WWE Discussion thread- Raw/SD/PPV - Page 356

geoffyb · 08-09-2014, 09:06 PM

I personally thought HBK in the 90s was terrible. Spend 20 mins getting beat up bouncing around then come back and pull out the victory. It was the old Ric Flair method and some of the same moves and reactions as well. I realize that is what a lot of wrestlers do but I just could not stand HBK or Flair. I feel the same way about watching Bret Hart. Something about his over-the-top mouth breathing just drove me nuts. I would take any one of those Cena matches over a mid 90s Raw or HBK match.

sjim8660 · 08-09-2014, 09:29 PM

HBK, for example 1995, was in amazing condition and his personality really helped WWE go into the attitude era. He did seem like a big jerk but his matches were top notch. The mid 90's was an era that was very top heavy. You had the big 5 in "WWF", Razor (Hall version of course), Michaels, Bret, Owen and Undertaker. Outside of those 5 guys the rest of the roster was a bit weak. When Razor and Michaels had their feud, that was amazing wrestling. I did like Yokozuna, but I thought if he slimmed up a little he could of moved better and his stamina could have improved but we all know Vince likes guys with a certain look and he is willing to sacrifice mobility.

mikecamp99 · 08-09-2014, 11:52 PM

Another reason I'm believing more and more this is a work.

WWE Twitter Account Lashes Out At Alberto Del Rio, Triple H Retweets Message - WrestlingInc.com

Why would WWE's twitter go out of their way to spout off about a guy who got "fired". Unless Del Rio completely kicked the $hit out of the guy, I can't see a simple slap/punch or shove getting a guy kicked out of the WWE. A lot of guys have done worse things in the past and stayed with the company.

BoxBreaker72 · 08-10-2014, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mikecamp99

Another reason I'm believing more and more this is a work.

WWE Twitter Account Lashes Out At Alberto Del Rio, Triple H Retweets Message - WrestlingInc.com

Why would WWE's twitter go out of their way to spout off about a guy who got "fired". Unless Del Rio completely kicked the $hit out of the guy, I can't see a simple slap/punch or shove getting a guy kicked out of the WWE. A lot of guys have done worse things in the past and stayed with the company.

This company is just lost. It's so sad to see what it's become.

ricksam · 08-10-2014, 07:00 AM

1st that diva shoplifting fired / not fired incident
now ADR and the wwe twitter

meanwhile orton and his bullying comments on twitter go unpunished
there is the storyline stephanie mcmahon bullying of bellas, daniel bryan
ryback was bullying alot of non-wrestlers for several weeks (shown on tv segments)
the Authority is one big bullying group every week

so if ADR was fired .. then a lot more should be too

mikecamp99 · 08-10-2014, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricksam

1st that diva shoplifting fired / not fired incident
now ADR and the wwe twitter

meanwhile orton and his bullying comments on twitter go unpunished
there is the storyline stephanie mcmahon bullying of bellas, daniel bryan
ryback was bullying alot of non-wrestlers for several weeks (shown on tv segments)
the Authority is one big bullying group every week

so if ADR was fired .. then a lot more should be too

Exactly, and if ADR is really let to because of this, Randy orton should have been fired a hell of a long time ago the guy is a dick and has bullied many wwe people in the past, and not only that but his constant drug abuse that's led to multiple suspensions. Huge double standards in the WWE.

mnvikingstwins · 08-10-2014, 10:46 AM

Dolph beat Orton clean at a house show

geoffyb · 08-10-2014, 12:08 PM

Gotta love house shows. I once saw Goldust beat hbk for the title at a house show. Then some time after I saw Jerichos very last wcw match at a house show. He announced he was leaving wcw and e locker room all came out and hugged him.

hreed2 · 08-11-2014, 11:06 AM

I went to a pretty good Indy show on Saturday called "Wrestlefest 5" and got to see a lot of former big names. Nash, XPac, Booker T, Kurt Angle, DDP, Al Snow, Abyss, Rhyno, Sabu, 2 Cool and a few others were there. I'm only posting about this because some people were talking about Angle maybe going back to the WWE and he was moving around really poorly, it was actually sad to see. He came to the ring to a standing ovation and thanked everybody for showing up and supporting him and promised that when he's healthy he'll be wrestling again and you could just tell that the crowd knew it was a bad idea. Side note, XPac has put on a lot of weight and Rhyno and Sabu both look awful now. Somebody came out with a mask on to help a face win the match and afterwards he took off the mask and it was DDP, biggest pop of the night since he wasn't even advertised to be there!

fazzle · 08-11-2014, 12:04 PM

So in news that I'm sure will make some people really happy, CM Punk *is* going to be in WWE 2k15, and will be heavily featured as one of the modes will be centered around the Punk/Cena rivalry.

http://www.gameinformer.com/games/ww...tory-mode.aspx

DCN12586 · 08-11-2014, 12:32 PM

Any chance Sting makes an appearance tonight?

