Eagles vs Chiefs Superbowl

[asujbl]

Going to be some millionaires in this thread if they bet the Eagles alternate spread at some of these wild predictions

I’m excited to see the bets posted

[SaveMeTheGum]

Zero chance the Chiefs lose. It's funny how the last dynasty was hated by the NFL, but the new one is given all the help in the world.

For the record, I've always rooted for greatness, so I want to see Mahomes succeed and 3-peat.

[Asian62150]

Originally Posted by asujbl

Going to be some millionaires in this thread if they bet the Eagles alternate spread at some of these wild predictions

I’m excited to see the bets posted

A put a little on the Eagles ML. If they win, great. I get a free dinner.

If the Chiefs win, I have a couple of Mahomes RCs so yay.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by Asian62150

A put a little on the Eagles ML. If they win, great. I get a free dinner.

If the Chiefs win, I have a couple of Mahomes RCs so yay.

ML is totally fine. That makes sense

Some of these guys predictions? If you think Philly wins by 10-14?

The alternate spread pays -800 to -2000

Time to put some money up (yes being a millionaire is facetious)

[Fenway55]

Originally Posted by Rozarks

"Baby" = personal. Lol.

Yes, "grow up baby" is a personal attack. In this particular case, it was completely uncalled for.

Originally Posted by Rozarks

It is sad you and so many others resort to excuses that did NOT determine the result of the game...at all. Buffalo, just like Houston last week, had plenty chances to go get a victory, but simply couldn't execute.

What is even more pathetic are the people who cannot admit that as we get deep into the playoffs, we are often going to have games between teams so close to each other that all it takes is a bad call or two to completely shift the outcome of the game.

[f2tornado]

Eagles have the better D and ground game which would historically win this game. I just get that feeling they're going to fold like a cheap tent. I hope I'm wrong.

[chompie99]

Originally Posted by Fenway55

Anyone but me notice how Chiefs fans are getting even more and more defensive over this subject, combined with the requisite personal attacks?

First of all, if any of my posts on this subject felt like a personal attack on you, I apologize. It wasn’t my intent.

I think Chief fans like me are tired of the constant drone of these “but the refs” claims because it feels like the Chiefs get little to no credit for being a potential historic team from these folks. It’s played and tired when all they have accomplished is pushed off by these folks. It’s so completely absurd and ludicrous to think that the refs deliberately favor any team, much less the Chiefs. Could they do better? Of course. That’s why there are rule changes and refs are graded every year. There are always going to be controversial calls. It’s the nature of the game and all the technology available has made all but the most obvious calls worse imo. And it’s simpler to make calls in slow motion than game speed. I hope that replay assist will end up being helpful.

Drue Tranquil tweeted last night that “the refs” folks could “go kick rocks” so even the players are tired of it.

This run is only approaching about half of the Patriots run at best. So not sure why several Patriots fans are getting worked up that I know.

And social media posts that tout cheating, rigging, controversy etc. engage the algorithm more.

I’m looking forward to the game despite all of this. Should be a great one just like last night.

[Fenway55]

Originally Posted by chompie99

First of all, if any of my posts on this subject felt like a personal attack on you, I apologize. It wasn’t my intent.

I have never felt that way from any of your posts. I also hope not to make others feel that way from my posts.

Originally Posted by chompie99

I think Chief fans like me are tired of the constant drone of these “but the refs” claims because it feels like the Chiefs get little to no credit for being a potential historic team from these folks. It’s played and tired when all they have accomplished is pushed off by these folks. It’s so completely absurd and ludicrous to think that the refs deliberately favor any team, much less the Chiefs. Could they do better? Of course. That’s why there are rule changes and refs are graded every year. There are always going to be controversial calls. It’s the nature of the game and all the technology available has made all but the most obvious calls worse imo. And it’s simpler to make calls in slow motion than game speed. I hope that replay assist will end up being helpful.

I think there will regularly be a subconscious bias to favor the better team/player. Jordan was notorious for "getting all the calls" but that also had to do with the fact that he was the best player in basketball.

Listening to people like me complain is the price KC is going to have to pay.

Originally Posted by chompie99

I’m looking forward to the game despite all of this. Should be a great one just like last night.

I agree.

[Jaysabz]

Originally Posted by chompie99

First of all, if any of my posts on this subject felt like a personal attack on you, I apologize. It wasn’t my intent.

I think Chief fans like me are tired of the constant drone of these “but the refs” claims because it feels like the Chiefs get little to no credit for being a potential historic team from these folks. It’s played and tired when all they have accomplished is pushed off by these folks. It’s so completely absurd and ludicrous to think that the refs deliberately favor any team, much less the Chiefs. Could they do better? Of course. That’s why there are rule changes and refs are graded every year. There are always going to be controversial calls. It’s the nature of the game and all the technology available has made all but the most obvious calls worse imo. And it’s simpler to make calls in slow motion than game speed. I hope that replay assist will end up being helpful.

Drue Tranquil tweeted last night that “the refs” folks could “go kick rocks” so even the players are tired of it.

