**Official Luka Doncic Thread** - Page 33

RogerGodahell · 11-12-2019, 01:03 PM

The West is just so tough. If you look at teams 1-10 in the standings they're all good. It's gonna be a dogfight for a playoff spot until the end.

Spacemanspif · 11-12-2019, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

Quick game, if you could only hold ONE of each type of Luka, which series would you keep and why:

Basic (Prizm, optic, hoops, etc)
Auto (any of the above, noir, immaculate, etc)
RPA

Basically I’m trying to trim down my collection and I’m having issues deciding on what I really want to keep. I’ve had my Luka spotlight redemption up on eBay for a while and starting to get some healthy offers. Don’t know if there’s much growth potential in sort of a gimmicky auto (no shield) but it may potentially look the coolest.

sorry I posted this quite late last night, I actually meant if you could keep one of each type. I have a lot of his stuff but can't just sit on all of it when there are new things to be purchased. I think what I'm leaning towards (based on what I have already) are:

Basic (Prizm, optic, hoops, etc) - Silver Prizm PSA 10
Auto (any of the above, noir, immaculate, etc) - Noir Showtime (would be great if I could see what it was going to look like though
RPA - Immac RPA Jersey #

Luni · 11-12-2019, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

Quick game, if you could only hold ONE of each type of Luka, which series would you keep and why:

Basic (Prizm, optic, hoops, etc)
Auto (any of the above, noir, immaculate, etc)
RPA

Basically I’m trying to trim down my collection and I’m having issues deciding on what I really want to keep. I’ve had my Luka spotlight redemption up on eBay for a while and starting to get some healthy offers. Don’t know if there’s much growth potential in sort of a gimmicky auto (no shield) but it may potentially look the coolest.

Basic: Optic Holo PSA 10
Auto: Flawless Rookie Autograph Gold /10
RPA: NT /99

Edit: Forgot to add why. Optic Holo above the Prizm because I like the look better and the lower print run. Flawless because it is his actual autograph and the most premium product out there and gold because gold is awesome. Lastly, the NT /99 is the RPA regardless of whether the auto is legit.

RogerGodahell · 11-12-2019, 01:33 PM

I would keep them all honestly. Who else do you see that has a brighter future and are willing to "gamble" on?

It's easy to get caught up in the hype of the latest rookie class. But if you sit back and reflect on how special a player Luka is and the things he's doing already there aren't many comps.

I am in this dilemma myself but for collecting wax not singles. Do i wait and overpay for 2019-20 products because of the Zion hype? Or do i keep buying 18-19 products instead?

Sometimes it's very hard to fight temptation using logic.

KhalDrogo · 11-12-2019, 01:38 PM

2018 has far more depth and superstar potential than 2019.

RogerGodahell · 11-12-2019, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RogerGodahell

I would keep them all honestly. Who else do you see that has a brighter future and are willing to "gamble" on?

It's easy to get caught up in the hype of the latest rookie class. But if you sit back and reflect on how special a player Luka is and the things he's doing already there aren't many comps.

I am in this dilemma myself but for collecting wax not singles. Do i wait and overpay for 2019-20 products because of the Zion hype? Or do i keep buying 18-19 products instead?

Sometimes it's very hard to fight temptation using logic.

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

2018 has far more depth and superstar potential than 2019.

Yes, and that goes for Trae as well i should have mentioned him also. I think just because of those two in particular and there's others as well. But last years rookie class is the best we've seen in a long while. For what they're doing "immediately". It's easy to look back and say "but yeah what about this class?" What many people don't realize is most of the stars in the league right now took 3-4 years to develop. Trae and Luka have burst onto the scene like very few ever have.

ThoseBackPages · 11-12-2019, 01:45 PM

2018 has Luka

Spacemanspif · 11-12-2019, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RogerGodahell

I would keep them all honestly. Who else do you see that has a brighter future and are willing to "gamble" on?

