"Hobby Good" going in to 2025

[JRX]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

As Altuve, Freeman, and Goldschmidt are winding down their careers, I have been buying a bunch of their rookie cards. They might not be hobby great, but hobby good with a great chance to make the HOF and be hobby good for generations.

They are all locks. Have you been following who they've been putting in?

[ObanMontecristo]

Originally Posted by onenineeightsix

Great list. Think Bryce is in Tier 1 though honestly. His stuff is higher than you think. May be because he’s got fewer autos than he used to, especially compared to the rest of the list save for Mookie. His stuff was cheaper 2018-2021 than any of it is now.

Oh I’m a big Harper/Phillies fan, so he’s definitely in my personal Tier 1, I just think it’s hard to objectively put him above or with any of those first 5 guys (Ohtani, Judge, Witt, Skenes and Soto) in terms of who’s getting the most ‘love’ in the overall hobby right now. I think some injuries over the years have tempered that love for him a little bit. But now that Harper is settled in at 1b, maybe a big year from him changes that…

If I’m putting down my own top-5 PC list, it’s Ohtani, Harper, Vlad Jr., and then probably Elly and Trout.

[ThoseBackPages]

the Skenes thing is beyond me. he hasnt even had TJ yet and is on the Pirates.

what is his ceiling there? Garret Cole?

[SirJamesHook]

I really hope Gunnar has a good season and comes back healthy.
I am a big fan and this is my biggest card of him.

[GabrielCards]

I don't think Ohtani prices have plateaued at all. He is at most at the midway point of his career with a really stong international market. I think his prices continue to steadily rise assuming he keeps producing at his expected level.

[Twalk1975]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

the Skenes thing is beyond me. he hasnt even had TJ yet and is on the Pirates.

what is his ceiling there? Garret Cole?

Some solid promotion by Topps.

There is both a collector and investor element to being hobby good. The investors might not normally touch a pitcher, but there is definitely potential with Skenes. At least in the short term.

My dad can name only four current players, Kershaw, Scherzer, Verlander, and Ohtani. It has become more difficult, but pitchers can absolutely be faces of baseball. It is too bad that the Pirates are unlikely to make the playoffs, because Skenes would be front and center on TV in October.

[Noles939913]

Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

I know I’m a homer, but Jazz gets more hobby love than: Realmuto, Arraez, Chapman, Tovar, and Fried.

Fried’s Topps Chrome rookie autos go for double what little Jazz’s do.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by Noles939913

Fried’s Topps Chrome rookie autos go for double what little Jazz’s do.

Well, little Noles939913, you can spend all the money you want on little Max Fried cards, doesn’t mean he gets more hobby love. Fried also has way less to choose from since over-production really ramped up in 2021. People who want in on Fried get funneled towards just a few cards.

[Noles939913]

Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

Well, little Noles939913, you can spend all the money you want on little Max Fried cards, doesn’t mean he gets more hobby love. Fried also has way less to choose from since over-production really ramped up in 2021. People who want in on Fried get funneled towards just a few cards.

Max Fried has an outside shot at the Hall of Fame and has way more than “a few” prospect and rookie autos. Jazz is a nothing burger. When he inevitably posts another sub .800 OPS season this year expect his cards to fall even further.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by Twalk1975

Some solid promotion by Topps.

There is both a collector and investor element to being hobby good. The investors might not normally touch a pitcher, but there is definitely potential with Skenes. At least in the short term.

My dad can name only four current players, Kershaw, Scherzer, Verlander, and Ohtani. It has become more difficult, but pitchers can absolutely be faces of baseball. It is too bad that the Pirates are unlikely to make the playoffs, because Skenes would be front and center on TV in October.

good call on the Fanatics brainwashing.

Pitchers can be the face of Baseball, but not the hobby. While over the decades there certainly have been some that have, for the most part the hobby does not care about pitchers.

[Bosoxfan5990]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

the Skenes thing is beyond me. he hasnt even had TJ yet and is on the Pirates.

what is his ceiling there? Garret Cole?

Paul Skenes has so much potential. He could be anyone. He could even be Gerrit Cole!

[seanrs1]

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1582746

I see someone is trying to steal my thunder/topic on hobby good I have been doing for the past few years.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by Noles939913

Max Fried has an outside shot at the Hall of Fame and has way more than “a few” prospect and rookie autos. Jazz is a nothing burger. When he inevitably posts another sub .800 OPS season this year expect his cards to fall even further.

The Hall of Fame? The only way Fried or Jazz are getting into the Hall of Fame is to buy a ticket. I’ve never said anything about Jazz getting into the HoF, I’m just hoping for eventual inclusion in Skip’s Hall of Very Good. As far as Fried, if you think a 31 yr old pitcher with 73 wins, 863 Ks, and 23.9 WAR has a shot at the Hall… you’re much optimistic fan of your players than I am. And a “Big Hall” guy too, I would assume.