This run is only approaching about half of the Patriots run at best. So not sure why several Patriots fans are getting worked up that I know.

And social media posts that tout cheating, rigging, controversy etc. engage the algorithm more.

I’m looking forward to the game despite all of this. Should be a great one just like last night.

I'm not one who has belittled the Chiefs' accomplishments by saying they are constantly assisted by the refs.

I understand your frustration. I'm an Eagles fan, and have to constantly deal with the "Eagles fans are classless" stereotype. Some are, sure, but I think most fanbases have their problem children.

If you Google "NFL Stadium Altercation 2024" you'll see there's a lot of reports of fights outside SoFi and Allegiant this year, articles fan altercations between Falcons/Saints, KC/Denver, Rams/49ers, Saints/Steelers, Rams/Cowboys, a shooting outside of Ford Field ... but the Eagles fans are all classless and people hate the team for it.

The Eagles have put tons of money into security and trying to prevent these issues, but someone will tell the story about taking their 10-year old to Lincoln Financial Field and sitting up in the cheap section wearing Cowboys gear and be upset when they get verbally assaulted - as if the same wouldn't happen at Jerry's World in the cheap seats if you were wearing an Eagles jersey.

[88horsepower]

Originally Posted by Asian62150

Are you saying the NFL should stipulate that the refs are not allowed to work side jobs?

I'm pretty sure NFL refs make $150K+ so they don't have to get other jobs unless they want to (and yes, most do). But that's pretty good scratch for like 20 days of work.

I'm saying the NFL should have full time officials who are compensated appropriately for being full time so they can focus singularly on getting things right. I'm sure the NFL won't need to pass the hat for a worthy cause. They have more than enough money lying around to pay officials to be full time.

[Asian62150]

Originally Posted by 88horsepower

I'm saying the NFL should have full time officials who are compensated appropriately for being full time so they can focus singularly on getting things right. I'm sure the NFL won't need to pass the hat for a worthy cause. They have more than enough money lying around to pay officials to be full time.

How much would that be? Most officials make between $200-250K and work Aug - Dec.

Even if they made $1M/year, Jan - July is a long time to be doing nothing when they could easily do a side hustle or even ref another sport like college basketball.

I get what you're saying but the NFL just doesn't have enough work to give these refs to make it a "full-time" position year round.

[dbpsooner]

Originally Posted by Jaysabz

I'm an Eagles fan, but I also like to think that I am pretty even-keeled, I'm definitely not a crazy delusional fanboy, and I never resort to calling people other names or trolling (except Delta little bit this year, but he deserved every bit of it - I don't know how many times I had to tell him I didn't care about Barkley winning MVP when he'd interrupt a thread on the Eagles game ("hahhaha 7 carries 22 yds yeah mvp ok lol). I would have thrown a shoe at him if I could. Anyway...

The Chiefs and Eagles played in Super Bowl LVII (two years ago) and lost 38-35. With literally seconds left on the clock.

There's no doubt that the Chiefs are winners.

I just look at both teams, and I feel this years' Chiefs team is not as strong as the team from two years ago, whereas this Philadelphia team is much improved from the team that played in the Super Bowl two years ago.

The Chiefs certainly have those intangibles, but there's some magic dust in the air in Philly this year as well. This KC fairy tale has to end at some point, and the Eagles have the players who can get it done.

So that's what my gut is telling me right now, Philly brings it back to Broad Street. We have two weeks to chat about it and analyze it, but that was my feeling after watching both game yesterday.

Anyway, Happy Monday all, back to the grind - two weeks until the Big Game!!

I appreciate your perspective as a Philly fan! I do take issue with the bolded.

I think both defenses are significantly improved from the last Super Bowl meeting. The addition of Barkley will be huge for Philly as they got nothing from the RB position in the last Super Bowl and had to rely entirely on Hurts in the run game. On the flip side, KC is way deeper offensively. Should be a fun game.

Originally Posted by asujbl

Going to be some millionaires in this thread if they bet the Eagles alternate spread at some of these wild predictions

I’m excited to see the bets posted

I will not be betting a side, but I will have a fairly large wager on the under. Currently at 49.5. I have not yet decided if I will break it up into first half and game or what the mix will be. KC is a team that eats a lot of clock on scoring drives and Philly will want to establish the run. The biggest threat to the under will be the explosive plays from Barkley. Those 1 play 70 yard TDs are killer to under bets. But I am banking on prolonged clock eating scoring drives with punts mixed in.

Good luck to anyone else betting on the game!

[chompie99]

Originally Posted by Fenway55

I have never felt that way from any of your posts. I also hope not to make others feel that way from my posts.
I think there will regularly be a subconscious bias to favor the better team/player. Jordan was notorious for "getting all the calls" but that also had to do with the fact that he was the best player in basketball.

Listening to people like me complain is the price KC is going to have to pay.
.

I think these are fair points. I appreciate the input.

[chompie99]

Originally Posted by Jaysabz

I'm not one who has belittled the Chiefs' accomplishments by saying they are constantly assisted by the refs.

I understand your frustration. I'm an Eagles fan, and have to constantly deal with the "Eagles fans are classless" stereotype. Some are, sure, but I think most fanbases have their problem children.