It's easy to get caught up in the hype of the latest rookie class. But if you sit back and reflect on how special a player Luka is and the things he's doing already there aren't many comps.

I am in this dilemma myself but for collecting wax not singles. Do i wait and overpay for 2019-20 products because of the Zion hype? Or do i keep buying 18-19 products instead?

Sometimes it's very hard to fight temptation using logic.

True, obviously he is going to be the player who will have the greatest career when all is said and done. However, cash flow is a thing, and I put a deposit on 2 cases of 2019-20 prizm. To pay for it, it's like... do I sell this one piece of cardboard with a redemption code on it, or do I sell this huge stack of other players? It's tough separating the economics of it from the "but they look cool and I like having them"

RogerGodahell · 11-12-2019, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

True, obviously he is going to be the player who will have the greatest career when all is said and done. However, cash flow is a thing, and I put a deposit on 2 cases of 2019-20 prizm. To pay for it, it's like... do I sell this one piece of cardboard with a redemption code on it, or do I sell this huge stack of other players? It's tough separating the economics of it from the "but they look cool and I like having them"

Yeah i completely understand. It's the dilemma almost every collector goes through, cash flow.

ThoseBackPages · 11-12-2019, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

True, obviously he is going to be the player who will have the greatest career when all is said and done. However, cash flow is a thing, and I put a deposit on 2 cases of 2019-20 prizm. To pay for it, it's like... do I sell this one piece of cardboard with a redemption code on it, or do I sell this huge stack of other players? It's tough separating the economics of it from the "but they look cool and I like having them"

so you are trading Luka for wax?

Spacemanspif · 11-12-2019, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RogerGodahell

Yes, and that goes for Trae as well i should have mentioned him also. I think just because of those two in particular and there's others as well. But last years rookie class is the best we've seen in a long while. For what they're doing "immediately". It's easy to look back and say "but yeah what about this class?" What many people don't realize is most of the stars in the league right now took 3-4 years to develop. Trae and Luka have burst onto the scene like very few ever have.

Yeah I'm a strong believer in this class and only wish I had kept my investments tighter. My belief has been that Luka / Trae / Shai / Bagley are going to be the all stars out of this group, yet I still found a way to buy into some hype on JJJ / MPJ and some money into Sexton. I think even guys like Huerter / Wendell / Shamet will be in the league a long time, and the athletic freaks Miles Bridges and Mitchell Robinson will have moments where they shine

RandyC · 11-12-2019, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

Yeah I'm a strong believer in this class and only wish I had kept my investments tighter. My belief has been that Luka / Trae / Shai / Bagley are going to be the all stars out of this group, yet I still found a way to buy into some hype on JJJ / MPJ and some money into Sexton. I think even guys like Huerter / Wendell / Shamet will be in the league a long time, and the athletic freaks Miles Bridges and Mitchell Robinson will have moments where they shine

So you think Bagley has a chance to be really good, huh? I have so many of this cards, so I hope you're right.

ThoseBackPages · 11-12-2019, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyC

So you think Bagley has a chance to be really good, huh? I have so many of this cards, so I hope you're right.

Good yes, hobby good? Not so much

ThoseBackPages · 11-12-2019, 02:24 PM

on the awesome side, i found a Red Ice i forgot i had lol

dkcardman · 11-12-2019, 02:30 PM

Saw the questions above regarding investing in boxes of 2019 vs 2018. I honestly don't get buying packs or boxes at all. I mean, I can purchase a case of Optic and be happy if I pull a Luka or Trae holo. Or I can buy a Luka and Trae Holo and still have money left over. Possibly enough to buy an optic auto of them both. Singles are always cheaper. It jus means you won't have a chance at the 10k card... well. 10 1k cards are worth the same as a 10k card...

I saw someone bought 10 mega boxes recently on Walmart which gives them a 15 to 20% chance at a Trae ot Luka holo. But if you don't pull one...huge loss. Or take the 400 and buy a Luka Holo. 15 to 20% vs 100%. Same cost. I get it's fun to open packs but if you want a particular card, seems so much more cost effective to just buy the card...