[Noles939913]

Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

The Hall of Fame? The only way Fried or Jazz are getting into the Hall of Fame is to buy a ticket. I’ve never said anything about Jazz getting into the HoF, I’m just hoping for eventual inclusion in Skip’s Hall of Very Good. As far as Fried, if you think a 31 yr old pitcher with 73 wins, 863 Ks, and 23.9 WAR has a shot at the Hall… you’re much optimistic fan of your players than I am. And a “Big Hall” guy too, I would assume.

I’m not even a fanboy of Fried like you are with Jazz but you did leave out his career 3.07 ERA. Have you seen the players the HOF has been inducting lately? He absolutely has a chance.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

the Skenes thing is beyond me. he hasnt even had TJ yet and is on the Pirates.

what is his ceiling there? Garret Cole?

Cole would love to have the arm talent Skenes has. That's not to say he reaches his potential (he could blow out his arm tomorrow, or not continue to develop as a pitcher), but his ceiling blows Cole's out of the water.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Cole would love to have the arm talent Skenes has. That's not to say he reaches his potential (he could blow out his arm tomorrow, or not continue to develop as a pitcher), but his ceiling blows Cole's out of the water.

i agree. but being on the Pirates is why i said Cole as he came up there.
Steve Carton did everything he could in 1972 but the Cardinals still sucked.
The Pirates have sucked since Star Wars was a new franchise, thats not going to change anytime soon.

THe Hobby barely cares about Kershaw and even less about JV (married to a hot woman), and Max

it is what it is though for sure

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by Noles939913

I’m not even a fanboy of Fried like you are with Jazz but you did leave out his career 3.07 ERA. Have you seen the players the HOF has been inducting lately? He absolutely has a chance.

Can’t say Max Fried getting into the HOF concerns me one way or the other. Good luck.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

i agree. but being on the Pirates is why i said Cole as he came up there.
Steve Carton did everything he could in 1972 but the Cardinals still sucked.
The Pirates have sucked since Star Wars was a new franchise, thats not going to change anytime soon.

THe Hobby barely cares about Kershaw and even less about JV (married to a hot woman), and Max

it is what it is though for sure

Free agency will solve that problem. Barry Bonds did ok drafted by the Pirates.

ETA: Not suggesting his ceiling is Bonds. He's a pitcher after all. Just that starting your career on the Pirates isn't a killer.

[Twalk1975]

Originally Posted by seanrs1

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1582746

I see someone is trying to steal my thunder/topic on hobby good I have been doing for the past few years.

Apologies! I was eagerly awaiting the thread, but hadn't seen it yet and Opening Day is almost here.

[Noles939913]

Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

Can’t say Max Fried getting into the HOF concerns me one way or the other. Good luck.

I was simply using the fact that he has an outside shot at the HOF as one of the reasons he gets more hobby love than Jazz Chisholm Jr. who’s a hobby nothing no matter how hard MLB tried to make it otherwise.

[Twalk1975]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

i agree. but being on the Pirates is why i said Cole as he came up there.
Steve Carton did everything he could in 1972 but the Cardinals still sucked.
The Pirates have sucked since Star Wars was a new franchise, thats not going to change anytime soon.

THe Hobby barely cares about Kershaw and even less about JV (married to a hot woman), and Max

it is what it is though for sure

He may be on the Pirates, but if he makes it through this year without injury, he could conceivably be the ace of the U.S. team at the WBC next year. The best run team in baseball is all in on the international market, MLB would be stupid not to make a big deal of the WBC, and to make sure the biggest names are playing.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by Twalk1975

He may be on the Pirates, but if he makes it through this year without injury, he could conceivably be the ace of the U.S. team at the WBC next year. The best run team in baseball is all in on the international market, MLB would be stupid not to make a big deal of the WBC, and to make sure the biggest names are playing.

lets hope that happens!

[KhalDrogo]

Skenes is the worst prospect/young player buy since Strasburg. Even if no TJ, the ceiling is limited by how starting pitchers are managed in today’s game. He can still be the best of a generation. But that’s Kershaw today, and Kershaw doesn’t sell for all that much more than Skenes. Not to mention the dollar flow into Skenes vs Kershaw.

Long-term, people will be very disappointed if they’re trying to make a buck off him.

[jacksonjj]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Skenes is the worst prospect/young player buy since Strasburg. Even if no TJ, the ceiling is limited by how starting pitchers are managed in today’s game. He can still be the best of a generation. But that’s Kershaw today, and Kershaw doesn’t sell for all that much more than Skenes. Not to mention the dollar flow into Skenes vs Kershaw.

Long-term, people will be very disappointed if they’re trying to make a buck off him.

This x's 100. From today forward, how can Skenes prices possibly go up? Obscene print runs, and there's already 5 cy youngs and goat status baked into this. And even all that will only steady the market, it can't possibly climb.

[seanrs1]

Originally Posted by Twalk1975

Apologies! I was eagerly awaiting the thread, but hadn't seen it yet and Opening Day is almost here.

No worries! I am on vacation and totally forgot about it. It is now yours...I will just add my two cents.