2022 Topps Chrome Logofractor!

[rfgilles]

Originally Posted by Yaga

Would weighing them help? I guess for the #'d cards... but I can't see you being able to weight for a Julio as he would weigh the same as the other ones wouldn't he?

Yes. Pink weighs more than purple but not as much green.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by bustsomewax

Save some face and just stop posting in this thread.

It looks childish to go from saying the product would be a flop and not resell well, to, making $750 on a case isn't worth the risk for you, to now trying to shame people for not buying enough.

We are all wrong on here from time to time, it's not a big deal. I'm sure you've been spot on alot of products or singles, this one you just happened to miss the mark, it happens. No need to make it look like your ego can't handle that.

I already said I was wrong about the immediate return. It turned out to be worth the gamble to flip quickly.

But please stop pretending this was a no brainer when most didn’t put their. money where their mouth is now. Nobody passes up guaranteed returns. You balance the risk of taking on the product with the benefit you think it might yield. No shame in that.

[bustsomewax]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

I already said I was wrong about the immediate return. It turned out to be worth the gamble to flip quickly.

But please stop pretending this was a no brainer when most didn’t put their. money where their mouth is now. Nobody passes up guaranteed returns. You balance the risk of taking on the product with the benefit you think it might yield. No shame in that.

I agree, but the term no brainer is subjective, no? I bought 70 boxes of this, my normal purchase would of been 10 or so. In my mind, it was a no brainer to go long on it, but my cash isn't infinite obviously.

[premium1981]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

If you had GUARANTEED me a 35% return when the boxes were live, I likely would have taken it. As it took two days to sell out while people here refused to scoop up every last box they could, clearly the consensus was that it was not a guarantee.

How many cases did you buy?

I have 180 boxes coming. Didn’t go through the mlb store for cases though unfortunately. I will most likely buy a bunch more once the masses of boxes hit the market if there is an appropriate dip.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by Dbacksbaseball

We have officially wondered into a financial D Measuring contest over Logofractors.

He was making assumptions that I don’t buy cards and just like to threaten pumpers for fun on my spare time, that’s all.

Then he tried to mock me for only opening one box evar and I had to remind him that the one box costs more than a case of logofractor.

Would it have been different if I opened a whole case of logofractor instead?

Of course, he would be praising me but glad I just took out another sealed case from the logofractor market to help increase the scarcity of his sealed holdings, of course.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by bustsomewax

I agree, but the term no brainer is subjective, no? I bought 70 boxes of this, my normal purchase would have been 10 or so. In my mind, it was a no brainer to go long on it, but my cash isn't infinite obviously.

No brainer to me implies a play you are willing to go all in on.

When these were on sale, if you had told me I’d be able to take $20k and make a $7k profit after taxes in just two weeks, I would have taken it. It would be crazy not to. But the reality is nothing is guaranteed. The Julio SP could have opened at $900. They could all be horribly off center. The image could have been a horizontal throwing. All of that would have depressed box prices from where they are now, and you could not have predicted any of that.

I just think it’s dangerous to claim anything is a no brainer in the hobby today. Look what happened with Topps Chrome. Brios actually had a very logical argument for why the product could be a home run, yet it still flopped for reasons out of his control. This isn’t FOTL circa 2018. It’s not 2018 Optic mega cases in fall 2019 where it was impossible to lose. Look no further than the poor guy who ripped his 40 box case that had ZERO SPs and ZERO Wander base. Defies the odds, but that’s the gamble you take.

[Howie7107]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

I already said I was wrong about the immediate return. It turned out to be worth the gamble to flip quickly.

But please stop pretending this was a no brainer when most didn’t put their. money where their mouth is now. Nobody passes up guaranteed returns. You balance the risk of taking on the product with the benefit you think it might yield. No shame in that.

I believe I was the first person to claim this was a clear winner in the thread (could be wrong, but I was pretty early). You really think I didn't put my money where my mouth is?

