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Old 09-30-2023, 12:46 PM   #51
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Even if this is nothing but a marketing ploy, not sure why so many find it "disgusting." If Topps placed redemptions in the product that you could redeem for large amounts of cash in an effort to sell more product, would you still find it disgusting? It's marketing. Why does that bother people?
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Old 09-30-2023, 01:37 PM   #52
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Maybe not disgusting so much as a culmination of marketing gimmicks. Frozenfractors, Tacofractors, Sonicfractors, Logofractors, Gilded, Sapphire, SP Rookies, a bazillion parallels, and now seemingly the ultimate chase card 1/1 being duplicated at the very base level released or not… gimmicks and marketing schemes are a good thing most of the time, when collectors know what to expect. A 1/1 implies one of a kind. That no longer is the standard.
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Old 09-30-2023, 01:50 PM   #53
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Maybe not disgusting so much as a culmination of marketing gimmicks. Frozenfractors, Tacofractors, Sonicfractors, Logofractors, Gilded, Sapphire, SP Rookies, a bazillion parallels, and now seemingly the ultimate chase card 1/1 being duplicated at the very base level released or not… gimmicks and marketing schemes are a good thing most of the time, when collectors know what to expect. A 1/1 implies one of a kind. That no longer is the standard.
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Old 09-30-2023, 01:55 PM   #54
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Remember when Topps used to say it didn’t assign any value to its cards over and over again in an attempt to indemnify itself? Big change here.
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Old 09-30-2023, 01:56 PM   #55
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Maybe not disgusting so much as a culmination of marketing gimmicks. Frozenfractors, Tacofractors, Sonicfractors, Logofractors, Gilded, Sapphire, SP Rookies, a bazillion parallels, and now seemingly the ultimate chase card 1/1 being duplicated at the very base level released or not… gimmicks and marketing schemes are a good thing most of the time, when collectors know what to expect. A 1/1 implies one of a kind. That no longer is the standard.
If you’re finally coming to the realization that hobby sellers aren’t trustworthy and are only self-interested you’ve arrived late to the party.
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Old 09-30-2023, 02:09 PM   #56
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Coincidence that the announcement is the evening before the Hobby Rip Night event?
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Old 09-30-2023, 02:31 PM   #57
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Remember when Topps used to say it didn’t assign any value to its cards over and over again in an attempt to indemnify itself? Big change here.
I do think they’re walking a fine line here. The more promotions they do like this, the harder it is to claim that wax is not primarily a gambling product. The valuations on these superfractors being so out of whack with the market makes it even worse.
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Old 09-30-2023, 02:42 PM   #58
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I do think they’re walking a fine line here. The more promotions they do like this, the harder it is to claim that wax is not primarily a gambling product. The valuations on these superfractors being so out of whack with the market makes it even worse.
They are not saying what cards are worth, they are buying cards back for a price for certain cards they want or need back....
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Old 09-30-2023, 02:44 PM   #59
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Fanatics should just make a Topps blank product.

You simply get 12 blank white cards per pack, and any “colored” cards correlate to a prize win for a pre specified monetary value.
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Old 09-30-2023, 03:06 PM   #60
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So what would you do?

https://twitter.com/BerryNiceCards/s...81799120118134
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Old 09-30-2023, 03:17 PM   #61
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Sorry should not have posted such negative comments.

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Old 09-30-2023, 03:20 PM   #62
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Even if this is nothing but a marketing ploy, not sure why so many find it "disgusting." If Topps placed redemptions in the product that you could redeem for large amounts of cash in an effort to sell more product, would you still find it disgusting? It's marketing. Why does that bother people?
Because it ends in 5 months and in 5 months you are still gonna have issue of double print runs. If cash redemptions expire and get pulled later who cares. It’s not the same.

If it was indefinite I’d say it’s a pretty cool gimmick and they did a good job of fixing their error
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Old 09-30-2023, 03:38 PM   #63
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They are not saying what cards are worth, they are buying cards back for a price for certain cards they want or need back....
Doesn’t make any difference at all, Topps is assigning value any way you look at it. This is eventually going to hit them and flippers in the a$$.
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Old 09-30-2023, 03:40 PM   #64
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They are not saying what cards are worth, they are buying cards back for a price for certain cards they want or need back....


They are offering different amounts for different cards. Thats different values.
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Old 09-30-2023, 03:43 PM   #66
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Not sure why people would be shocked, particularly with people involved in flipping Bowman cards, it’s their purpose.

No matter who owns the card, the owner is going to send to Topps…so don’t feel bad for any of these people.
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Old 09-30-2023, 03:44 PM   #67
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Explain how they know exactly which cards were duplicated, photos of them, a webpage nicely ready to go and values if not on purpose?

Also anyone notice real breaks suddenly close their Facebook page after probably some comments and backlash from them raising pyp prices?
They determined it was exactly one printing sheet that was duplicated, it was actually duplicated on purpose so they could swap out for any quality issues but the duplicates were otherwise never intended to go into production. They know exactly what cards are on the printing sheets because they create the printing sheets. They also naturally have digital images of every card they create. Fanatics reached out to us within minutes of the first duplicate card being discovered via social media and have been working on a solution for the past roughly 10 days, plenty of time to pull together a website and buyback process.

We didn't close our page, the break is filling great. You were just removed so you don't have to be bothered by bums. But thanks for your concern.

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Old 09-30-2023, 03:45 PM   #68
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Not sure why people would be shocked, particularly with people involved in flipping Bowman cards, it’s their purpose.

No matter who owns the card, the owner is going to send to Topps…so don’t feel bad for any of these people.
I mean, I feel bad for the guy who legitimately paid 2 grand for a card and is now getting screwed out of making a hell of a lot more?
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Old 09-30-2023, 03:49 PM   #69
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We didn't close our page, the break is filling great. You were just removed so you don't have to be bothered by bums. But thanks for your concern.
Oh, I know it’s too late but am truly sorry for my hasty and distasteful comments recently. I wish I would not have let stressful life events make me make such poor comments and lose out on a group and hobby I enjoy or should say enjoyed and still want to.
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Old 09-30-2023, 04:06 PM   #70
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They are not saying what cards are worth, they are buying cards back for a price for certain cards they want or need back....
Explain how worth of a baseball card is determined.
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Old 09-30-2023, 04:10 PM   #71
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Fanatics knows the issue with the Arias card and if it's true and the seller did this, they should not be allowed to send back in. Ebay should also delete the seller's account. Of course, none of this will happen and people will forget about this by Wednesday so scumbags can continue to be scumbags.
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Old 09-30-2023, 04:22 PM   #72
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Maybe the Arias Superfractor would fail authentication because it isn't really a 1/1...
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Old 09-30-2023, 04:27 PM   #73
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Who’s the first eBay seller that quotes the Topps price as market price?
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Old 09-30-2023, 04:40 PM   #74
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Love everyone always complaining about Panini and you have Topps pulling this kind of stuff. They both aren't great.
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Old 09-30-2023, 04:47 PM   #75
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I can’t even imagine that this was done on purpose - not after the 2022 Topps product ( forgot which one now ) that needed silver packs to include the RC’s of Witt, JROD Et al.
Nothing about this sounds like a marketing campaign either - Topps has a monopoly on BBcards ~ they don’t need a publicity stunt to sell more product. Just sounds like ANOTHER QC screw up - nothing more
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