about cards. Now it’s significantly more mainstream and many care about cards.

Yes, the 1/1s are still rare….

[k13]

Originally Posted by brettmik59

With 90s you know what the chase cards are... credentials, rubies, precious metal, refractors (1 kind, not 50 colors), maybe a couple rare inserts per product. Nowadays, what is the chase card, is it the purple panda hippo disco or the orange orangutan tiger's tits, or maybe it's the green blue purple red nebula, or maybe the orange blue purple red nebula? It's been said by others but the volume of parallels dilutes everything. You could have 1 trillion 1 of 1s. Are they really rare at that point?

Basically low numbered cards of top rookies.
That's it.