Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer - Page 3535

1000 Sport Zonk · 06-28-2021, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BabaORiley

There's a wide gulf between "players already chosen" and Eric Gagne-caliber players. Look at the list of HOFers without a card, 80's star non-HOFers without a card (Eric Davis, Dale Murphy being two that I know have pretty extensive fanbases), or various eccentric guys (think Mark Fidrych types). There's also a pretty significant chunk of guys who have 1 BAD card who deserve at least 1 DECENT card (MADDUX!!!)

None of the four guys you mentioned would sell well at this point anyways. A fourth Tommy Lasorda Mgr. card only sold 57 less than Tim Raines, and only 284 less than the first and only Greg Maddux.

Oliroller · 06-28-2021, 01:57 PM

No one is going to sell well at this point other than Tatis, Acuna, Vlad and maybe Ohtani...and Pardee

80s Kid · 06-28-2021, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by skee

Really had a lot of fun creating this one!

Front inspiration is Jujutsu Kaisen soundtrack album cover (which fits since face is split, and Ohtani is a two-way player). His walkout song is from this, and it is his favorite show (and won Anime of the Year Award in 2021):

The back is inspired by the music video / Jujutsu Kasien show outro "Lost In Paradise" that plays at the end of every episode. Here is a link to the original music video for it- you will notice the art style is the bold colors with scribble used on the back of the card.

Thought it would be fun and made sense for the only current two-way player to have two sides, with the front being the show intro style and the back being the outro style. Lots of hidden Jujutsu Kaisen elements, and of course the blending of Tokyo with the big A from Anaheim.

A little more broken down about making the card and the story in the video here on djskee.com if you want to see more!

Thanks for stopping by with the explanation. Could have used you for the Bad Bunny discussion, lol.

Oliroller · 06-28-2021, 02:08 PM

Lauren Taylor has nice PRs too. If you can break 3K on another Gwynn card and 5K on another Griffey at this point, that is impressive.

skee · 06-28-2021, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 80s Kid

Thanks for stopping by with the explanation. Could have used you for the Bad Bunny discussion, lol.

haha the Tatis one is , but in essence, Bad Bunny is Tatis' fav artist (and possibly the biggest artist on the globe right now- both are "breaking the unwritten rules" of each biz and the old guard who dislike them)- so paired it with one of his album covers that just looks incredible regardless of music tie in. Lots of hidden gems- references from other Bad Bunny albums (and the bunny in ground), license plate, bat, BMW (Tatis did a BMW commercial) his tattoo (palm tree and coordinates), and more... and the video game tie in comes from a combo of this: Bad Bunny's visuals for this album had a kid playing video games, Tatis is on the cover of MLB the Show 21 (Same image), and I hit up my friends at Xbox to make a special controller to giveaway since it is first time The Show is on Xbox and they actually made 10 we gave away to winners for fun... oh and Trevor Bauer is in background too haha

Also the playlist/show on Spotify really gets in the weeds

All of my cards will have a ton of storytelling behind them because I like to really dive deep - even on things, you won't necessarily see. Hope you guys enjoy it,

VinnyH · 06-28-2021, 02:34 PM

Sorry, I get confused easily...

Can I use my Topps Now rewards points to purchase Project70 cards?
I'll write the answer down this time.

Thanks,
Vinny

BigEd · 06-28-2021, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliroller

Eric Gagne will challenge that Sax PR

It's Don C, so I expect it to do a bit better.

Quote:

Originally Posted by VinnyH

Sorry, I get confused easily...

Can I use my Topps Now rewards points to purchase Project70 cards?
I'll write the answer down this time.

Thanks,
Vinny

Unfortunately, no.

VinnyH · 06-28-2021, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BigEd

It's Don C, so I expect it to do a bit better.
Unfortunately, no.

Thanks Big Ed, I thought that was the answer. I didn't want to put 5 cards in my cart then realize I can't.
Best Always,
Vinny

vermonty · 06-28-2021, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliroller

No one is going to sell well at this point other than Tatis, Acuna, Vlad and maybe Ohtani...and Pardee

I think depending how wide a net you want to cast, Trout, Soto, Griffey and Mantle belong on this short list.

But we already have too many of them. It's a near certainty we get multiple cards of all these players in the next 700 cards, regardless of my own preferences.

