Would you be upset if an LCS did this? I was LIVID and lost faith in the hobby

[drobfan8]

I would probably be pretty annoyed, but then I'd move on to something else in store, especially if they had so much good stuff.

The owner sounds like he felt he could move the entire case soon, you can't give them too much grief for that. It's how it is these days.

I was lucky enough to go to a store in SA last year, loved it, although they didn't have as many options as I thought they would.

[shindo03]

I hate to say it but this is a regular practice in the hobby, I used to work for a hobby store and I remember seeing this all the time. That's actually why I quit working at that store. Some LCS owners feel as though only the "regulars" that purchase stuff that nobody else would want should have access to certain items. So, if you spend $5,000 every 6 months on NT/Flawless/Immaculate, they really don't care, it's all about buying a crap load of NBA Hoops, so that you get first priority at the NT/Flawless/Immaculate at their store hahaha. I remember 2012 Exquisite was hot or maybe it was 2011 where you score a Jordan/Lebron/Hall of Famer in the case, and I remember some customers were just not allowed to purchase it. Then the owner was stuck with it when it cooled off and those same people he told off were already pretty pissed so they ended up not buying. Just how it goes hahaha.

[No1CavsFan]

And just in case you did go back somewhere to buy Gala...

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by No1CavsFan

And just in case you did go back somewhere to buy Gala...

This is pretty funny and made me laugh, not as good as the other meme but still funny.

Yes it's the same store. Obviously the "lost faith in the hobby" is hyperbole. Most people on BO "lose faith" or "quit" weekly. But it was pretty disheartening to make the drive ready to spend money and then be told "no you can't buy it" when it clearly was for sale and marked. The story to go with why I couldn't buy it (guys bought 30 cases of this stuff) was just ridiculous and then listening to him hype the "high dollar cards coming out of Gala" was laugh out loud funny.

Oh well, I should have titled it "First World Problem, High School Drama Inside"

Just incase anyone is wondering, had he of offered the "15% off" I would have purchased everything I was intending to plus some

[smalltown]

Originally Posted by shindo03

Some LCS owners feel as though only the "regulars" that purchase stuff that nobody else would want should have access to certain items.

I'll share what happened to me yesterday. There's an LCS near a client i deal with, so i try to stop in when i have some extra time. Had an hour to kill so stopped in with the intention of blowing some money. He never has much basketball so i wasn't too hopeful. Well i was right. But there was a 3 year old box of Best of Basketball so i figured why not. Asked him to grab it, put it on the counter and went to grab some supplies.

While looking at supplies i'm listening talk to who i guess was a regular. He was complaining business was slow. He told the regular he'd get him a list of what his distributer has and would order anything from it with 10% mark up on boxes or 8% mark up on cases.

So i walk over with my supplies. He starts to ring me up and i mention what i over heard. And that i'd love to be able to purchase some boxes once a month or so - "Oh no. We don't do that." - I told him i just heard him say that. He said oh he's a regular, he buys from me all the time.

I ended up just taking the supplies. He got a grand total of $3.10 from me. It just blows my mind that these guys complain about business being bad or whatever, but, absolutely refuse to do anything to create new clientele.

[pigeonsbaseball]

The owner has sold $40k of one product to one person in the last 3-4 months. Maybe he had promised he would hold onto his last case for him or maybe he was just doing that out of courtesy for a frequent customer.

He obviously made a mistake by having his last case of Gala on display. This isn't the same as folks who are comparing shop owners who only sell their best stuff to certain customers.


I can understand why you were disappointed but if it was me I would have said, 'hey I totally understand if I had a customer that spent $40k on one product I would take care of them too' And since the shop is loaded with product I would have moved onto the next product without a seconds hesitation.

Not telling you how to feel but this wouldn't have bothered me at all.

[pingbling23]

Originally Posted by pejc300

Bros...how did we get two pages deep without this? Read, enjoy, and everything will be understood.

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/f...-opinions.html

Nice to see several of the douches in that thread have been banned.

[jr24ai3]

Originally Posted by shindo03

I hate to say it but this is a regular practice in the hobby, I used to work for a hobby store and I remember seeing this all the time. That's actually why I quit working at that store. Some LCS owners feel as though only the "regulars" that purchase stuff that nobody else would want should have access to certain items. So, if you spend $5,000 every 6 months on NT/Flawless/Immaculate, they really don't care, it's all about buying a crap load of NBA Hoops, so that you get first priority at the NT/Flawless/Immaculate at their store hahaha. I remember 2012 Exquisite was hot or maybe it was 2011 where you score a Jordan/Lebron/Hall of Famer in the case, and I remember some customers were just not allowed to purchase it. Then the owner was stuck with it when it cooled off and those same people he told off were already pretty pissed so they ended up not buying. Just how it goes hahaha.

