First Buzz: 2023 Topps Diamond Icons baseball cards

[cardozo]

Originally Posted by speedyjg13

Checklist?

https://www.beckett.com/news/2023-to...aseball-cards/

[jplarson]

Originally Posted by whitmm

This you?

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

The other dichotomy is you telling people to buy singles and not worry about the price then have two negs for none payment.

[KhalDrogo]

Houdini ripped a case last night. I just don’t get the appeal of this.

[fenwaykid]

I got in a couple case breaks this week. One immaculate basketball the other diamond icons. Diamond icons is hands down a better value and product. Almost every case of diamond icons hits a combination of top players. Immaculate is full of sticker autos of semi-stars from the 80’s and 90’s. Joining breaks is for total losers at this point (me) as everyone loses money - and it isn’t even close. Not one buyer came out ahead. It’s crazy that people keep going to the well and burning money. But hey, i’ve got nothing else to do.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by fenwaykid

I got in a couple case breaks this week. One immaculate basketball the other diamond icons. Diamond icons is hands down a better value and product. Almost every case of diamond icons hits a combination of top players. Immaculate is full of sticker autos of semi-stars from the 80’s and 90’s. Joining breaks is for total losers at this point (me) as everyone loses money - and it isn’t even close. Not one buyer came out ahead. It’s crazy that people keep going to the well and burning money. But hey, i’ve got nothing else to do.

And you have money to burn. Not a bad thing.

[MotorboatJones]

Originally Posted by fenwaykid

I got in a couple case breaks this week. One immaculate basketball the other diamond icons. Diamond icons is hands down a better value and product. Almost every case of diamond icons hits a combination of top players. Immaculate is full of sticker autos of semi-stars from the 80’s and 90’s. Joining breaks is for total losers at this point (me) as everyone loses money - and it isn’t even close. Not one buyer came out ahead. It’s crazy that people keep going to the well and burning money. But hey, i’ve got nothing else to do.

Definitely true. The only people making money are the breakers. I quit entering breaks of any kind last January and have never looked back. It’s a losing proposition 99.5% of the time. People are better off breaking what they enjoy themselves and buying/collecting singles.

[cardozo]

Originally Posted by fenwaykid

I got in a couple case breaks this week. One immaculate basketball the other diamond icons. Diamond icons is hands down a better value and product. Almost every case of diamond icons hits a combination of top players. Immaculate is full of sticker autos of semi-stars from the 80’s and 90’s. Joining breaks is for total losers at this point (me) as everyone loses money - and it isn’t even close. Not one buyer came out ahead. It’s crazy that people keep going to the well and burning money. But hey, i’ve got nothing else to do.

Immaculate has been a train wreck for years and keeps getting watered down more each passing year.

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by fenwaykid

Diamond icons is hands down a better value and product. Almost every case of diamond icons hits a combination of top players.

Yep, this looks like the best high end break by a whole lot. No one should be complaining about this. People who are complaining are probably people who didn't buy it

[Noles939913]

Originally Posted by BBases31

Everyone complaining about the price but this one actually looks worth it. Just from looking at the ebay listings, these cards are gorgeous and most of the autos are good players, very few duds, and all low numbered. The patches all look great and there are logomans. What more could you ask for?

People complain about the how much Topps prints theses days yet here they put out a set with every single card numbered to 25 or less and people still complain. Of course it's going to be really expensive. Not everyone can afford a Ferrari and not everyone can afford a set with all cards /25 and a monster checklist. That's life

It’s overpriced like everything else. The vast majority of boxes aren’t going to have $4,000 worth of cards in them. It’s just worth not worth to pull an $15 Oswald Peraza auto, a $75 Yordan Alvarez jersey auto, or a $40 auto of the same HOFers Topps puts in every single release.

With that being said I love the product but I’ll happily let the gamblers take a bloodbath on it and buy the singles from them.

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by Noles939913

It’s overpriced like everything else. The vast majority of boxes aren’t going to have $4,000 worth of cards in them.

It's not overpriced. Boxes aren't priced for you to break even.

It’s just worth not worth to pull an $15 Oswald Peraza auto, a $75 Yordan Alvarez jersey auto, or a $40 auto of the same HOFers Topps puts in every single release.

Except the vast majority of the checklist is really good stuff and this isn't like every other release. Every card is numbered to /25 or less

[KhalDrogo]

24 sales total from 2022 Diamond Icons that were $2k+. That includes some cards sold multiple times.

[theshowandme]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

24 sales total from 2022 Diamond Icons that were $2k+. That includes some cards sold multiple times.

