WWE Discussion thread- Raw/SD/PPV

[natbornkiller]

Originally Posted by tannercbrown

impact wrestling -- cancelled by spike tv | tmz.com

now
there is no reason to turn to that channel

[Rhyster66]

Time for Aries, Angle and Hardy to come on crawling to the WWE.

[BoxBreaker72]

Originally Posted by Rhyster66

Time for Aries, Angle and Hardy to come on crawling to the WWE.

Angle (If healthy) and Hardy are locks IMO.

Everyone else should be looking for a new line of work.

There is only so much money to make on the indies.

[mma138]

Originally Posted by BoxBreaker72

Angle (If healthy) and Hardy are locks IMO.

Everyone else should be looking for a new line of work.

There is only so much money to make on the indies.

how soon ? when will the last show be ? the last couple were kind of cool. i like the octagon ring. but it realy made me sick seeing dixie carter in the ecw arena ......... who the hell is she anyways ?



im guessing jarrets new promotion is gonna be the alternative ? as far as tv wrestling go's ?

[Jedi1823]

Originally Posted by BoxBreaker72

Angle (If healthy) and Hardy are locks IMO.

The Dudleys are locks. Angle will probably be a trainer or agent, no way with his body is he passing wellness.

I'd say Roode has a great shot. Yeah he's 38, but his body doesn't have the wear and tear than Hardy's or Angle's would, and from reports Trips is a big fan of the guy. Joe also has a shot, he's friends with Cena, and Trips is a fan of the guy.

[BoxBreaker72]

Originally Posted by Jedi1823

The Dudleys are locks. Angle will probably be a trainer or agent, no way with his body is he passing wellness.

I'd say Roode has a great shot. Yeah he's 38, but his body doesn't have the wear and tear than Hardy's or Angle's would, and from reports Trips is a big fan of the guy. Joe also has a shot, he's friends with Cena, and Trips is a fan of the guy.

Dudley's perhaps. Depends what WWE wants to do with the tag team division.

I don't think anyone over 35 that hasn't been in WWE before has a shot. Joe, Roode, Styles and maybe Aries SHOULD get a shot, but I highly doubt they do.

Jeff Jarrett just got a gift placed in his lap if TNA does indeed go out of business. He's starting yet another wrestling promotion and I could see a bunch of these TNA guys going there.

[sjim8660]

I think guys like Aries will go to ROH if the WWE does not want to give them a shot. Although I would love to see Aries in WWE. The WWE can use this as a great chance to get rid of some of their dead weight and bring in legit mid-card guys. Roode could fit into the authority gimmick perfect, he has the look and we all know he can hold his own in a ring. Aries would have great matches against Ziggler and Rollins. The Dudleys could come back just for the pop they would get, but it would be hard seeing them come back and get beat by the Uso's. We all know the Uso's are not even in the same building as the Dudleys. If Angle takes some time off and lets his body heal and only wrestles on a PPV basis he can go for a few more years. I would love to see him and Bryan or Rollins go at it. Or even him and Cena again.

[Michael Miracle]

The only people in TNA who WWE would be interested in that WOULDN'T be asked to go to NXT first are Angle, Bully Ray, and Robert Roode. Maybe Jeff Hardy strictly because of his popularity. I would love to see Samoa Joe, James Storm, Austin Aries, and Magnus in WWE, but I really can't see any of them willing to sign with WWE just to spend a year or more in NXT...

I also hope The Wolves can go back to ROH. Hopefully they didn't burn too many bridges...

This is all assuming that TNA can't find another TV deal of course...lol

[GoJays]

Originally Posted by tannercbrown

Impact Wrestling -- CANCELLED By Spike TV | TMZ.com

Wow, this is shocking news...in 2009!

The product has been horrible since Hogan arrived and got worse after he left. The writing had to be on the walls for whatever idiot runs that shitshow of a company, yet they continued to churn out bad show after bad show.

Good riddance.

[fazzle]

I honestly don't think Jeff Hardy would go back to WWE. By all accounts the reason why he liked working with TNA is because of the fewer amount of dates he had to work and TNA was letting him be free to do all his other weird side stuff (like his bad music and his bad art.)

TNA management may have been bumbling inept fools, but you still have to feel bad for all the workers who are soon to be out of jobs. Bad timing for it too, since WWE is all about cutting costs right now, not adding them.

