The OFFICIAL 2022 NBA Offseason thread

[rhigh2390]

Originally Posted by gomiamigo

Boy Lebron can't stop saying dumb as eff things can he?

Do you expect any different by now?

[rman112]

https://twitter.com/MrMatthewCFB/sta...32535082586117

[ninjacookies]

Seeing all these vetted 5th year dudes demanding trades makes me appreciate Dame and his giga contract even more.

These pros ain't loyal.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

Seeing all these vetted 5th year dudes demanding trades makes me appreciate Dame and his giga contract even more.

These pros ain't loyal.

It's funny because Dame is at the sweet spot where he's good enough to get the big money, but not great enough to have the burden of actually having to win anything on him.

The guy will forever be Portland's 'Mr. Basketball'. But he's under the radar enough that he got to leave the bubble prematurely with his team down 3-1 to the Lakers and nobody really cared.

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by tjforce

It's funny because Dame is at the sweet spot where he's good enough to get the big money, but not great enough to have the burden of actually having to win anything on him.

The guy will forever be Portland's 'Mr. Basketball'. But he's under the radar enough that he got to leave the bubble prematurely with his team down 3-1 to the Lakers and nobody really cared.

I mean, there's really only so much you can do in a market like Portland with the pieces the front office has given. He's maximized the cards he was dealt in comparison to pretty much every other star/squad in the western conference trying to vie for a piece of that Golden State chicken.

He left the bubble for a non contact knee injury, which are the scariest to deal with. He tried to go back out on it, but it wasn't happening. He'd be the last guy I'd suspect to duck out if he was actually able to play. This ain't Bron putting on a Meryl Streep performance over dehydration cramps.

[daeve]

Kidd say C Wood is coming off the bench, lol wonder how he's gonna take that.

Starters: Luka-Dinwiddie-Bullock-DFS-McGee

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by gomiamigo

Boy Lebron can't stop saying dumb as eff things can he?

Both him and her coach.

Now he’s hawking tshirts to help pay for her family’s court costs.

He’s a billionaire! If he cared that much he’d foot the bill himself.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

I mean, there's really only so much you can do in a market like Portland with the pieces the front office has given. He's maximized the cards he was dealt in comparison to pretty much every other star/squad in the western conference trying to vie for a piece of that Golden State chicken.

He left the bubble for a non contact knee injury, which are the scariest to deal with. He tried to go back out on it, but it wasn't happening. He'd be the last guy I'd suspect to duck out if he was actually able to play. This ain't Bron putting on a Meryl Streep performance over dehydration cramps.

Yeah, he wasn't playing Game 5 of that series, that's fine.

But theoretically, if they came back and won that series and went on a run, his knee might have been healed enough to play. But leaving the bubble meant he wouldn't be able to come back.

Like it or not, he quit on his team. He looked at the situation and decided that going home was better than staying to support his team from the bench or in the off chance that they could pull it off. Maybe it was the right decision. Maybe LeBron, AD, Giannis, KD, or Steph would have done the same thing. But Dame did, and nobody seems to hold it against him, because he's good, but not great.

[Nomad]

Suns and pacers finally about to pull a sign and trade.

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Yeah, he wasn't playing Game 5 of that series, that's fine.

But theoretically, if they came back and won that series and went on a run, his knee might have been healed enough to play. But leaving the bubble meant he wouldn't be able to come back.

Like it or not, he quit on his team. He looked at the situation and decided that going home was better than staying to support his team from the bench or in the off chance that they could pull it off. Maybe it was the right decision. Maybe LeBron, AD, Giannis, KD, or Steph would have done the same thing. But Dame did, and nobody seems to hold it against him, because he's good, but not great.

Lulwut.

He left the bubble under team direction because they didn't have the proper machinery on-site to give him additional testing for a full diagnosis.

*If* they somehow advanced, he probably would have came back, but even then I think COVID guidelines stated there was a minimum 1 week grace period to return for isolation and testing. There was no quitting. He suffered a legit injury during a very odd and trying time in American history.


Checking out would be an all-smiles, fully healthy Lebron last year being idle on both ends of the floor in the 4th quarter in an elimination game.

[cms11]

Originally Posted by gomiamigo

Boy Lebron can't stop saying dumb as eff things can he?