ThoseBackPages · 11-12-2019, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dkcardman

Saw the questions above regarding investing in boxes of 2019 vs 2018. I honestly don't get buying packs or boxes at all. I mean, I can purchase a case of Optic and be happy if I pull a Luka or Trae holo. Or I can buy a Luka and Trae Holo and still have money left over. Possibly enough to buy an optic auto of them both. Singles are always cheaper. It jus means you won't have a chance at the 10k card... well. 10 1k cards are worth the same as a 10k card...

I saw someone bought 10 mega boxes recently on Walmart which gives them a 15 to 20% chance at a Trae ot Luka holo. But if you don't pull one...huge loss. Or take the 400 and buy a Luka Holo. 15 to 20% vs 100%. Same cost. I get it's fun to open packs but if you want a particular card, seems so much more cost effective to just buy the card...

no need to open the wax

Spacemanspif · 11-12-2019, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dkcardman

Saw the questions above regarding investing in boxes of 2019 vs 2018. I honestly don't get buying packs or boxes at all. I mean, I can purchase a case of Optic and be happy if I pull a Luka or Trae holo. Or I can buy a Luka and Trae Holo and still have money left over. Possibly enough to buy an optic auto of them both. Singles are always cheaper. It jus means you won't have a chance at the 10k card... well. 10 1k cards are worth the same as a 10k card...

I saw someone bought 10 mega boxes recently on Walmart which gives them a 15 to 20% chance at a Trae ot Luka holo. But if you don't pull one...huge loss. Or take the 400 and buy a Luka Holo. 15 to 20% vs 100%. Same cost. I get it's fun to open packs but if you want a particular card, seems so much more cost effective to just buy the card...

yeah I get that, but a lot of us also just like opening packs. I actually do both, usually I grab some singles to make sure I have the players I like, and whatever profits I make on flipping singles I end up losing in breaks and opening stuff myself. there's also some value in pulling cards on your own and sending straight to PSA versus taking the word of some random on ebay telling you the card "looks mint"

oh, and btw within those 10 megas that person probably pulled at least one base or pink Luka which can fetch $100+ after grading so they'll get some of their money back. you have to look at it from an ROI perspective, a 20% chance at a $1k card is still worth $200 whether you pull it or not. yes 80% of the time you'll skunk, but when you hit you "saved" $600 or whatever

ThoseBackPages · 11-12-2019, 03:09 PM

math makes my head spin

PKIPP · 11-12-2019, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

on the awesome side, i found a Red Ice i forgot i had lol

Speaking of red ice.. I was thinking today how sweet would a red ice optic parallel look.. I don't think it's gonna happen but I wish.

ThoseBackPages · 11-12-2019, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by PKIPP

Speaking of red ice.. I was thinking today how sweet would a red ice optic parallel look.. I don't think it's gonna happen but I wish.

oh yeaaaaaa!!!!!

hermanotarjeta · 11-12-2019, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dkcardman

Saw the questions above regarding investing in boxes of 2019 vs 2018. I honestly don't get buying packs or boxes at all. I mean, I can purchase a case of Optic and be happy if I pull a Luka or Trae holo. Or I can buy a Luka and Trae Holo and still have money left over. Possibly enough to buy an optic auto of them both. Singles are always cheaper. It jus means you won't have a chance at the 10k card... well. 10 1k cards are worth the same as a 10k card...

I saw someone bought 10 mega boxes recently on Walmart which gives them a 15 to 20% chance at a Trae ot Luka holo. But if you don't pull one...huge loss. Or take the 400 and buy a Luka Holo. 15 to 20% vs 100%. Same cost. I get it's fun to open packs but if you want a particular card, seems so much more cost effective to just buy the card...

Yeah, but if you pull the card yourself, you know it hasn’t been trimmed, buffed and molested. I don’t trust any card I buy regardless of it’s state of slab unless I pull it from a pack myself.