[jmarascojr]

Angle and Hardy would be welcomed back, although I don't see either playing a major role when it comes to titles.
Angle wants back, Hardy I don't think would go back knowing he'd never be "the man" again, his time has passed.

I think the Dudley's would be invited back behind the scenes, trainers, but that's about it.

Everybody else, it's off to ROH or Jarrett's promotion.
We've seen how WWE treats people like DB and CM Punk that were stars and they didn't make...

KENTA and Prince Devitt will hopefully be different cause mainstream wrestling fans won't know them from another product like ROH or TNA, they could still be seen as "WWE made guys".

[CharlieHustle]

Originally Posted by fazzle

TNA management may have been bumbling inept fools, but you still have to feel bad for all the workers who are soon to be out of jobs.

I disagree.
TALENT doesn't remain unemployed very long. Samoa Joe, Kurt Angle, Jeff Hardy, Austin Aries and Bobby Roode won't even miss a paycheck. They'll be scooped up before their ring gear gets cold. Some of the other guys may sit around for a month or two waiting for the phone to ring, but they'll get back to work eventually. So, I dont feel bad for them. I feel HOPEFUL for them, that they can branch out and flourish in another company that isn't wrought with mismanagement. Roode, Joe and Styles...I feel bad for them IN TNA, because I know they are wasting their prime years working for a company that has no clue on how to make them the massive superstars that they should be.
Budget cuts or not, when TALENT is available, they get signed, as evidenced by Kenta and Prince Devitt signing official deals after the budget cuts were announced (though the moves to sign them were in place well before the budget cuts were announced).
For some of the misplaced TNA guys, leaving will be the best thing that ever happened to them.

*assuming TNA doesn't sign another TV deal*

[Nyfancam01]

TNA going out of business would be great!

anybody who says otherwise hasn't watched TNA in a while.... It used to be AMAZING back in like 2005 or 2006.... It's been bad and I mean AWFUL (immature and embarrassing) for a while!

[Rhyster66]

Cesaro to be a new Authority member or an anti-Authority guy?

Some of the main points of this Raw on WWE.com is "Will HHH let Cesaro join the Authority?

[ricksam]

if wwe does have the money this would make for some must watch tv if they buy out tna .. too bad they are cost cutting all over the place to save money since abandoning ppvs for the network subscribers

if only .. cm punk leads the tna invasion (and maybe they get this invasion angle done better than the wcw one or that awful nwo last one)

a lot of matchups - even if just for video games would be cool ..
samoa joe vs ryback
austin aries vs cena
abyss vs bray wyatt
the new noa (kofi, big e, woods) vs lashley, mvp, king
the knockouts vs divas
lesnar (if he beats cena) vs lashley for the belts

[zachtruitt]

Hardy, Aries, Roode, Magnus, Bully (maybe D-Von) should all sign with WWE. Angle would be a great Legends guy since I think his health is suspect and his best days in the ring are behind him.

An influx of TNA talent along with KENTA and DeVitt would be cool invasion angleBWHAHAHAHAHAHA!
That would never happen!

[Rhyster66]

If Cesaro sides with the Authority, who does he feud with?

A Returning Face Batista?

[fazzle]

Originally Posted by CharlieHustle

I disagree.
TALENT doesn't remain unemployed very long. Samoa Joe, Kurt Angle, Jeff Hardy, Austin Aries and Bobby Roode won't even miss a paycheck. They'll be scooped up before their ring gear gets cold. Some of the other guys may sit around for a month or two waiting for the phone to ring, but they'll get back to work eventually. So, I dont feel bad for them. I feel HOPEFUL for them, that they can branch out and flourish in another company that isn't wrought with mismanagement. Roode, Joe and Styles...I feel bad for them IN TNA, because I know they are wasting their prime years working for a company that has no clue on how to make them the massive superstars that they should be.
Budget cuts or not, when TALENT is available, they get signed, as evidenced by Kenta and Prince Devitt signing official deals after the budget cuts were announced (though the moves to sign them were in place well before the budget cuts were announced).
For some of the misplaced TNA guys, leaving will be the best thing that ever happened to them.

*assuming TNA doesn't sign another TV deal*

Most TNA wrestlers will get picked up SOMEWHERE, but almost all of them will see a serious decrease in pay. The ones who get picked up by WWE will be good, obviously, but the guys who go to the indies will be hurting after a while. TNA didn't pay great (that's an understatement) but it did get them the TV exposure to be a well known name so that they could charge more for their indie bookings. After time that price will eventually start to fall when they start to be less and less important. And what of the non-wrestling personnel in TNA?

