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Old 07-20-2020, 12:08 PM   #8001
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The base vets are not good. But now LeBron PSA 10 is over $100. Corners tend to be dinged though.

The rest of the product is excellent. And damn if it’s not a great value break even at current prices.
Recently sold a LeBron PSA 10 orange status for $187
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Old 07-20-2020, 12:11 PM   #8002
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Hello Holo fine 9.

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Old 07-20-2020, 12:15 PM   #8003
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Looks like there's another 2019-20 Optic Dragon up on Ebay(not my card). Curious to see what this goes for to see if I overpaid for mine or not!!!
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Old 07-20-2020, 12:35 PM   #8004
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Hello Holo fine 9.
PSA 9s are great buys for any of the Optic parallels. As are BGS 9.5s. Condition just sucks.
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Old 07-20-2020, 12:37 PM   #8005
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PSA 9s are great buys for any of the Optic parallels. As are BGS 9.5s. Condition just sucks.
Agreed.
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Old 07-20-2020, 12:39 PM   #8006
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PSA 9's are not bad grades at all...it's just that sometimes people over value 10's and leave 9's hanging. 9's are MINT, mint is good!
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Old 07-20-2020, 12:41 PM   #8007
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PSA 9's are not bad grades at all...it's just that sometimes people over value 10's and leave 9's hanging. 9's are MINT, mint is good!
9s are definitely making a move. Seeing them priced the same or slightly above raw is just silly.
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Old 07-20-2020, 12:42 PM   #8008
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PSA 9's are not bad grades at all...it's just that sometimes people over value 10's and leave 9's hanging. 9's are MINT, mint is good!

Couldn’t agree more! There is great value in 9’s. One of my
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Old 07-20-2020, 12:43 PM   #8009
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PSA 9's are not bad grades at all...it's just that sometimes people over value 10's and leave 9's hanging. 9's are MINT, mint is good!
If you snag a 9 for $100 and the 10 version sells for $1000 + you can’t see why it got a 9...... Run cause you got a steal. Nothing wrong with fine 9s!
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Old 07-20-2020, 12:46 PM   #8010
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9s are definitely making a move. Seeing them priced the same or slightly above raw is just silly.
I think its the peace of mind that buyers have knowing the card is "guaranteed" mint. No more examining the card for defects, no more guessing the grade from BGS/PSA. So, that is why they will pay a little bit more for the sense.

Raw cards (as we know), can be freshly mint, or horribly damaged. We have no idea until we receive them.

I disagree and feel that 9's should sell more than raw.
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Old 07-20-2020, 12:47 PM   #8011
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I think its the peace of mind that buyers have knowing the card is "guaranteed" mint. No more examining the card for defects, no more guessing the grade from BGS/PSA. So, that is why they will pay a little bit more for the sense.

Raw cards (as we know), can be freshly mint, or horribly damaged. We have no idea until we receive them.

I disagree and feel that 9's should sell more than raw.
9s should sell for more than raw but not a huge gap though. Enough though.
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Old 07-20-2020, 12:47 PM   #8012
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If you snag a 9 for $100 and the 10 version sells for $1000 + you can’t see why it got a 9...... Run cause you got a steal. Nothing wrong with fine 9s!
Totally agree. My Luka 9’s will go up. But, for reasons we all know, gem 10 is where the big dollars are. Patience with 9’s will not go unrewarded. .
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Old 07-20-2020, 12:48 PM   #8013
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As PSA 10 prices continue to price many collectors out, and more people grade cards themselves, I think you will see an upward tick in PSA 9 pricing.

Honestly, it makes way more sense to buy a PSA 9 for cheaper than raw, crack, and resubmit if you're looking for a 10.
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Old 07-20-2020, 12:50 PM   #8014
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9s should sell for more than raw but not a huge gap though. Enough though.
Yup, not double-raw, but still a nice premium for a 9 vs. raw.
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Old 07-20-2020, 12:50 PM   #8015
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Totally agree. My Luka 9’s will go up. But, for reasons we all know, gem 10 is where the big dollars are. Patience with 9’s will not go unrewarded. .
Just look at PSA of high end players. I would sell my kids for a PSA 9 Jeter foil, Jordan 1986, LeBron RPA, Brady playoff RC auto, list goes on. Money to be made but longer time to see that. Which is perfect since, me personally, not in a rush.


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Old 07-20-2020, 12:50 PM   #8016
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I think 9s should sell for more than raw for sure. All a gamble.

I'm sitting on 3 PSA 10s Base Prizms(1 each) of Luka, Zion and JA. Plan to sell when I get the nervous to list em, pocketing most of the money and purchasing a few PSA 9s of say select or optic of the three guys mentioned and storing for the future.
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Old 07-20-2020, 01:31 PM   #8017
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As PSA 10 prices continue to price many collectors out, and more people grade cards themselves, I think you will see an upward tick in PSA 9 pricing.

Honestly, it makes way more sense to buy a PSA 9 for cheaper than raw, crack, and resubmit if you're looking for a 10.
This is probably the smart thing. I'm willing to bet I can find 10 PSA-9's that look awesome and I'd be surprised if I couldn't get 3 or more to regrade a Gem 10.

Still PSA and BGS 9s are the best value in this crazy market imo.
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Old 07-20-2020, 01:36 PM   #8018
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Keep your eye on the hot players PSA 10 cards that seem to be going up week after week or fairly quickly. If you time it right you can score a bunch of cheap PSA 9s of the same card and just sit back and let the PSA 10s drag the 9s with it for the ride.You can have a better ROI when wheeling and dealing PSA 9s vs the 10s...... sometimes.
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Old 07-20-2020, 01:38 PM   #8019
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I think its the peace of mind that buyers have knowing the card is "guaranteed" mint. No more examining the card for defects, no more guessing the grade from BGS/PSA. So, that is why they will pay a little bit more for the sense.

Raw cards (as we know), can be freshly mint, or horribly damaged. We have no idea until we receive them.

I disagree and feel that 9's should sell more than raw.
My post may have been read different than my intent. 9’s should absolutely be priced higher than raw. I think that gap continues to grow and can’t believe it hasn’t done so faster.
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Old 07-20-2020, 02:32 PM   #8020
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My post may have been read different than my intent. 9’s should absolutely be priced higher than raw. I think that gap continues to grow and can’t believe it hasn’t done so faster.
Then we agree!
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Old 07-20-2020, 02:39 PM   #8021
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Raw Prizm Hyper and Fast Break are on the move. Could be had around $500 last week... now up to $800 and $750.
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Old 07-20-2020, 02:40 PM   #8022
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9’s will definitely start rising more in cards that are tough to gem over the years. A PSA 9 in Revolution, Velocity parallels, Optic Shock, or even Status should carry a higher premium than a PSA 9 in Prizm for example. There’s a lot of blanket pricing on 9’s without much thought for how difficult it is to get a 10 in a particular set. It is starting to change, but slowly.

I buy 9’s quite often with condition sensitive cards and have not been disappointed with the market appreciation.


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Old 07-20-2020, 05:48 PM   #8023
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Would you rather have:

5 base RC Prizm PSA 10s
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1 silver RC Prizm PSA 10?
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Old 07-20-2020, 05:50 PM   #8024
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Would you rather have:

5 base RC Prizm PSA 10s
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1 silver RC Prizm PSA 10?
c. 8-10 Donruss Optic PSA 10
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Old 07-20-2020, 05:50 PM   #8025
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Would you rather have:

5 base RC Prizm PSA 10s
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1 silver RC Prizm PSA 10?
Silver and it’s not even close.
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