CharlieHustle · 08-11-2014, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCN12586

Any chance Sting makes an appearance tonight?

I wont commit to saying "no", but it would be weird/stupid of WWE to concentrate on Hogan's birthday/Nwo Reunion/Sting, with this being the last Raw before Summerslam. They should be concentrating on building up the matches for the PPV and I dont see how Sting/Hogan/Nwo tie in with Summerslam.
That said, the in ring "celebrations" are always used to generate storyline, so we'll see what happens from here.

Rhyster66 · 08-11-2014, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fazzle

So in news that I'm sure will make some people really happy, CM Punk *is* going to be in WWE 2k15, and will be heavily featured as one of the modes will be centered around the Punk/Cena rivalry.

CM Punk Stars In New WWE 2K15 Story Mode - WWE 2K15 - PlayStation 4 - www.GameInformer.com

*does the worm*

natbornkiller · 08-11-2014, 04:02 PM

whats the over under on the number of wwe network plugs tonight ?
same question the app plugs too

mnvikingstwins · 08-11-2014, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natbornkiller

whats the over under on the number of wwe network plugs tonight ?
same question the app plugs too

Thinking we get another match that finishes on app

ricksam · 08-11-2014, 04:39 PM

good thing the tout application seems to have died quietly ..
otherwise wwe would have the near fall on the wwe app .. and the finish on tout

BoxBreaker72 · 08-11-2014, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natbornkiller

whats the over under on the number of wwe network plugs tonight ?
same question the app plugs too

Can't possibly be worse than last week, can it?

raydawg24 · 08-11-2014, 05:10 PM

What are we supposed to expect this raw?

BoxBreaker72 · 08-11-2014, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raydawg24

What are we supposed to expect this raw?

BAAROCKKKKK LEEEEESNAR wrecks the Hogan birthday bash.

Rhyster66 · 08-11-2014, 05:18 PM

This raw seems slightly interesting

Ever so slightly.

Rhyster66 · 08-11-2014, 07:01 PM

Welp here comes the pain.

geoffyb · 08-11-2014, 07:09 PM

Here comes the nap. Wake me up when heyman is done boring everyone.

7jacfire · 08-11-2014, 07:09 PM

I hope Hogan doesn't plug the WWE Network. I wouldn't be surprised if this happens though, as everyone is plugging it nowadays.

mnvikingstwins · 08-11-2014, 07:10 PM

Paul Heyman, doctor of thuganomics.

geoffyb · 08-11-2014, 07:11 PM

Why do they keep doing close ups on lesnars dumb looking face?

08-09-2014, 11:52 PM	#8878
mikecamp99 Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Minnesota Posts: 7,160 mdcamp1120	Another reason I'm believing more and more this is a work. WWE Twitter Account Lashes Out At Alberto Del Rio, Triple H Retweets Message - WrestlingInc.com Why would WWE's twitter go out of their way to spout off about a guy who got "fired". Unless Del Rio completely kicked the $hit out of the guy, I can't see a simple slap/punch or shove getting a guy kicked out of the WWE. A lot of guys have done worse things in the past and stayed with the company. __________________ INCOMING:

08-10-2014, 07:00 AM	#8880
ricksam Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: USA Posts: 5,791 ricksam	1st that diva shoplifting fired / not fired incident now ADR and the wwe twitter meanwhile orton and his bullying comments on twitter go unpunished there is the storyline stephanie mcmahon bullying of bellas, daniel bryan ryback was bullying alot of non-wrestlers for several weeks (shown on tv segments) the Authority is one big bullying group every week so if ADR was fired .. then a lot more should be too __________________ Way behind to respond to pm deal offers FS/T: sketch cards, GCs \| USA, comc addr, pp ONLY W: http://cardbucket.blogspot.com/p/wants.html \| PC: HOFers

08-11-2014, 04:02 PM	#8889
natbornkiller Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: bkNY Posts: 22,805	whats the over under on the number of wwe network plugs tonight ? same question the app plugs too __________________ HAH HAH I STILL HAS THE RIGHT TO EDIT THIS !:eatit:

