Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer - Page 3547

ThoseBackPages · 07-01-2021, 09:43 AM

you realize that Tyson has made many Fire cards over the years, correct?

Shinjoy · 07-01-2021, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

you realize that Tyson has made many Fire cards over the years, correct?

Really??? Now you tell me!?!?!?

Through his previous, what, 26 project cards he's done a decent job of distinguishing the two sets. I don't look at his Gooden, Ohtani, George Brett, Cal Ripken, etc cards and think it's a Fire card, even if the style is clearly Beck's in both. This one, if it didn't have the P70 case, I'd think it's a Fire card.

If you disagree, show me an example instead of blubbering sarcasm.

80s Kid · 07-01-2021, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Shinjoy

Really??? Now you tell me!?!?!?

Through his previous, what, 26 project cards he's done a decent job of distinguishing the two sets. I don't look at his Gooden, Ohtani, George Brett, Cal Ripken, etc cards and think it's a Fire card, even if the style is clearly Beck's in both. This one, if it didn't have the P70 case, I'd think it's a Fire card.

If you disagree, show me an example instead of blubbering sarcasm.

On the bright side, if someone wanted a small Acuna Topps Fire display, the cards go together well. And they can buy all the other raw Topps Fire cards for less than the Project 70 one.

MarsAttacks · 07-01-2021, 09:54 AM

Dang this Jeter sold out quickly and is a really cool looking card.

https://www.topps.com/cards-collecti...oof-to-51.html

BH34 · 07-01-2021, 09:58 AM

I REALLY like that Acuna card today, one of the best looking cards in a long while. Bummed that I didn't bother checking which cards were releasing today, so had no shot at the AP. Oh well.

I agree that it exudes Topps Fire design elements, but I wouldn't think of that as a negative. Tyson is one of (or only?) artist in Project who had actual card design on his resume/cv, many (all?) other artists do not.

I mention that because on more than one occasion, we've wondered why artists did not 'stick to their style' for Project that was more like their previous/actual work, Brittany Palmer comes to mind, but there are others. Tyson Beck does it, and we 'criticize' the similarity..

Full disclaimer: yes, of course I'm biased because I heart Acuna and love Bat Down and back of jersey images (even if its not THE bat down image).

ThoseBackPages · 07-01-2021, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Shinjoy

Really??? Now you tell me!?!?!?

Through his previous, what, 26 project cards he's done a decent job of distinguishing the two sets. I don't look at his Gooden, Ohtani, George Brett, Cal Ripken, etc cards and think it's a Fire card, even if the style is clearly Beck's in both. This one, if it didn't have the P70 case, I'd think it's a Fire card.

If you disagree, show me an example instead of blubbering sarcasm.

oh, i dont disagree at all. but you seem shocked he would revert to what he knows

its a nice card, but should be priced like a Topps Fire base card

davebo · 07-01-2021, 10:25 AM

I bought a Schmidt AP. Favorite player growing up at a reduced cost. My only wish is that he would have captured the Liberty Bell in there since they had one in Veterans Stadium that lit up and when he hit a HR.

ObanMontecristo · 07-01-2021, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by davebo

I bought a Schmidt AP. Favorite player growing up at a reduced cost. My only wish is that he would have captured the Liberty Bell in there since they had one in Veterans Stadium that lit up and when he hit a HR.

ditto!

BabaORiley · 07-01-2021, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

$10 each, 4 for $30

I had $12 each, 4 for $36 but $9.99 each/4 for $29.99 would be a sound psychological pricing strategy. Print runs would triple in short time and maybe some momentum could be built.

cnote81 · 07-01-2021, 11:13 AM

I've been pretty down on McCormick but I'll admit I kind of like that Jeter. The Acuna is great looking. It doesn't subvert my expectations for a baseball card but it doesn't have to.

omega145 · 07-01-2021, 11:25 AM

Solid 4 cards today.

That Bo Jackson is a better version of Action Bronson's Mattingly. My only problem with that Bo Jackson is that huge Undefeated circle taking up way too much space on the card.

Silas Barnaby · 07-01-2021, 11:29 AM

King Saladeen's Harper and Schmidt pair together nicely if someone wants to do a Philly mini-set.

Silas Barnaby · 07-01-2021, 11:31 AM

The McCormick Jeter just looks blurry to me.

StonedCollector · 07-01-2021, 11:33 AM

lol, any predictions on the game over print run?

goodsport97 · 07-01-2021, 11:35 AM

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lol, any predictions on the game over print run?

I'll go with 742

StonedCollector · 07-01-2021, 11:44 AM

i think it will either be under 700 or over 1200.

Timsterino · 07-01-2021, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Shinjoy

America needs this. Today should be an all-Mets day. So many legends haven't been in the set: Greg Jefferies, Marv Throneberry, Colon, Tsuyoshi Shinjo.

Our definitions of Mets legends are definitely not in sync…

Silas Barnaby · 07-01-2021, 12:18 PM

4 for 16 this week.

What is tomorrow?

dodgersinfinity · 07-01-2021, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Silas Barnaby

4 for 16 this week.

What is tomorrow?

Distortedd

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ThoseBackPages · 07-01-2021, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Silas Barnaby

King Saladeen's Harper and Schmidt pair together nicely if someone wants to do a Philly mini-set.

is the harper under $10 yet on eBay?

