2023 MiLB Top Prospect lists

[yanksfan1]

Remember the draft pick incentives with players on this list and MLB.com list if they accrue a full year of service, are on opening day roster and go on to certain finishes in awards voting. Mariners got an extra draft pick this year because of JRod.

[rwperu34]

Originally Posted by yanksfan1

Remember the draft pick incentives with players on this list and MLB.com list if they accrue a full year of service, are on opening day roster and go on to certain finishes in awards voting. Mariners got an extra draft pick this year because of JRod.

Yep. And Adley got the full year of service because of his ROY standing

[rwperu34]

Originally Posted by daeve

I got him at #1. A bat that is this good already and can project for even more is rare - throw in that he can possibly give you that bat while giving you defensive value at catcher and it's too much. I can see arguments for a couple others over him but I think 9 is too low.

I just checked and he's at #5 on my list....smack dab in the middle

[callou2131]

Surprised James Triantos fell off. He was player of the month in september and had a decent year. Just wish he would sign his bowman redemptions.

[RandyB]

Andrew Painter should be #1. Milb pitcher of the year and looks like the Phillies will have him on the opening day roster at age 19. 6 ft 7 lights out starter.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by RandyB

Andrew Painter should be #1. Milb pitcher of the year and looks like the Phillies will have him on the opening day roster at age 19. 6 ft 7 lights out starter.

I'd be shocked if they do that. Only 100ip last year with only 38 above A ball and none in AAA. The new rules make it more likely pos players get called up, but I still expect teams to baby starters. More likely than manage his innings and bring him up in 2nd half. If you're looking at going deep in the playoffs last thing you want is a rookie starter breaking camp with the big league team. He prob has 150ip max this year.

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[RandyB]

Originally Posted by JRX

I'd be shocked if they do that. Only 100ip last year with only 38 above A ball and none in AAA. The new rules make it more likely pos players get called up, but I still expect teams to baby starters. More likely than manage his innings and bring him up in 2nd half. If you're looking at going deep in the playoffs last thing you want is a rookie starter breaking camp with the big league team. He prob has 150ip max this year.

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Knowing the Phillies you're probably right about them stalling his call up. But if he pitches unbelievably well in spring training I really don't see how putting him on the roster hurts the team. They could make him the 5th starter since they have backups to put in to rest him here and there and manage his innings. From everything I've read his knowledge and feel for the game are exceptional for his age. He has 3 plus pitches and a 4th that is close. But either way he will be a fun one to watch and deserves the #1 spot on the top 100 list imho.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by RandyB

Knowing the Phillies you're probably right about them stalling his call up. But if he pitches unbelievably well in spring training I really don't see how putting him on the roster hurts the team. They could make him the 5th starter since they have backups to put in to rest him here and there and manage his innings. From everything I've read his knowledge and feel for the game are exceptional for his age. He has 3 plus pitches and a 4th that is close. But either way he will be a fun one to watch and deserves the #1 spot on the top 100 list imho.

Its not that it would hurt the team its more if he only has 150 inning this year (my assumption) and he is that good, you'd rather have him around for the postseason. Its really the same situation as DeGrom, Scherzer, Verlander etc If you're a playoff caliber team you want them healthy and with enough innings left in their arm for October. Only 8 pitchers threw 200+ and only 62 threw 150. That's only a little over 2 per team. For a guy like Painter he's probably going to be capped at 150 including the post season.

[daeve]

MLB Pipeline top 100 drops tonight. Spent about 6-ish hours working on my list yesterday. Still got a lot of work to do - I try to get eyes on every one of my top ~200. Will then whittle it down to top 150. My top 25 is pretty set though - barring any late-breaking + interesting info dropping.

[Funkster]

Right or wrong, it’s unlikely a pitcher will be the number one prospect on most of the big evaluator lists.


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[daeve]

Here's a little preview of my top 150 - I don't think much will change with the list up to this point [top 80], maybe this will spurn a little discussion as we wait for the mlb pipeline list dropping tonight as well. For reference, I've been doing these for quite a while, sort of a fun hobby when the card hobby is lacking excitement for me.