So, since PRs aren't going to budge too much, why don't artists make unique, creative choices instead of the same old boring repeats? It's not like they have a lot to lose. Kudos to the artists who had the guts to choose Gagne, Rizzuto, Raines, Sax, Baker, etc.

JRX · 06-28-2021, 03:10 PM

The problem is 51 artists is too much. Or should I say 51 artists doing 20 cards each is too much. Maybe have them each do 7, but then the revenue projections wouldn't be as strong. This whole project will be a great business case study.

1000 Sport Zonk · 06-28-2021, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by vermonty

I think depending how wide a net you want to cast, Trout, Soto, Griffey and Mantle belong on this short list.

But we already have too many of them. It's a near certainty we get multiple cards of all these players in the next 700 cards, regardless of my own preferences.

So, since PRs aren't going to budge too much, why don't artists make unique, creative choices instead of the same old boring repeats? It's not like they have a lot to lose. Kudos to the artists who had the guts to choose Gagne, Rizzuto, Raines, Sax, Baker, etc.

The last Soto was sub-1000, and the last five Mantles have all been sub-2500. So yeah id say just go with the small handful of safe bets and then whomever you damn well please.

ThoseBackPages · 06-28-2021, 03:25 PM

i would like to see Topps allow the contributors dip into the other franchises that Topps is allowed to make in 2021 to wrap up this debacle of a release

GPK
Soccer
UFC
Star Wars

Mix it up.

and im not talking weird like Pardee, im talking let the contributors use:

Adam Bomb
Messi
Darth Vader
etc

Silas Barnaby · 06-28-2021, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

i would like to see Topps allow the contributors dip into the other franchises that Topps is allowed to make in 2021 to wrap up this debacle of a release

GPK
Soccer
UFC
Star Wars

Mix it up.

and im not talking weird like Pardee, im talking let the contributors use:

Adam Bomb
Messi
Darth Vader
etc

I want 51 Baby Yodas!

GeddyCardsForum · 06-28-2021, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VinnyH

Sorry, I get confused easily...

Can I use my Topps Now rewards points to purchase Project70 cards?
I'll write the answer down this time.

Thanks,
Vinny

Small world, but I used to go to B&E when I was a kid living in Valhalla, NY. Great memories there.

GeddyCardsForum · 06-28-2021, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skee

Really had a lot of fun creating this one!

Front inspiration is Jujutsu Kaisen soundtrack album cover (which fits since face is split, and Ohtani is a two-way player). His walkout song is from this, and it is his favorite show (and won Anime of the Year Award in 2021):

The back is inspired by the music video / Jujutsu Kasien show outro "Lost In Paradise" that plays at the end of every episode. Here is a link to the original music video for it- you will notice the art style is the bold colors with scribble used on the back of the card.

Thought it would be fun and made sense for the only current two-way player to have two sides, with the front being the show intro style and the back being the outro style. Lots of hidden Jujutsu Kaisen elements, and of course the blending of Tokyo with the big A from Anaheim.

A little more broken down about making the card and the story in the video here on djskee.com if you want to see more!

I just got your Tatis p70. Solid design and love the bonus music deep dive content on the back. Keep up the great work!

ThoseBackPages · 06-28-2021, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by silas barnaby

i want 51 baby yodas!

niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice!!!!!!!

kevbojones · 06-28-2021, 06:22 PM

With so many cards left they might as well mix it up

102 GPKs
102 Star Wars
102 UFC
102 Soccer
102 other classic non sports cards

and you could still crank out some more baseball too and wrappers as well

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

i would like to see Topps allow the contributors dip into the other franchises that Topps is allowed to make in 2021 to wrap up this debacle of a release

GPK
Soccer
UFC
Star Wars

Mix it up.

and im not talking weird like Pardee, im talking let the contributors use:

Adam Bomb
Messi
Darth Vader
etc

WhacksPacks · 06-28-2021, 07:02 PM

It’s been mostly negative on here lately but my Styles and Pardee runs are still going. Braves from other artists I’m picking up for a fraction the price elsewhere.
That said

I got my first foil EVER and it’s a good one.
Maybe they threw me a bone since I’m doing the Styles run but damn these things look great in person. Also it was my 70th card but probably just a coincidence on both.
Felt like a kid again though, not gonna lie.

