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Old 04-20-2017, 09:04 PM   #726
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Horrible sample data, as most pitchers have only pitched 3 games. It's very easy for them to have a great 3 start stretch. Once they have a few bad starts sprinkled in it will even out a lot more.

And then you are comparing a starter with those 5 IP numbers to a hitter hitting 2 home runs, but you fail to realize that pitcher might only get one start that week where the batter will more than likely play in 5-6 games in that week.

Just look at these 3 week stretches, you really have to let the season play more than 2 weeks before you can even start to worry about points.

Kluber was a 2nd rd pitcher in our draft and didn't have a great first 3 games with 5, 11 and 5 points for a toal of 21 points this season. Then take Ervin Santana for example who is the leading scorer in all of fantasy at 23, 23, and 46 points for 92 total. We all know that Santana is not going to keep up that pace. Don't worry, it all evens out.
Lol, with all due respect....you do realize the 'horrible sample data' I provided you completely agrees with the point you are trying to prove.

20/24 top scorers have been pitchers. This means.......that while yes we all agree Ervin Santana will fall off, another pitcher will rise and take his place for a hot week or two. Meaning again...unless its a complete anomaly, we will likely see 70-75% of high scorers be pitchers. If it is scored evenly Sticks v pitchers that number would likely sit between 45-55% by seasons end.

8/12 matchups being won by the guy who starts more equates in hot players, with not so hot players also invalidating the Santana argument.

Its a complete body of work....not one player. Again its just food for thought....will see how it plays out. As I stated.....its not jumping down anyones throat.


On another note I need a slightly above waiver wire second baseman.....not looking to give up anything of consequence off my team. Back end of your bench for back end of mine type deal. --- This need is filled. For the prices I was getting quoted for backup 2B's no wonder there haven't been many deals.
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Old 04-21-2017, 10:00 AM   #727
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Lots of people still haven't set their trading block in the league- Please do so when you have a minute. Makes it much easier to start trade discussions
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Old 04-21-2017, 11:50 AM   #728
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Lol, with all due respect....you do realize the 'horrible sample data' I provided you completely agrees with the point you are trying to prove.

20/24 top scorers have been pitchers. This means.......that while yes we all agree Ervin Santana will fall off, another pitcher will rise and take his place for a hot week or two. Meaning again...unless its a complete anomaly, we will likely see 70-75% of high scorers be pitchers. If it is scored evenly Sticks v pitchers that number would likely sit between 45-55% by seasons end.

8/12 matchups being won by the guy who starts more equates in hot players, with not so hot players also invalidating the Santana argument.

Its a complete body of work....not one player. Again its just food for thought....will see how it plays out. As I stated.....its not jumping down anyones throat.


On another note I need a slightly above waiver wire second baseman.....not looking to give up anything of consequence off my team. Back end of your bench for back end of mine type deal. --- This need is filled. For the prices I was getting quoted for backup 2B's no wonder there haven't been many deals.
Again, horrible data.... I didn't prove your point at all. Like I said you are using 3 weeks of data. How about we look at the whole entire last season of stats, the ones that were available to us when we decided to use this scoring system.


38 batters had over 400 pts

32 pitchers had over 400 pts

The only thing that happened was the top of the top pitchers scored more than the top of the top batters but that was discussed before the scoring got put into effect.


Straight from Hollywood when he proposed the scoring:

I dunno, that seems ok. The top 5 or so pitchers scored a significant amount more than the top batters, but pitching drops off much more quickly as well (which makes sense).

Nothing at all has changed in the scoring except that we're 3 weeks in. Like it was discussed before we chose that scoring and like I said to you yesterday, it will all even out, horrible sample data.

Not sure what you are trying to prove by the teams who started more pitchers won either... starting more players doesn't automatically equal the players getting more points.

I won week 1 and started one more pitcher than my opponent. My SP had 86 pts, my hitters 208, and my RP 59.

His SP 135, hitters 161 and RP 3.

You didn't breakdown the numbers at all, your argument about SP is flawed. Everyone's break up of where their pts come from will be different. Just because I started 1 more pitcher didn't have any correlation to why I won that week. He killed me in pts with his SP.
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Old 04-21-2017, 10:12 PM   #729
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Corey Kluber with the Complete-Game Shutout over the White Sox!!!
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Old 04-24-2017, 10:20 AM   #730
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Trey Mancini is on a prospect roster, so I undid the transaction for the team that just added him
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Old 04-24-2017, 11:18 AM   #731
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Now that we're a few weeks into the year, thought I'd look back at my preseason power rankings and compare to our current standings. My preseason rankings were based individually on hitting or pitching, so might not exactly match up