The LCS should give priority on NT/Flawless/Immaculate to their regulars who support them year long. Once they turn it down, then it becomes available to the next in line. Imagine if you were the guy who was always buying the lower-mid end stuff and then the owner tells you he sold the good stuff to a non-regular before he offered it to you. He'd lose that regular customer who helped move the junk you have to buy to get the good stuff.

[mfisher27]

It sounds like there was a possibility you'd open a whole case but it also sounds like you were just going to open a box, maybe a few and try and get a big hit before quitting on the case. That's like when I see people buying a pack at a time from an open box at an LCS trying to get the hits without having to pay for a whole box.

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

Sure there was. Immaculate, NT, Noir, Luxe, Flawless. I was going to work my way up.


It did. That's why I was going to work my way up. Gala and Luxe were the exact same price. ($169.95 I believe)


He didn't know if I was going to open more, or if I was going to do one. Truthfully I was going to do one and depending on what was hit probably move to Luxe and then up the chain. Also, what I was going to pull was relative....I know everytime I open something I'm going to lose. No LCS in my city had Gala (and thank god because it sat and sat), so I was just going to open it since I hadn't yet.



This is actually pretty funny hahaha

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

Fair enough, but the owner didn't know I wasn't going to run the case. You guy's know because I told you but the owner had no clue. No idea what was in my pocket, how much I was wanting to spend and so forth...

Also, I've yet to find an LCS who wouldn't crack a box to sell the packs. I seldom purchase packs (unless it's the last pack of the box) but typically when I grab the last pack out of a box the LCS cracks open another box to sell the packs if they have a box around.



Agreed it's a first world problem. Again, just annoying that my money was no good. I would liken it to you trying to buy shares of *insert biotech company* and being told no you're not allowed. Not because the practice is not allowed, but just because YOU specifically aren't allowed to. If he was selling it by the case that would be 1 thing, but he wasn't.

Still agree with you though it's completely a first world problem.

[Brobocop]

Came in for a possible scam story, left with a normal LCS practice story. Disappointing.

[shindo03]

Originally Posted by jr24ai3

The LCS should give priority on NT/Flawless/Immaculate to their regulars who support them year long. Once they turn it down, then it becomes available to the next in line. Imagine if you were the guy who was always buying the lower-mid end stuff and then the owner tells you he sold the good stuff to a non-regular before he offered it to you. He'd lose that regular customer who helped move the junk you have to buy to get the good stuff.

I mean that system is so flawed.... So you offer the guy that spends the most money on mediocre items at at your store the cream of the crop at all times, then how are you ever going to create the opportunity for someone to exceed THAT guy? Meaning Joe Shmoe walked in and you never saw him before and he wants the Immaculate, you don't sell it to him, he gets pissed. What if Joe Shmoe was just getting back into the hobby and he was way more loaded then your regular and he would probably have bought cases and cases of Panini NBA Hoops hahaha..... I would write a huge essay on why it's flawed, but think about what you're saying, I absolutely can see where you're coming from but whatever happened to plain old first come first serve hahaha.

[the27guy]

Originally Posted by No1CavsFan

And just in case you did go back somewhere to buy Gala...

I lol'd.....


Even though I'm sure I'm the only person on the boards who owns the dinwiddie gala rookie.

[housecore]

Originally Posted by pejc300

Bros...how did we get two pages deep without this? Read, enjoy, and everything will be understood.

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/f...-opinions.html

after going through the link you provided....TS has no problem his ol' lady getting ripped off and ends up buying more products from the shop that did her dirty because he couldn't resist saving few $....
but now he has a end of the universe problem because a shop owner wouldn't sell him a box of cards....
because of that his heart is torn into pieces and he has lost faith in the hobby.....not because of the shady shop owner ripping off his ol' lady but because a shop owner wouldn't sell him a box of cards....

this man sounds like a decent human being....

[ktzdaman]

You could just go to my LCS - they bust every case in the back, open them until they get the case hit then put the rest on the shelve.

[IronMonkey415]

Bring a couple of goons and pretend to fight one another in the store.
Have them grab you and throw you into the Beckett magazine section.