If you Google "NFL Stadium Altercation 2024" you'll see there's a lot of reports of fights outside SoFi and Allegiant this year, articles fan altercations between Falcons/Saints, KC/Denver, Rams/49ers, Saints/Steelers, Rams/Cowboys, a shooting outside of Ford Field ... but the Eagles fans are all classless and people hate the team for it.

The Eagles have put tons of money into security and trying to prevent these issues, but someone will tell the story about taking their 10-year old to Lincoln Financial Field and sitting up in the cheap section wearing Cowboys gear and be upset when they get verbally assaulted - as if the same wouldn't happen at Jerry's World in the cheap seats if you were wearing an Eagles jersey.

Yes, I can see how that might be frustrating for you. I have witnessed fights at Arrowhead (mostly alcohol-fueled) and Padres and Giants fans fighting in San Diego in the middle of a game so all fan bases have their issues as you said.

Hope this Super Bowl is as good as the last KC-Philly tilt. That was a wild one.

[88horsepower]

Originally Posted by 88horsepower

I'm saying the NFL should have full time officials who are compensated appropriately for being full time so they can focus singularly on getting things right. I'm sure the NFL won't need to pass the hat for a worthy cause. They have more than enough money lying around to pay officials to be full time.

Considering the volume of blown calls and botched replays, I think they have plenty to work on in the offseason.

[MJkid67]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

This should be a great game. I like Andy and Spags with two weeks of prep. Always. This is the greatest coaching duo in the history of the league. They have showed time and again they are maximally prepared for every situation. So as long as the Chiefs don’t turn the ball over, they’ll get the W.

Bingo, this is the most cogent analysis on the board.

Of course Mahomes, Mahomes, Mahomes, but this team can beat you in many different ways and are ALWAYS prepared.

[MJkid67]

Originally Posted by gomiamigo

Can't wait for the refs to move a first-down spot back a yard in the 4th Q and cost the Eagles the drive and the game.

KC lineman rips off the Bills' pass rushers helmet after two hands to the face, uncalled. Right before the game-winning FG.

Worthy doesn't catch a pass inside the 5, but they give it to him anyway.

Every game there's so many of these. Every. single. game.

I'm not sure you know how the mechanics of spotting the ball works. Yes, the referee on the far side was walking down the line past the 1st down line, but the referee on the near side saw it differently and has precedent.

[Fenway55]

Originally Posted by MJkid67

I'm not sure you know how the mechanics of spotting the ball works.

With all due respect, it appears you don't either.

Originally Posted by MJkid67

Yes, the referee on the far side was walking down the line past the 1st down line, but the referee on the near side saw it differently and has precedent.

The referee who actually has sight of the ball has (or, I should say, is supposed to have) precedent.

It cannot be denied that the referee to the right side of the Bills' forward motion (the far side of the TV screen) had better sight of the ball.

[ninjacookies]

Chiefs ML, though may give slight consideration to Philly +5 if there's more line movement leading up to kickoff. Almost a guarantee this ends within a score just like every Chiefs game this year.

o47.5 alt

Biggest $ play on the over. Perfect dome conditions. Both teams proven they can score points and give up points. Inexperienced Commanders still put up 23. Chiefs put up over 30 for the first time all season. Sirianni made it a point to roll out vintage Hurts with the aggressive air attack this last game to send a statement.

Philly's strength plays right into KC's weakness. Massive games for Barkley/Hurts on the ground...ATTD sprinkles for both.

Philly most susceptible against TE's. Ertz had a big game. Expect the same from Kelce, even though public may be scared off his lines due to recency bias.

[kissmaster]

Look....In my Opinion if the NFL wants a team to Win they are going to WIn!!! the NFL and Refs have been deciding games for years. All you hear from the NFL and announcers is how nobody has ever 3Peated before. I belive the game is going to be close but, in the end The NFL and Refs are going to win and give it to the Chiefs

[dlouisb1313]

I hope the Chiefs do not receive one penalty at all and still blowout the Eagles. I hope its zero calls for the Chiefs, and like 10 against them, but still win like 30-17. That'll shut people up finally.

[88horsepower]

Originally Posted by dlouisb1313

I hope the Chiefs do not receive one penalty at all and still blowout the Eagles. I hope its zero calls for the Chiefs, and like 10 against them, but still win like 30-17. That'll shut people up finally.

That would be refreshing.

[IowaCubs1]

Just stopping in to say - Go Chiefs!

Looking forward to a good game!

[Fenway55]

Originally Posted by dlouisb1313

I hope the Chiefs do not receive one penalty at all and still blowout the Eagles. I hope its zero calls for the Chiefs, and like 10 against them, but still win like 30-17. That'll shut people up finally.

Yes, if KC commits 10 penalties to 0 for the Eagles, and KC still wins, I promise I will never talk about biased officiating ever again.

[SleeperCards]

Originally Posted by IowaCubs1

Just stopping in to say - Go Chiefs!

Looking forward to a good game!

Long time, no see! Hope things are going well for you.