Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer

[phildow]

Originally Posted by nerdherd020

Oldmanalan’s Rivera has a shot. I also think Shore’s McGwire will as well - only five other cards have a lower print run.

Of course, the Oldmanalan Rivera was the card that made me decide to try to complete the set of Oldmanalan. I may have to reconsider if the one card can fund a lot more P2020 purchases this year.

[premium1981]

There is some serious salt around here towards the Money Bear card. Geez.

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by BurnerNotify

At some point, you might as well buy an original painting from the artist instead of paying ridiculous prices for a card on the secondary market.

Take that somewhere else.. Shhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Bruvydsb]

Originally Posted by BurnerNotify

agree. this is a no-no. pre-selling cards is risky enough. pre-selling a card where you're not an original owner is down-right idiotic unless you don't mind negative feedback. any seller that cancels on me is getting neg'd (immediately).

Will be a wild game of dominos when the OG seller cancels and that card has already been sold multiple times thereafter.

[gmoney328]

Originally Posted by Bruvydsb

Will be a wild game of dominos when the OG seller cancels and that card has already been sold multiple times thereafter.

Wonder what % of pre-sales are of this variety?

That has the potential to be a MASSIVE disaster.

[premium1981]

Ermsy Trout went at auction for $782.82. Four different bidders bid $700 or more. Its going higher........

[ThoseBackPages]

pre-selling cards on ebay that you dont have? DANGEROUS

would you, as a seller, prefer a negative if it leads to making an additional $300?

im sure most would

[nerdherd020]

Originally Posted by premium1981

Ermsy Trout went at auction for $782.82. Four different bidders bid $700 or more. Its going higher........

And to think it was selling for ~$450 three days ago.

[ThoseBackPages]

no reason Ermsy Trout should be under 1K

[ZiggySQ]

Originally Posted by CardFarmer

If that's true, then you're basically saying that King Saladeen is too stupid to know the value of his own brand? Because if what you're saying is true, Saladeen should have recognized that he's a "big deal" and he wouldn't have left hundreds of thousands of $ on the table with those $99 moneybear cards. These guys aren't running charities. The moneybear seller is 99% flippers/speculators. If may be a self fulfilling prophecy where the card is expensive because it's expensive, but I'd be surprised if more than 50 of those are in the hands of his true fan base.

You could say that about any other artist/company (supreme, nike, bear bricks, funk is, etc) whose products sell at markups on secondary markets are all stupid? He probably definitely could have charged more and those other companies/artists could too, but they don’t. It is what it is.


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[Asian62150]

Originally Posted by ctcardexchange

I got offered 500 for money bear, should I take it?


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If you're happy with $325+ in profit for a couple of clicks, take it.

If you would rather hold out for potentially more while risking getting less, pass on it.

No one knows with these things anymore. Even with the pumping (or salt), all it takes is one buyer.

But if you ask me what these settle at and give me the choice of $5K, $1K, or $50, I would be most surprised if they settle at $50.

Some of us just found out about him and his art a couple of months ago and are new fans. Others in the art world (or from Philly, it seems) have been fans of his for years.

[Archangel1775]

I expect Blake,Tyson and Efdot to do the 999 header cards(could be wrong) but wouldnt blame them if they offer them up for $199. $200K is a lot of money they can make really fast. They better initial them though! :P

[yrocks2001]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

I expect Blake,Tyson and Efdot to do the 999 header cards(could be wrong) but wouldnt blame them if they offer them up for $199. $200K is a lot of money they can make really fast.

They can customize them any way they want, put on a light spot for an auto throw it in a one-touch and bam people will probably buy for $200!

Keith Shore is giving his cards away for auto orders.

[ThoseBackPages]

CANT WAIT!

[metsandweezer]

So did anyone else buy the 10 card lots of the Trout Rochester and Gooden Baller?

[Americards]

People listing the bear with Topps Project 2020 in the title and that is wrong!

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by Americards

People listing the bear with Topps Project 2020 in the title and that is wrong!

no shock, they are probably in this thread lol

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by nerdherd020

Were you able to get one? I hesitated and missed out.

Yes, I grabbed two. Should have purchased 100. I keep saying this too...

I was there when Ermsy Trout autos were on sale and could have purchased all tiers. Decided I hated money.

I was there when Mattingly Charities first listed their first autographed P2020 card and could have purchased several more, but decided I hated money.

I was there during Oldmanalan’s Rivera release with 50 more in my cart, but decided I hated money.

The list goes on and on. One of these days I’m going to listen to myself.

[BurnerNotify]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

pre-selling cards on ebay that you dont have? DANGEROUS

would you, as a seller, prefer a negative if it leads to making an additional $300?

im sure most would

I can see sellers with sh!t feedback cancelling for an extra $300. For sure. But for sellers with 100%, it doesn't seem worth it. Once a seller has negative feedback from a cancelled Project 2020 deal, who is going to buy from them (not me.)

[shu4040]

Just had a crazy idea (based of the mattinglys signed) of going for a signed set (of an artist) by all of the players.

This is obviously a loooong term project (flippers can stay away) but conceivably doable (outside of those not around, clemente, jackie, gwynn, who else)

I'm one of the rare ones on the Matt Taylor set since that Rickey sucked me in hard that i'm thinking silver autos across those cards would look great

[Jimmy the Greek]

Looks like two money bears have sold on ebay so far. One for $500 BIN and the other at $547 or BO but based on the site I use that shows what it actually sold for, I think it was truly sold for $547.

[BurnerNotify]

Originally Posted by metsandweezer

So did anyone else buy the 10 card lots of the Trout Rochester and Gooden Baller?

I bought a 10 lot of the Baller Gooden - it's a kick#@#@#@ card. I'm starting to warm up to Baller's schtick. I didn't touch the Trout since i'm not collecting the player nor do i want to sit on bricks.

[Hdpooh34]

I’ll trade my Saladeen money bear for a Baller Ichiro + Ermsy Trout package if anyone wants one. Only trading for both, not one or the other

[kevbojones]

I noted a few days ago that the energy seemed to be shifting on Project 2020.

What should be a celebrated product that everyone had/has access too seems to have turned a lot of people in "coke" heads, and others have taken a total "eff" you attitude to people new people to the thread, or who are just starting to get involved.

It's interesting to watch, but it seems to have turned really dark with greed and envy

[speedyjg13]

Originally Posted by ctcardexchange

I got offered 500 for money bear, should I take it?


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I believe they released for $100? Did you pay $100 for it? Also, search eBay for sold listings... do they sell for more than 500? "are you leaving meat on the bone?"

If you are okay with $400 profit (assuming you paid $100) then go for it. If you want more money, hold that teddy bear.