[SteveO21]

Originally Posted by IronMonkey415

Bring a couple of goons and pretend to fight one another in the store.
Have them grab you and throw you into the Beckett magazine section.

Legit lol'd

[celtics86]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

Ya I see your point. Maybe "livid" is the wrong word, although I was pretty upset that I couldn't open something I wanted to open when it was clearly "for sale". Silver lining is just more money in my pocket. Just sucks when I actually want to spend money on something and told by the owner of the store I can't.

Don't give up. Try again tomorrow, but wear a disguise.

[Bigalloyd13]

Originally Posted by Cervantes

If this store is really this 'big', they're not worrying about selling single boxes of this product. This one regular customer who 'only buys cases' is a flat-out lie, imo; he was trying to get you to buy the case.

I might (MIGHT) understand it if it was 1990 Skybox, but it's a current and popular product, not in a random, out of the way location, and with the amount of foot traffic through there, it's going to move. I work in retail that does a HUGE amount of sales in volume, and what he's making off of individual boxes > 1 case. He's going to make more money, imo.

One last note; if there was a sign on there that said CASE SALE ONLY, I understand. If he's selling boxes of this product, he's in the wrong. And if he f'd up by having the ''last case'' (doubt it) out for display with his BOX SALES, eat it and sell a box. That's HIS screw up.

I agree, I may be wrong but I'm not sure how much of this stuff was opened which could play into him trying to move this case as a whole. He may have even given a discount if the whole case was purchased. I wouldn't be surprised if he was just trying to sell the case.

[Stackfan]

Sorry about the whole hassle.... Sucks you had to drive so far.

I wasn't there, so im not sure if the box/case was labeled as such...although i wouldn't get so upset if it wouldn't bust a case to sell one box. Seems like quite the LCS with all those different products. I consider myself lucky if my LCS has more than 6 different basketball products. Oh, and price wise, it's about 15%-20% higher than blowout.

The good news is blowout is running a special on Gala right now too!

[No1CavsFan]

Originally Posted by Stackfan

The good news is blowout is running a special on Gala right now too!

Either you PC Spencer Dinwiddie or you don't like memes...

[Pastretta]

Originally Posted by No1CavsFan

Either you PC Spencer Dinwiddie or you don't like memes...

[oldgoldy97]

There's a link around here someplace for an online store that sells Gala. I can't remember the name of that place, though. I'm pretty sure it is even on sale this weekend.

[sjay2k]

Not sure why you'd be livid. They were honest and their position makes sense. Lots of people don't want to buy boxes cases from opened cases..

Businesses need look out for their best clients.

You sound like a whinging crumb.

[Irish]

Originally Posted by shindo03

I mean that system is so flawed.... So you offer the guy that spends the most money on mediocre items at at your store the cream of the crop at all times, then how are you ever going to create the opportunity for someone to exceed THAT guy? Meaning Joe Shmoe walked in and you never saw him before and he wants the Immaculate, you don't sell it to him, he gets pissed. What if Joe Shmoe was just getting back into the hobby and he was way more loaded then your regular and he would probably have bought cases and cases of Panini NBA Hoops hahaha..... I would write a huge essay on why it's flawed, but think about what you're saying, I absolutely can see where you're coming from but whatever happened to plain old first come first serve hahaha.

The card companies have an allocation system for all distributors and lcs. so the guy that supports the manufacturers product lines throughout the year I e the regular buying all year long is typically the guy who contributing to the lcs being able to even carry the product. Alot of customers know that so it's kind of nice to know you have first dibs on high end stuff since you're the reason it's there in the first place. Flawed yes but I don't blame the lcs owner he's trying to make his regulars happy. It's the manufacturers stipulations.

[pigeonsbaseball]

Originally Posted by shindo03

I mean that system is so flawed.... So you offer the guy that spends the most money on mediocre items at at your store the cream of the crop at all times, then how are you ever going to create the opportunity for someone to exceed THAT guy? Meaning Joe Shmoe walked in and you never saw him before and he wants the Immaculate, you don't sell it to him, he gets pissed. What if Joe Shmoe was just getting back into the hobby and he was way more loaded then your regular and he would probably have bought cases and cases of Panini NBA Hoops hahaha..... I would write a huge essay on why it's flawed, but think about what you're saying, I absolutely can see where you're coming from but whatever happened to plain old first come first serve hahaha.

Totally understand, respect, and agree with what you are saying.

In this situation we are missing one key piece of information.

Would store owner have sold the entire case to OP if he asked to buy it?