Here's an old one from 2017 if you'd like to read about my approach as I haven't changed it, RIP to the old J Sickels blog.

https://www.minorleagueball.com/2017...pects-for-2017


1. Francisco Alvarez
2. Jackson Chourio
3. Corbin Carroll
4. Jordan Walker
5. Druw Jones
6. Gunnar Henderson
7. Eury Perez
8. Andrew Painter
9. Elly de la Cruz
10. Grayson Rodriguez
11. Anthony Volpe
12. James Wood
13. Marcelo Mayer
14. Termarr Johnson
15. Daniel Espino
16. Jordan Lawlar
17. Brett Baty
18. Jackson Holliday
19. Kyle Harrison
20. Bobby Miller
21. Pete Crow-Armstrong
22. Ezequiel Tovar
23. Diego Cartaya
24. Hunter Brown
25. Noelvi Marte
26. Gabriel Moreno
27. Jackson Merrill
28. Josh Jung
29. Sal Frelick
30. Ricky Tiedemann
31. Miguel Vargas
32. Henry Davis
33. Mick Abel
34. Robert Hassell
35. Marco Luciano
36. Dylan Lesko
37. Harry Ford
38. Evan Carter
39. Endy Rodriguez
40. Logan O'Hoppe
41. Taj Bradley
42. Tyler Soderstrom
43. DL Hall
44. Zac Veen
45. Brandon Pfaadt
46. Masyn Winn
47. Jasson Dominguez
48. Elijah Green
49. Logan Allen
50. Curtis Mead
51. Kevin Parada
52. Max Meyer
53. Junior Caminero
54. Ken Waldichuk
55. Colson Montgomery
56. Alex Ramirez
57. Dalton Rushing
58. Kevin Alcantara
59. Colton Cowser
60. Brennen Davis
61. Cam Collier
62. Gavin Stone
63. Brooks Lee
64. Esteury Ruiz
65. Oswald Peraza
66. Brice Turang
67. Gavin Cross
68. Bryan Ramos
69. Reese Olson
70. Owen White
71. Bo Naylor
72. Gordon Graceffo
73. Zach Neto
74. Ronny Mauricio
75. Cade Cavalli
76. Drey Jameson
77. Miguel Bleis
78. Maikel Garcia
79. Shane Baz
80. Triston Casas

[BigSlim16]

Originally Posted by daeve

Here's a little preview of my top 150 - I don't think much will change with the list up to this point [top 80], maybe this will spurn a little discussion as we wait for the mlb pipeline list dropping tonight as well. For reference, I've been doing these for quite a while, sort of a fun hobby when the card hobby is lacking excitement for me.

Here's an old one from 2017 if you'd like to read about my approach as I haven't changed it, RIP to the old J Sickels blog.

https://www.minorleagueball.com/2017...pects-for-2017


1. Francisco Alvarez
2. Jackson Chourio
3. Corbin Carroll
4. Jordan Walker
5. Druw Jones
6. Gunnar Henderson
7. Eury Perez
8. Andrew Painter
9. Elly de la Cruz
10. Grayson Rodriguez
11. Anthony Volpe
12. James Wood
13. Marcelo Mayer
14. Termarr Johnson
15. Daniel Espino
16. Jordan Lawlar
17. Brett Baty
18. Jackson Holliday
19. Kyle Harrison
20. Bobby Miller
21. Pete Crow-Armstrong
22. Ezequiel Tovar
23. Diego Cartaya
24. Hunter Brown
25. Noelvi Marte
26. Gabriel Moreno
27. Jackson Merrill
28. Josh Jung
29. Sal Frelick
30. Ricky Tiedemann
31. Miguel Vargas
32. Henry Davis
33. Mick Abel
34. Robert Hassell
35. Marco Luciano
36. Dylan Lesko
37. Harry Ford
38. Evan Carter
39. Endy Rodriguez
40. Logan O'Hoppe
41. Taj Bradley
42. Tyler Soderstrom
43. DL Hall
44. Zac Veen
45. Brandon Pfaadt
46. Masyn Winn
47. Jasson Dominguez
48. Elijah Green
49. Logan Allen
50. Curtis Mead
51. Kevin Parada
52. Max Meyer
53. Junior Caminero
54. Ken Waldichuk
55. Colson Montgomery
56. Alex Ramirez
57. Dalton Rushing
58. Kevin Alcantara
59. Colton Cowser
60. Brennen Davis
61. Cam Collier
62. Gavin Stone
63. Brooks Lee
64. Esteury Ruiz
65. Oswald Peraza
66. Brice Turang
67. Gavin Cross
68. Bryan Ramos
69. Reese Olson
70. Owen White
71. Bo Naylor
72. Gordon Graceffo
73. Zach Neto
74. Ronny Mauricio
75. Cade Cavalli
76. Drey Jameson
77. Miguel Bleis
78. Maikel Garcia
79. Shane Baz
80. Triston Casas

Overall I think this is really solid. Druw Jones over Gunnar is a hot take, but I respect the boldness. One omission I noticed was Kyle Manzardo

[daeve]

Originally Posted by BigSlim16

Overall I think this is really solid. Druw Jones over Gunnar is a hot take, but I respect the boldness. One omission I noticed was Kyle Manzardo

Thanks! I struggle finding anything to nitpick with Druw's profile - it's insane, the whole package. He did have surgery, but it was on his non-throwing arm, so hard to even dock him for that. I guess he does have the benefit of not seeing any pro competition yet, so with that he can't have any weaknesses yet. I'm sure he will, but again, tremendous overall tools package.