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1. Cornerstore- Preseason bat rank- 5. Preseason pitch rank- 4
2. todderfield- Bat- 10. Pitch- 1
3. julusnc- Bat- 3. Pitch- 11
4. Bosox34- Bat- 2. Pitch- 3
5. Hollywood- Bat- 7. Pitch- 2
6. Sportscards515- Bat- 8. Pitch- 6
7. silverandblack- Bat- 12. Pitch- 9
8. Highroller- Bat- 4. Pitch- 5
9. Firerunner- Bat- 9. Pitch- 8
10. bshea- Bat- 6. Pitch- 10
11. Dbacksbaseball- Bat- 11. Pitch- 7
12. HOFAutoRookies- Bat- 7. Pitch- 12

I'll go more in depth later on but looks like many of my rankings were pretty good so far
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Old 04-24-2017, 01:01 PM   #732
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Need to get my guys back off the DL, need to keep my head above water until then.
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Old 04-24-2017, 07:36 PM   #733
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Eric Thames is something else, 10 homers now on the season!
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Old 04-24-2017, 08:31 PM   #734
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Martinez
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All on the DL. Unreal
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Old 04-25-2017, 03:53 PM   #735
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Old 04-25-2017, 09:41 PM   #736
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Obviously the projections are almost unheard of, but Eric Thames is on pace to hit 81 homers as he hit #11 tonight. This dude is an absolute beast!!!
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Old 04-25-2017, 10:35 PM   #737
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2 down, 18 left!

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Keep in mind - the top pitchers generally have had 3 starts and 3 quality starts.... That is a pace that will not keep up (if ervin santana has a QS each of the next 20 outings, i will put the winnings to everyone so we can all buy a case and celebrate ervin stanana's rise to dominance) . Pitchers who have not had that luck can easily be much, much lower (IE Kluber 21, hendricks 9, tanaka 2, gausman 1) etc. So yes, in a given week a pitcher can dominant - but hitters will give a more consistent scoring and while i would not be surprised given the settings that a pitcher is the top 8 of the top 10 spots but that would go to a guy who has consistent quality starts as a loss is going to know them off pace.
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Old 04-26-2017, 12:02 AM   #738
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So Hahn was a nice stream today
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Old 04-27-2017, 09:00 AM   #739
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Finally my guys are starting to play....putting together a decent week and then Fernando Rodney happens. -24!
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Old 04-27-2017, 09:53 AM   #740
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I have 5 pitchers on the DL, a 6th likely headed there soon, and a 7th that's day to day... I need to make a trade or two. Send over some offers or PM me who you like and who from your team is available
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Old 04-27-2017, 06:09 PM   #741
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sighs injuries hitting my pitching staff, my backbone..... baum, then felix.... now thor.
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Old 04-27-2017, 08:21 PM   #742
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Damn, didn't have much confidence in Matt Moore today, so left him on the bench... Missed 27 points. Hopefully this doesn't come back to haunt me. I think I have 3 losses already this year between 2 leagues that I could have won if I had made 1 different sit/start decision on a SP
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Old 04-29-2017, 11:03 PM   #743
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Eaton out for year now... im glad souza is playing well to be that third outfielder but that one hurts
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This has all been a learning experience so far this season. So many hurt all-stars. I wish I had taken another player instead of Dahl when I did. It seems that is my most glaring error. Maybe not stocking a couple of draft picks makes my team weaker..... I am all ears on trades. If I were to trade Sale it would need to be a great keeper or a couple of good ones.
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What a game for Anthony Rendon!!! 6-6 with 3 Homers, 10 RBIs! Would've been a 4th homer (Grand Slam) had that 3 Run Double got about half a foot higher.
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Old 04-30-2017, 04:08 PM   #746
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Gah... I'm going to come up just short this week. So many of my SPs are hurt... Really need to trade for one or two of them, please send me some offers!
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Great battle this week BoSox. Real good week for both of us but looks like I'm going to wear it again. Great day by Rendon put you over the top!
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Old 04-30-2017, 09:59 PM   #749
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Great battle this week BoSox. Real good week for both of us but looks like I'm going to wear it again. Great day by Rendon put you over the top!

Yeah man I was just about to give you a lot of props, you put up quite the battle this week. It is always matchups like these that are the most exciting because we were going neck and neck all the way to the end. My team for the most part did not perform that well this week, however I was extremely lucky and fortunate that Rendon had a monster game tonight and that Fernando Rodney blew 2 saves
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Yeah man I was just about to give you a lot of props, you put up quite the battle this week. It is always matchups like these that are the most exciting because we were going neck and neck all the way to the end. My team for the most part did not perform that well this week, however I was extremely lucky and fortunate that Rendon had a monster game tonight and that Fernando Rodney blew 2 saves
Yup +39 and a W if I just sit Rodney. It happens. Finally feel like my team is starting to come around a little, have picked up a few more young under the radar arms as well to max out starts.

I thought your guys overall had a real good week. Getting over 300 is solid. Think you were 2nd highest this week. See ya again in 11 weeks
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