ThoseBackPages · 11-12-2019, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Yeah, but if you pull the card yourself, you know it hasn’t been trimmed, buffed and molested. I don’t trust any card I buy regardless of it’s state of slab unless I pull it from a pack myself.

unless it was done before being packed out

JoeAdam · 11-12-2019, 04:01 PM

Last season I was lucky enough to pick up 4 base prizms and a silver Prizm for relatively cheap. I follow basketball, but not basketball cards as much. Would like to add another Luka to the collection. Thoughts on which card to target?

ThoseBackPages · 11-12-2019, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeAdam

Last season I was lucky enough to pick up 4 base prizms and a silver Prizm for relatively cheap. I follow basketball, but not basketball cards as much. Would like to add another Luka to the collection. Thoughts on which card to target?

Budget? 1K?

Seven Costanza · 11-12-2019, 04:22 PM

I posted a photo of a Luka card I snagged off ebay back on the bottom of page 9.

Didn't know if I wanted to hold or flip..

2018 BGS 9.5 Panini "Black Friday" cracked ice /10

Is this type of card a hold for now? or
is the value "is what it is", and most likely will only draw minimal interest from PC collectors ? Thanks

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KhalDrogo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 41,092	2018 has far more depth and superstar potential than 2019. __________________ I love PSA!

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ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 89,246 ThoseBackPages	on the awesome side, i found a Red Ice i forgot i had lol __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

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ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 89,246 ThoseBackPages	math makes my head spin __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

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JoeAdam Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,994 sjoteo joeadam	Last season I was lucky enough to pick up 4 base prizms and a silver Prizm for relatively cheap. I follow basketball, but not basketball cards as much. Would like to add another Luka to the collection. Thoughts on which card to target? __________________ @the_ace_of_cards on IG “You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take - Wayne Gretzky” - Michael Scott

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RogerGodahell Banned Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Cardboard Enthusiast Posts: 20,783 RogerGodahell	The West is just so tough. If you look at teams 1-10 in the standings they're all good. It's gonna be a dogfight for a playoff spot until the end.

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RogerGodahell Banned Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Cardboard Enthusiast Posts: 20,783 RogerGodahell	I would keep them all honestly. Who else do you see that has a brighter future and are willing to "gamble" on? It's easy to get caught up in the hype of the latest rookie class. But if you sit back and reflect on how special a player Luka is and the things he's doing already there aren't many comps. I am in this dilemma myself but for collecting wax not singles. Do i wait and overpay for 2019-20 products because of the Zion hype? Or do i keep buying 18-19 products instead? Sometimes it's very hard to fight temptation using logic.

11-12-2019, 02:30 PM	#815
dkcardman Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Buford, Ga Posts: 2,519 dkcardman dkcardman	Saw the questions above regarding investing in boxes of 2019 vs 2018. I honestly don't get buying packs or boxes at all. I mean, I can purchase a case of Optic and be happy if I pull a Luka or Trae holo. Or I can buy a Luka and Trae Holo and still have money left over. Possibly enough to buy an optic auto of them both. Singles are always cheaper. It jus means you won't have a chance at the 10k card... well. 10 1k cards are worth the same as a 10k card... I saw someone bought 10 mega boxes recently on Walmart which gives them a 15 to 20% chance at a Trae ot Luka holo. But if you don't pull one...huge loss. Or take the 400 and buy a Luka Holo. 15 to 20% vs 100%. Same cost. I get it's fun to open packs but if you want a particular card, seems so much more cost effective to just buy the card...

11-12-2019, 04:22 PM	#825
Seven Costanza Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: ATL Posts: 714	I posted a photo of a Luka card I snagged off ebay back on the bottom of page 9. Didn't know if I wanted to hold or flip.. 2018 BGS 9.5 Panini "Black Friday" cracked ice /10 Is this type of card a hold for now? or is the value "is what it is", and most likely will only draw minimal interest from PC collectors ? Thanks