With Gunnar I question how he hits vs LHP and his high GB rate. Manzardo is in the next wave, I mostly have questions with his subpar Exit Velocities, and I generally rate 1B lower due to having to be so good with the bat to have value.

[daeve]

Here's mlb.com's list

https://www.mlb.com/news/top-100-pro...preseason-2023

1. Gunnar Henderson, 3B/SS, BAL
2. Corbin Carroll, OF, ARI
3. Francisco Álvarez, C, NYM
4. Jordan Walker, OF/3B, STL
5. Anthony Volpe, SS, NYY
6. Andrew Painter, RHP, PHI
7. Grayson Rodriguez, RHP, BAL
8. Jackson Chourio, OF, MIL
9. Marcelo Mayer, SS, BOS
10. Elly De La Cruz, SS/3B, CIN
11. Jordan Lawlar, SS, ARI
12. Jackson Holliday, SS, BAL
13. Eury Pérez, RHP, MIA
14. Diego Cartaya, C, LAD
15. Druw Jones, OF, ARI
16. Daniel Espino, RHP, CLE
17. James Wood, OF, WSH
18. Kyle Harrison, LHP, SF
19. Jackson Merrill, SS, SD
20. Taj Bradley, RHP, TB
21. Brett Baty, 3B/OF, NYM
22. Marco Luciano, SS, SF
23. Triston Casas, 1B, BOS
24. Bobby Miller, RHP, LAD
25. Ezequiel Tovar, SS, COL
26. Termarr Johnson, 2B, PIT
27. Zac Veen, OF, COL
28. Pete Crow-Armstrong, OF, CHC
29. Noelvi Marte, SS, CIN
30. Sal Frelick, OF, MIL
31. Brooks Lee, SS, MIN
32. Ricky Tiedemann, LHP, TOR
33. Curtis Mead, 3B/2B, TB
34. Josh Jung, 3B, TEX
35. Robert Hassell III, OF, WSH
36. Kevin Parada, C, NYM
37. Miguel Vargas, 3B/OF/1B, LAD
38. Colson Montgomery, SS, CWS
39. Tyler Soderstrom, 1B/C, OAK
40. Colton Cowser, OF, BAL
41. Evan Carter, OF, TEX
42. Gavin Williams, RHP, CLE
43. Hunter Brown, RHP, HOU
44. Edwin Arroyo, SS, CIN
45. Royce Lewis, SS, MIN
46. Elijah Green, OF, WSH
47. Jasson Domínguez, OF, NYY
48. Mick Abel, RHP, PHI
49. Harry Ford, C, SEA
50. Masyn Winn, SS, STL

51. George Valera, OF, CLE
52. Oswald Peraza, SS/2B, NYY
53. Logan O'Hoppe, C, LAA
54. Michael Busch, 2B/OF, LAD
55. Endy Rodriguez, C/2B/OF, PIT
56. Gavin Stone, RHP, LAD
57. Henry Davis, C, PIT
58. Cade Cavalli, RHP, WSH
59. Brandon Pfaadt, RHP, ARI
60. Quinn Priester, RHP, PIT
61. Jacob Berry, 3B, MIA
62. Gavin Cross, OF, KC
63. Jackson Jobe, RHP, DET
64. Bo Naylor, C, CLE
65. Tanner Bibee, RHP, CLE
66. Owen White, RHP, TEX
67. Max Meyer, RHP, MIA
68. Adael Amador, SS, COL
69. Cam Collier, 3B, CIN
70. Ryan Pepiot, RHP, LAD
71. Luisangel Acuña, SS/2B, TEX
72. Carson Williams, SS, TB
73. Kyle Manzardo, 1B, TB
74. Jordan Westburg, INF, BAL
75. Brayan Rocchio, SS/2B, CLE
76. Ken Waldichuk, LHP, OAK
77. Tink Hence, RHP, STL
78. Jack Leiter, RHP, TEX
79. Gordon Graceffo, RHP, STL
80. Heston Kjerstad, OF, BAL
81. Andy Pages, OF, LAD
82. Chase DeLauter, OF, CLE
83. Jace Jung, 2B, DET
84. Drew Romo, C, COL
85. Oscar Colas, OF, CWS
86. Ceddanne Rafaela, OF/SS, BOS
87. Kevin Alcantara, OF, CHC
88. Emmanuel Rodriguez, OF, MIN
89. Zach Neto, SS, LAA
90. Joey Wiemer, OF, MIL
91. Alec Burleson, OF, STL
92. Brennen Davis, OF, CHC
93. Miguel Bleis, OF, BOS
94. Brock Porter, RHP, TEX
95. Wilmer Flores, RHP, DET
96. Alex Ramirez, OF, NYM
97. DL Hall, LHP, BAL
98. Bryce Miller, RHP, SEA
99. Joey Ortiz, SS/2B, BAL
100. Dylan Lesko, RHP, SD

[Midi]

Casas at 80 breaks my heart. Not very high on him?Daeve?