I agree with him most of the time, but he's delusional that there's any possible way to convince Putin to release her when we're a de facto war against Russia.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/lebron-ja...175538850.html

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by rms13

Nets asked Wolves for KAT, Edwards and picks for KD hahahaha. Enjoy another year in Brooklyn KD

KD could have been a free agent this year had he not signed the extension with the Nets. But he chose the money.

Hard to have any sympathy for someone who wants to have his cake and eat it too.....

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

I mean, there's really only so much you can do in a market like Portland with the pieces the front office has given.

Exactly.

The real problem is the "Title or bust" mentality that is causing a consistent playoff team like Utah to tear apart their team and completely rebuild.

There are plenty of fan bases out there that would be quite happy with making the playoffs six consecutive seasons. Heck there are plenty that would be happy with just the occasional playoff appearance.

The problem is that you have 5-10 teams for whom anything short of a title is considered failure despite the fact that only one team can win the title each year.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by cms11

I agree with him most of the time, but he's delusional that there's any possible way to convince Putin to release her when we're a de facto war against Russia.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/lebron-ja...175538850.html

Yeah.....the US isn't going to trade a convicted arms dealer like Viktor Bout for a WNBA basketball player.

It hasn't taken a genius over the past few years to realize that working in Russia is not exactly a wise choice if you have other options (like playing in Europe).

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

Lulwut.

He left the bubble under team direction because they didn't have the proper machinery on-site to give him additional testing for a full diagnosis.

*If* they somehow advanced, he probably would have came back, but even then I think COVID guidelines stated there was a minimum 1 week grace period to return for isolation and testing. There was no quitting. He suffered a legit injury during a very odd and trying time in American history.


Checking out would be an all-smiles, fully healthy Lebron last year being idle on both ends of the floor in the 4th quarter in an elimination game.

Again... I don't blame him for leaving his team in the bubble and going home with 1 game left for an injury that didn't require surgery if that's what he and the team felt was best.

I'm just making a point that a player of, let's say, Giannis or KD's stature would have gotten a lot more heat if they did the same thing.

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by mfw13

Exactly.

The real problem is the "Title or bust" mentality that is causing a consistent playoff team like Utah to tear apart their team and completely rebuild.

There are plenty of fan bases out there that would be quite happy with making the playoffs six consecutive seasons. Heck there are plenty that would be happy with just the occasional playoff appearance.

The problem is that you have 5-10 teams for whom anything short of a title is considered failure despite the fact that only one team can win the title each year.

Imagine if this same mentality was prevalent throughout the 80's and 90's.

Modern day NBA stardom mirroring US marriage statistics.

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Again... I don't blame him for leaving his team in the bubble and going home with 1 game left for an injury that didn't require surgery if that's what he and the team felt was best.

I'm just making a point that a player of, let's say, Giannis or KD's stature would have gotten a lot more heat if they did the same thing.

I mean, you literally said 'he quit on his team.' No, he didn't. He suffered what *could* have been a very serious injury that was not able to be properly diagnosed on-site. There is no quit in that. Dame's respected throughout the league because of the way he carries himself on and off the floor. He always gives it his all when he's capable.

If 'playoff P' was the most scrutinized man on face of the earth in a market like OKC, Dame certainly is not immune to criticisms. But I think you may be trying to make something out of an issue that was never there.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

I mean, you literally said 'he quit on his team.' No, he didn't. He suffered what *could* have been a very serious injury that was not able to be properly diagnosed on-site. There is no quit in that. Dame's respected throughout the league because of the way he carries himself on and off the floor. He always gives it his all when he's capable.

If 'playoff P' was the most scrutinized man on face of the earth in a market like OKC, Dame certainly is not immune to criticisms. But I think you may be trying to make something out of an issue that was never there.

Guy left the bubble for a mild knee sprain when his teammates were still playing.

I don't know what else to say.

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Guy left the bubble for a mild knee sprain when his teammates were still playing.

I don't know what else to say.

'Mild knee sprain' <--- in retrospect


So you're telling me he somehow fabricated the entire injury and team guidance script as a ploy to escape the humiliation of elimination?

Stifle didn't hack your account, did he?




Blink twice if you need help.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

'Mild knee sprain' <--- in retrospect


So you're telling me he somehow fabricated the entire injury and team guidance script as a ploy to escape the humiliation of elimination?

Stifle didn't hack your account, did he?




Blink twice if you need help.