[CharlieHustle]

Originally Posted by fazzle

Most TNA wrestlers will get picked up SOMEWHERE, but almost all of them will see a serious decrease in pay. The ones who get picked up by WWE will be good, obviously, but the guys who go to the indies will be hurting after a while. TNA didn't pay great (that's an understatement) but it did get them the TV exposure to be a well known name so that they could charge more for their indie bookings. After time that price will eventually start to fall when they start to be less and less important. And what of the non-wrestling personnel in TNA?

Everybody who was re-signing with TNA was already seeing a "serious" decrease in pay, anyway. AJ Styles recently commented that he's made more in the independent market in 2014, than he would have made re-signing with TNA, because of the pay cut he would have taken.
Yes, the ones who get picked up by WWE, will be fine. They will have exponentially more opportunity than they did with TNA and that's not even a fair comparison. They'd probably make more in merch royalties than they did with their entire TNA contracts. Hyperbole, of course, but you get the point.
As far as indie bookings are concerned, I also see greater potential for wrestlers without the bindings of TNA. Currently, any wrestler in the lower-mid card for TNA is stuck on the TNA house show circuit. Those house shows are doing attendances of 70-200, per show. You think a random indy fed can't atleast pull 70-200 per show? Without being bound to a TNA contract, the wrestlers can accept more indy dates, in front of more fans.
In short (too late), the big names have nothing to worry about and the lesser known names have a chance to get out from under the black mark on their wrestling resume, that is TNA.

Of the non-wrestling personnel, they stand to receive the greatest benefit, being that their "talents" can translate to anywhere else in the entertainment industry. A camera man for TNA isn't limited to being a camera man in the wrestling industry. Same with writers, producers, technical hands, etc.

[CharlieHustle]

Originally Posted by Rhyster66

If Cesaro sides with the Authority, who does he feud with?

A Returning Face Batista?

Kane or Randy Orton will leave The Authority soon. I think it'll be Kane.
So Kane/Cesaro. Also probably Big Show/Cesaro, when Big Show starts making regular appearances again. For the most part, I think Cesaro will only be booked with heavyweights, leading into an eventual feud with Brock Lesnar.
Cesaro will probably turn against the Authority in Feb/March 2015, leading into Cesaro/Triple H at WM31.

[spookytwinkie]

omg. they may be losing a tv deal. doesnt mean their losing their contracted wrestlers. if spike cancels it, its not like were gonna see aries on raw the following monday. theres more to contracts then just tv appearances.

im sure there will be a network to get behind tna if spike doesnt renew. im actually happy to hear it. i think tna needs a better network that will care about the product. spike doesnt and never has. they only advertise on their own channel and did jack to ever promote tna. not only that, they used tna to promote their mma ppvs and shows. even forced mma crossovers.

[sjim8660]

I know people are saying that the WWE is in a cost cutting mode right now and that will prevent them from signing any TNA guys, but signing TNA guys might be their only option to generate more Network subscribers and bring in some new money. They can get rid of some guys to free up some new money.
Guys like:
Curtis Axel (I know some people like him but I would take Roode or an old Angle over him any day),
Great Khali ( I know this will never happen),
ADR (he has really faded and his gimmick has not evolved into anything special, I also know this will never happen).
Alex Riley
Christian
Diego
Fernando
Hunico
titus O'neil
I know these moves will never be made but sometimes some rebuilding has to happen and TNA has the guys who can come in and get people excited about the potential of some new matches.

[Rhyster66]

Originally Posted by CharlieHustle

Kane or Randy Orton will leave The Authority soon. I think it'll be Kane.
So Kane/Cesaro. Also probably Big Show/Cesaro, when Big Show starts making regular appearances again. For the most part, I think Cesaro will only be booked with heavyweights, leading into an eventual feud with Brock Lesnar.
Cesaro will probably turn against the Authority in Feb/March 2015, leading into Cesaro/Triple H at WM31.

Can't simply wait for Big Slow vs Cesaro.. Sigh.

[Rhyster66]

The CHAMP


IS


HEEEEEEERRRRE

[CharlieHustle]

Originally Posted by Rhyster66

Can't simply wait for Big Slow vs Cesaro.. Sigh.

Yeah, I agree, but consider Cesaro on the back burner until Reigns gets his title.