Oliroller · 07-01-2021, 12:21 PM

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Finally! Is it Soto?

Bob Ross · 07-01-2021, 12:37 PM

When did prices change on AP's? I'm out of the loop.

Silas Barnaby · 07-01-2021, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

is the harper under $10 yet on eBay?

Yes, it is.

80s Kid · 07-01-2021, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Ross

When did prices change on AP's? I'm out of the loop.

Today! So only a few hours out of the loop.

vermonty · 07-01-2021, 12:53 PM

Good selection of cards today, despite being all repeat players.

I don't love the Bo but I do like the 1989 design.

The Jeter looks like "generic infielder", but a nice design nonetheless. I am actually enjoying the Matt McCormick set.

The Acuna is funny to me because it reminds me of chants of "it's over" from posters here. Doesn't hurt that it's a good looking card, too, which is a plus because for me, Tyson Beck has been inconsistent.

The Schmidt is ok. Doesn't set the world on fire for me, but not immediately rejecting it like several King Saladeen cards.

Re: changing up pricing...all good for AP tweaks. I'd rather save a little money for APs of artists and players that I may like that aren't that popular. On the flipside, a higher price for more popular artists and players may plant enough doubt that it will be easier to buy some of those that I want before they sell out.

I find it's doubtful that they lower base pricing at all for the print-on-demand product. I am concerned if they do, it will devalue ALL the cards in the set [and Project 2020] should I ever want to sell.

07-01-2021, 09:43 AM	#88651
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 90,091 ThoseBackPages	you realize that Tyson has made many Fire cards over the years, correct? __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

07-01-2021, 09:58 AM	#88655
BH34 Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 1,290	I REALLY like that Acuna card today, one of the best looking cards in a long while. Bummed that I didn't bother checking which cards were releasing today, so had no shot at the AP. Oh well. I agree that it exudes Topps Fire design elements, but I wouldn't think of that as a negative. Tyson is one of (or only?) artist in Project who had actual card design on his resume/cv, many (all?) other artists do not. I mention that because on more than one occasion, we've wondered why artists did not 'stick to their style' for Project that was more like their previous/actual work, Brittany Palmer comes to mind, but there are others. Tyson Beck does it, and we 'criticize' the similarity.. Full disclaimer: yes, of course I'm biased because I heart Acuna and love Bat Down and back of jersey images (even if its not THE bat down image). __________________ Let's Go Mets Go

07-01-2021, 10:25 AM	#88657
davebo Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bridgewater, NJ Posts: 1,930	I bought a Schmidt AP. Favorite player growing up at a reduced cost. My only wish is that he would have captured the Liberty Bell in there since they had one in Veterans Stadium that lit up and when he hit a HR. __________________ Follow me on Twitter @boxscorebreaks

07-01-2021, 09:54 AM	#88654
MarsAttacks Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 316	Dang this Jeter sold out quickly and is a really cool looking card. https://www.topps.com/cards-collecti...oof-to-51.html

07-01-2021, 11:13 AM	#88660
cnote81 Member Join Date: Oct 2020 Posts: 1,256	I've been pretty down on McCormick but I'll admit I kind of like that Jeter. The Acuna is great looking. It doesn't subvert my expectations for a baseball card but it doesn't have to.

07-01-2021, 11:25 AM	#88661
omega145 Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 635 war_hero	Solid 4 cards today. That Bo Jackson is a better version of Action Bronson's Mattingly. My only problem with that Bo Jackson is that huge Undefeated circle taking up way too much space on the card.

07-01-2021, 11:29 AM	#88662
Silas Barnaby Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Bogeyland Posts: 8,238	King Saladeen's Harper and Schmidt pair together nicely if someone wants to do a Philly mini-set.

07-01-2021, 11:31 AM	#88663
Silas Barnaby Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Bogeyland Posts: 8,238	The McCormick Jeter just looks blurry to me.

07-01-2021, 11:33 AM	#88664
StonedCollector Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 679	lol, any predictions on the game over print run?

07-01-2021, 11:44 AM	#88666
StonedCollector Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 679	i think it will either be under 700 or over 1200.

07-01-2021, 12:18 PM	#88668
Silas Barnaby Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Bogeyland Posts: 8,238	4 for 16 this week. What is tomorrow?

07-01-2021, 12:37 PM	#88672
Bob Ross Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 5,243	When did prices change on AP's? I'm out of the loop.

07-01-2021, 12:53 PM	#88675
vermonty Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,392	Good selection of cards today, despite being all repeat players. I don't love the Bo but I do like the 1989 design. The Jeter looks like "generic infielder", but a nice design nonetheless. I am actually enjoying the Matt McCormick set. The Acuna is funny to me because it reminds me of chants of "it's over" from posters here. Doesn't hurt that it's a good looking card, too, which is a plus because for me, Tyson Beck has been inconsistent. The Schmidt is ok. Doesn't set the world on fire for me, but not immediately rejecting it like several King Saladeen cards. Re: changing up pricing...all good for AP tweaks. I'd rather save a little money for APs of artists and players that I may like that aren't that popular. On the flipside, a higher price for more popular artists and players may plant enough doubt that it will be easier to buy some of those that I want before they sell out. I find it's doubtful that they lower base pricing at all for the print-on-demand product. I am concerned if they do, it will devalue ALL the cards in the set [and Project 2020] should I ever want to sell.