[swiftojr]

Fangraphs doesn’t even have Luis Rodriguez in their top 51 dodgers prospects…what’s the deal he’s in EVERY product. I’m so confused…?

[rwperu34]

Originally Posted by Midi

Casas at 80 breaks my heart. Not very high on him?Daeve?

I'm in that ballpark on Casas. I've got him as a Grade B, which would typically be in the back half or just outside of the top 100. Among position prospects (I don't bother with pitchers) I've got 67 Grade B or better, not counting any draft picks. Plus I petered out towards the end and may have missed a few in the low minors. There were 46 position players that I graded better than Casas. Figure another 35-50 pitchers, and I'd have him in the 80 to 100 range.

As daeve said it is very difficult to rank as a 1b. I've only got 5 on my list and one of those is Marco Luciano. Another is a fringy catcher type. The only pure 1b I've got ahead of Casas is Manzardo, but I am way higher on him than daeve.

[rwperu34]

Originally Posted by daeve

Here's a little preview of my top 150 - I don't think much will change with the list up to this point [top 80], maybe this will spurn a little discussion as we wait for the mlb pipeline list dropping tonight as well. For reference, I've been doing these for quite a while, sort of a fun hobby when the card hobby is lacking excitement for me.

Here's an old one from 2017 if you'd like to read about my approach as I haven't changed it, RIP to the old J Sickels blog.

https://www.minorleagueball.com/2017...pects-for-2017


1. Francisco Alvarez
2. Jackson Chourio
3. Corbin Carroll
4. Jordan Walker
6. Gunnar Henderson
22. Ezequiel Tovar

Is there any site out there that is even in the ballpark for quality of discussion as the old John Sickles site?

Just for fun, here are my top six (A/A-) or better.

1) Jordan Walker
2) Corbin Carroll
3) Ezekiel Tovar
4) Gunnar Henderson
5) Francisco Alvarez
6) Jackson Chourio

[DaBears1985]

I think Volpe is gonna be the guy. Big market, can hit for average and power, local kid, future fan favorite, premium position

[Chris Lyle]

Glad to see the Guardians well represented in the top 100 and they have some guys right behind this group that could be just as good.

[PeteD]

28. Josh Jung

Was impressed by him against the Jays...my sleeper.

[clsports]

Painter at #6!

Hope to see him and Abel this spring and hopefully on the Phils starting rotation.

[tobytyler]

Emmanuel Rodriguez way down at #88 on MLB. Com list, that missed time pushed him down

[daeve]

Originally Posted by rwperu34

I'm in that ballpark on Casas. I've got him as a Grade B, which would typically be in the back half or just outside of the top 100. Among position prospects (I don't bother with pitchers) I've got 67 Grade B or better, not counting any draft picks. Plus I petered out towards the end and may have missed a few in the low minors. There were 46 position players that I graded better than Casas. Figure another 35-50 pitchers, and I'd have him in the 80 to 100 range.

As daeve said it is very difficult to rank as a 1b. I've only got 5 on my list and one of those is Marco Luciano. Another is a fringy catcher type. The only pure 1b I've got ahead of Casas is Manzardo, but I am way higher on him than daeve.

Yep - plus his body was already going backwards. Though reportedly he's shed 15-20 lbs this offseason, so we'll see if it sticks.

Looking back at my '17 list, the 1B on it were Bellinger, J Bell, Dom Smith, AJ Reed, Matt Theiss, and Rowdy in order [within top 115]. With Belly as the only one in the top 50. I think many see bigger stats and assume it's easier to predict a bopping 1B bat, but the reality is they have just as much, if not more attrition as any other position. Because if you struggle to hit at that position, there's nowhere else to go.

If you notice the comments I even had someone complaining about how I left Bobby Bradley off the list - anyone remember him? I only do because I was much lower on him than consensus.

[daeve]

Originally Posted by rwperu34

Is there any site out there that is even in the ballpark for quality of discussion as the old John Sickles site?

Just for fun, here are my top six (A/A-) or better.

1) Jordan Walker
2) Corbin Carroll
3) Ezekiel Tovar
4) Gunnar Henderson
5) Francisco Alvarez
6) Jackson Chourio

If there is I haven't found it.

Bold on Tovar, I like it. I was not on him early, I admit - he's been a guy who's out-paced my idea of what he could be.