Yikes

You could buy a case of this, hit a cut auto of a middle tier name, and still be under water

[Noles939913]

Originally Posted by BBases31

It's not overpriced. Boxes aren't priced for you to break even.



Except the vast majority of the checklist is really good stuff and this isn't like every other release. Every card is numbered to /25 or less

How is it not overpriced when boxes were $1,250 not that long ago? Has the prices on Dale Murphy, Jimmy Rollins, David Wright, etc. autos all jumped as dramatically in that time period to justify the price and I’m simply unaware? Like I said I like this product but it’s basically the same thing as DC.

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by Noles939913

How is it not overpriced when boxes were $1,250 not that long ago?

And Cola Cola was a nickel in the 50s. The hobby is more popular now. Higher demand and same supply=much higher prices.

Has the prices on Dale Murphy, Jimmy Rollins, David Wright, etc. autos all jumped as dramatically in that time period to justify the price and I’m simply unaware?

Supply and demand is what you're unaware of

[Noles939913]

Originally Posted by BBases31

And Cola Cola was a nickel in the 50s. The hobby is more popular now. Higher demand and same supply=much higher prices.



Supply and demand is what you're unaware of

You’re obviously all alone on an island like Chuck Noland if you think this is even somewhat reasonably priced.

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by Noles939913

You’re obviously all alone on an island like Chuck Noland if you think this is even somewhat reasonably priced.

You are stuck in 2018 and will stay there forever if you think this isn't reasonably priced

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by BBases31

You are stuck in 2018 and will stay there forever if you think this isn't reasonably priced

Bro really thinks that just because every card is #ed to 25 or less that it's automatically a good and reasonably priced product at any price.

You need to go back to getting embarrassed in the Purdy thread

[Noles939913]

Originally Posted by BBases31

You are stuck in 2018 and will stay there forever if you think this isn't reasonably priced

Once again you are the only one with that opinion it appears. Is anyone besides breakers breaking this?

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by Noles939913

Once again you are the only one with that opinion it appears. Is anyone besides breakers breaking this?

There's about 5 people in this thread, same usual characters who complain about the price of every release. Of course there are

[Noles939913]

Originally Posted by whitmm

Bro really thinks that just because every card is #ed to 25 or less that it's automatically a good and reasonably priced product at any price.

You need to go back to getting embarrassed in the Purdy thread

The cut signature checklist is also a joke. Example: Bob Feller. You can find a nice on card auto of him on eBay for $30. An authenticated signed 8x10 for even less. Why would anyone want a chopped up signed 8x10 that’s been crudely put into a card?

[Noles939913]

Originally Posted by whitmm

Bro really thinks that just because every card is #ed to 25 or less that it's automatically a good and reasonably priced product at any price.

You need to go back to getting embarrassed in the Purdy thread

I can’t imagine his take on Dynasty. Every card is #’d /10 or less!!! Nevermind there are 8 different image variations and a /5 parallel and a /1 parallel of each one. Imagine laying down $1,000 on that one and getting a $40 Tim Anderson.

[Chris P]

Originally Posted by Noles939913

I can’t imagine his take on Dynasty. Every card is #’d /10 or less!!! Nevermind there are 8 different image variations and a /5 parallel and a /1 parallel of each one. Imagine laying down $1,000 on that one and getting a $40 Tim Anderson.

He's just doing his usual schtick that he does everywhere. I doubt he believes what he even types, he just wants reactions and going against the grain gives him that

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by Noles939913

I can’t imagine his take on Dynasty. Every card is #’d /10 or less!!! Nevermind there are 8 different image variations and a /5 parallel and a /1 parallel of each one. Imagine laying down $1,000 on that one and getting a $40 Tim Anderson.

You must be new to modern baseball and to ripping wax, welcome!

Originally Posted by Chris P

He's just doing his usual schtick that he does everywhere. I doubt he believes what he even types, he just wants reactions and going against the grain gives him that

I've been going against the grain in the Brock Purdy thread for 4 months by cheering on Brock Purdy

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by Chris P

He's just doing his usual schtick that he does everywhere. I doubt he believes what he even types, he just wants reactions and going against the grain gives him that

I'm surprised he hasn't made "the call" on this. Not that he's going to actually buy it, just like he didn't actually buy any Purdy cards. I'm sure he will be here talking about how many people are dm'ing him thanking him for recommending this product

[cholodolo]

Originally Posted by DaryanLenz

Yeah, the two takes aren’t mutually exclusive and while it might be a paradox, both referenced posts are simultaneously accurate. I guess I’m not certain what you are trying to draw as a dichotomy between the two.

How embarrassing.