No, I'm saying he had two choices:

1. Put that team in that bubble as his very first priority, stay with them in hopes they can stay alive long enough for the knee to heel and for him to play again. Be there with them for the journey.

2. Put the long term wellbeing of himself first and leave the bubble when his team still had games to play.

He chose the latter, and I'm not sure it was the wrong choice. But it is what it is.

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by tjforce

No, I'm saying he had two choices:

1. Put that team in that bubble as his very first priority, stay with them in hopes they can stay alive long enough for the knee to heel and for him to play again. Be there with them for the journey.

2. Put the long term wellbeing of himself first and leave the bubble when his team still had games to play.

He chose the latter, and I'm not sure it was the wrong choice. But it is what it is.

I don't think you're getting the gist. He left because they didn't and could not fully diagnose exactly what he had at the time, due to the lack of faculties available at Disneyworld.

It's easy to say he 'just' had a knee sprain 3 years later, but nobody knew that at the time. We all forget how screwy things were back then. Literally nothing was known about Covid and everyone was in full panic mode. That bubble was sloppily put together last minute. It was chaos.


Just odd that you'd bring this up. I don't know of a single soul that actually questioned Dame's motives or the circumstances regarding that injury. But apparently you may have had insider medical knowledge that wasn't available to the public or team at the time.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

I don't think you're getting the gist. He left because they didn't and could not fully diagnose exactly what he had at the time, due to the lack of faculties available at Disneyworld.

It's easy to say he 'just' had a knee sprain 3 years later, but nobody knew that at the time. We all forget how screwy things were back then. Literally nothing was known about Covid and everyone was in full panic mode. That bubble was sloppily put together last minute. It was chaos.


Just odd that you'd bring this up. I don't know of a single soul that actually questioned Dame's motives or the circumstances regarding that injury. But apparently you may have had insider medical knowledge that wasn't available to the public or team at the time.

I remember it quite clearly.... enough to bring it up when seemly no one else besides you remembers much about it.

And that is my exact point. There's Willis Reed hobbling back on the court. There's Giannis bending his knee backwards and playing on it a week later at risk of injuring it worse. And then there's Dame heading out of the bubble as a precaution.

Anyways, I'm not going to change your mind and you won't change mine. I like Dame, he's great for the city of Portland and a franchise that would sink to NBA irrelevance without him. It would be pretty exciting if they could make another run at it like they did in 2019. That series against Denver was pretty legendary. It still surprises me that they got swept out the next round by the Warriors. I thought they would be more competitive that series. The Dubs has a game plan for Dame and did a good job at shutting him down.

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by tjforce

I remember it quite clearly.... enough to bring it up when seemly no one else besides you remembers much about it.

And that is my exact point. There's Willis Reed hobbling back on the court. There's Giannis bending his knee backwards and playing on it a week later at risk of injuring it worse. And then there's Dame heading out of the bubble as a precaution.

Anyways, I'm not going to change your mind and you won't change mine. I like Dame, he's great for the city of Portland and a franchise that would sink to NBA irrelevance without him. It would be pretty exciting if they could make another run at it like they did in 2019. That series against Denver was pretty legendary. It still surprises me that they got swept out the next round by the Warriors. I thought they would be more competitive that series. The Dubs has a game plan for Dame and did a good job at shutting him down.

Giannis later stated that one tweak and his career would have been done.

Was it worth the risk? I mean, (much different circumstances) he won the ship and didn't suffer a catastrophic setback, but a positive result doesn't necessarily justify a bad decision.

It's like doing a $5k spin at the Wynn, knowing you only have 10k in the bank. You hit a $500k jackpot. That doesn't negate the faulty logic.

It's cool to be gung ho and I don't fault it, but I also can't fault someone for wanting to be responsible with their future, especially when they have a large family to support.

I can almost guarantee no one would have bad mouthed Yannis if he decided not to give it a go. He's always had a positive public perception, much like Dame. Because it's easy to see the type of people they are.

[Grizzkid12]

Originally Posted by gomiamigo

Boy Lebron can't stop saying dumb as eff things can he?

Pot, I would like to introduce you to the kettle..

[GOATcards]

Originally Posted by gomiamigo

Boy Lebron can't stop saying dumb as eff things can he?

Originally Posted by Grizzkid12

Pot, I would like to introduce you to the kettle..