08-11-2014, 04:39 PM	#8891
ricksam Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: USA Posts: 5,791 ricksam	good thing the tout application seems to have died quietly .. otherwise wwe would have the near fall on the wwe app .. and the finish on tout __________________ Way behind to respond to pm deal offers FS/T: sketch cards, GCs \| USA, comc addr, pp ONLY W: http://cardbucket.blogspot.com/p/wants.html \| PC: HOFers

08-11-2014, 05:10 PM	#8893
raydawg24 Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,812 mat7061	What are we supposed to expect this raw? __________________

08-09-2014, 09:06 PM	#8876
geoffyb Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 3,159	I personally thought HBK in the 90s was terrible. Spend 20 mins getting beat up bouncing around then come back and pull out the victory. It was the old Ric Flair method and some of the same moves and reactions as well. I realize that is what a lot of wrestlers do but I just could not stand HBK or Flair. I feel the same way about watching Bret Hart. Something about his over-the-top mouth breathing just drove me nuts. I would take any one of those Cena matches over a mid 90s Raw or HBK match.

08-09-2014, 09:29 PM	#8877
sjim8660 Banned Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: TN Posts: 3,691	HBK, for example 1995, was in amazing condition and his personality really helped WWE go into the attitude era. He did seem like a big jerk but his matches were top notch. The mid 90's was an era that was very top heavy. You had the big 5 in "WWF", Razor (Hall version of course), Michaels, Bret, Owen and Undertaker. Outside of those 5 guys the rest of the roster was a bit weak. When Razor and Michaels had their feud, that was amazing wrestling. I did like Yokozuna, but I thought if he slimmed up a little he could of moved better and his stamina could have improved but we all know Vince likes guys with a certain look and he is willing to sacrifice mobility.

08-10-2014, 10:46 AM	#8882
mnvikingstwins Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 42,190 ski_4 ski_4	Dolph beat Orton clean at a house show

08-10-2014, 12:08 PM	#8883
geoffyb Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 3,159	Gotta love house shows. I once saw Goldust beat hbk for the title at a house show. Then some time after I saw Jerichos very last wcw match at a house show. He announced he was leaving wcw and e locker room all came out and hugged him.

08-11-2014, 11:06 AM	#8884
hreed2 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,579	I went to a pretty good Indy show on Saturday called "Wrestlefest 5" and got to see a lot of former big names. Nash, XPac, Booker T, Kurt Angle, DDP, Al Snow, Abyss, Rhyno, Sabu, 2 Cool and a few others were there. I'm only posting about this because some people were talking about Angle maybe going back to the WWE and he was moving around really poorly, it was actually sad to see. He came to the ring to a standing ovation and thanked everybody for showing up and supporting him and promised that when he's healthy he'll be wrestling again and you could just tell that the crowd knew it was a bad idea. Side note, XPac has put on a lot of weight and Rhyno and Sabu both look awful now. Somebody came out with a mask on to help a face win the match and afterwards he took off the mask and it was DDP, biggest pop of the night since he wasn't even advertised to be there!

08-11-2014, 12:04 PM	#8885
fazzle Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 3,667 mjprz	So in news that I'm sure will make some people really happy, CM Punk is going to be in WWE 2k15, and will be heavily featured as one of the modes will be centered around the Punk/Cena rivalry. http://www.gameinformer.com/games/ww...tory-mode.aspx

08-11-2014, 12:32 PM	#8886
DCN12586 Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Daphne, Alabama Posts: 4,229 DCN12586	Any chance Sting makes an appearance tonight?

08-11-2014, 05:18 PM	#8895
Rhyster66 Inactive Account Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 5,304 Davidg1972	This raw seems slightly interesting Ever so slightly.

08-11-2014, 07:01 PM	#8896
Rhyster66 Inactive Account Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 5,304 Davidg1972	Welp here comes the pain.

08-11-2014, 07:09 PM	#8897
geoffyb Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 3,159	Here comes the nap. Wake me up when heyman is done boring everyone.

08-11-2014, 07:09 PM	#8898
7jacfire Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: NY Posts: 3,542	I hope Hogan doesn't plug the WWE Network. I wouldn't be surprised if this happens though, as everyone is plugging it nowadays.

08-11-2014, 07:10 PM	#8899
mnvikingstwins Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 42,190 ski_4 ski_4	Paul Heyman, doctor of thuganomics.

08-11-2014, 07:11 PM	#8900
geoffyb Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 3,159	Why do they keep doing close ups on lesnars dumb looking face?