Buy what you like. Hold on to what you love.
Cheers all!

Silas Barnaby · 06-28-2021, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

i would like to see Topps allow the contributors dip into the other franchises that Topps is allowed to make in 2021 to wrap up this debacle of a release

GPK
Soccer
UFC
Star Wars

Mix it up.

and im not talking weird like Pardee, im talking let the contributors use:

Adam Bomb
Messi
Darth Vader
etc

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevbojones

With so many cards left they might as well mix it up

102 GPKs
102 Star Wars
102 UFC
102 Soccer
102 other classic non sports cards

and you could still crank out some more baseball too and wrappers as well

rms13 · 06-28-2021, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

i would like to see Topps allow the contributors dip into the other franchises that Topps is allowed to make in 2021 to wrap up this debacle of a release

GPK
Soccer
UFC
Star Wars

Mix it up.

and im not talking weird like Pardee, im talking let the contributors use:

Adam Bomb
Messi
Darth Vader
etc

Topps doesn't have UFC license anymore

Oliroller · 06-28-2021, 07:09 PM

Congrats on the foil! Glad it was a Styles for you. Like to see people get foils of artists or players they are actually collecting.

Silas Barnaby · 06-28-2021, 07:11 PM

Steve Sax could not have been on a list of suggested players that Topps provided to the artists, correct?

Oliroller · 06-28-2021, 07:12 PM

Topps can do wrestling right? Let's see a Pardee Undertaker

StonedCollector · 06-28-2021, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliroller

Topps can do wrestling right? Let's see a Pardee Undertaker

a pardee wwe set would be something i would buy alot of. i have never bought wrestling cards before, but pardee is the gimmick that would do it for me.

Oliroller · 06-28-2021, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by StonedCollector

a pardee wwe set would be something i would buy alot of. i have never bought wrestling cards before, but pardee is the gimmick that would do it for me.

I think a wrestling set would be right in his wheelhouse.

06-28-2021, 02:34 PM	#88356
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06-28-2021, 03:25 PM	#88362
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 89,900 ThoseBackPages	i would like to see Topps allow the contributors dip into the other franchises that Topps is allowed to make in 2021 to wrap up this debacle of a release GPK Soccer UFC Star Wars Mix it up. and im not talking weird like Pardee, im talking let the contributors use: Adam Bomb Messi Darth Vader etc __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

06-28-2021, 07:02 PM	#88368
WhacksPacks Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 5,234 WhacksPacks	It’s been mostly negative on here lately but my Styles and Pardee runs are still going. Braves from other artists I’m picking up for a fraction the price elsewhere. That said I got my first foil EVER and it’s a good one. Maybe they threw me a bone since I’m doing the Styles run but damn these things look great in person. Also it was my 70th card but probably just a coincidence on both. Felt like a kid again though, not gonna lie. Buy what you like. Hold on to what you love. Cheers all! __________________ Buy what you like. Hold on to what you love. Last edited by WhacksPacks; 06-28-2021 at 07:05 PM.

06-28-2021, 01:57 PM	#88352
Oliroller Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 4,031	No one is going to sell well at this point other than Tatis, Acuna, Vlad and maybe Ohtani...and Pardee

06-28-2021, 02:08 PM	#88354
Oliroller Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 4,031	Lauren Taylor has nice PRs too. If you can break 3K on another Gwynn card and 5K on another Griffey at this point, that is impressive.

06-28-2021, 03:10 PM	#88360
JRX Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 15,744	The problem is 51 artists is too much. Or should I say 51 artists doing 20 cards each is too much. Maybe have them each do 7, but then the revenue projections wouldn't be as strong. This whole project will be a great business case study.

06-28-2021, 07:09 PM	#88371
Oliroller Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 4,031	Congrats on the foil! Glad it was a Styles for you. Like to see people get foils of artists or players they are actually collecting.

06-28-2021, 07:11 PM	#88372
Silas Barnaby Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Bogeyland Posts: 8,237	Steve Sax could not have been on a list of suggested players that Topps provided to the artists, correct?

06-28-2021, 07:12 PM	#88373
Oliroller Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 4,031	Topps can do wrestling right? Let's see a Pardee Undertaker