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by Phoneboy

busted 20 boxes...
1 JRod
1 Abrams
1 Nootsbar auto
1 Yordan Orange auto

didn't bother with the base packs, but will open eventually.

That's a good case!

[87toppsproject]

I ordered 4 boxes on day one and 6 more the following day. The first 4 arrived today and I cracked them while working from home doing job training

Base: Wander Franco

Logofractor: Shane Bieber Plaque, Shane Bieber Green Auto (same pack); Aaron Judge Pink.

Still deciding what I want to do with the remaing 6 that are coming tomorrow.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by Howie7107

I believe I was the first person to claim this was a clear winner in the thread (could be wrong, but I was pretty early). You really think I didn't put my money where my mouth is?

Why not buy more than 10 if it was a no brainer? Maybe that’s all in for you. I don’t know, I don’t care. All I know is that if I had felt the way you guys are claiming you did, I would have been in for however many cases the MLB store would have let me buy.

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by CxL

My 6 Box Breakdown

Club Plaques: 1:80 packs
PS-2 Aaron Judge

Future Stars:
Wander Franco
Jake Burger
Lars Nootbar
Luis Gil
Josaih Gray Green 75/99

LogoFractor Base and Color:
Trevor Rodgers
Steven Strasburg
Shane Baz RC
Jose Siri RC
Xander Bogaerts
Ketel Marte
Bryce Harper
Carlos Correa X2
Jose Abreu
Brandon Marsh RC
Jake Cronenworth Pink 178/199
Mike Trout Purple 028/250
Mike Trout Pink 031/199
Austin Riley X2
Juan Soto
Casey Mize
Ke'Bryan Hayes
Corey Seager
Miguel Cabrera
Matt Olson Orange 22/25
Joey Votto
Luis Robert
Ryan Vilade RC
Brandon Crawford
Shane Bieber
Mike Yastremski Purple 022/250
Paul Goldschmidt
Tyler Gilbert RC
Bryan Reynolds
Trey Mancini X2
Trey Mancini Purple 029/250
Max Scherzer
Wander Franco X2
Byron Buxton Blue 084/150
J.D. Martinez
Seth Beer RC Purple 116/250
Adolis Garcia
Jared Kelenic
Jared Kelenic Purple 075/250
Mitch Haniger X2
Fernando Tatis Jr X2
Max Kepler
Max Kepler Pink 117/199
Whit Merifield Blue 017/150
Fransisco Lindor
Fransisco Lindor Green 95/99
Ronaldo Acuna Jr

Short Prints
Julio Rodriguez

You killed that break!! Congratulations once again, truly happy for you!!

Originally Posted by yoadrian49

All chrome threads this year are better than anything currently on the Nextdoor app

Hahaha, this actually made me laugh. You're probably right too.

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

I sell everything I don’t want to keep in a break. That’s not flipping, that’s gambling and recouping costs. I didn’t try to shop or pump the card, just sharing my good fortune. I was going to keep it, but a good friend of mine is a big fan so I let it go. Now I have more funds to open more wax as well.

I told you before I’m a treasure hunter. There’s really nothing I would keep in my PC in topps chrome this year, or any year for that matter, so I don’t really break the product often. I like on card auto patches.

I find the higher end products have better yield for the price with less bulk to deal with, all my best pulls have been from high end products. It’s really tough to pull something good out of a mass produced product like topps chrome.

Cost of wax is all relative, isn’t it?

So the cost-basis of the card was $380 to you. How much did you sell it to your friend? Regardless, congratulations flipperboi!!

Originally Posted by bustsomewax

I agree, but the term no brainer is subjective, no? I bought 70 boxes of this, my normal purchase would of been 10 or so. In my mind, it was a no brainer to go long on it, but my cash isn't infinite obviously.

100%. My normal purchase would've been 10-20 boxes had it not been a no-brainer.

[SupermanBrandon]

All In, No Brainer = You buy as many as humanly possible! You find ways to secure more. You have your family members buying. I see maybe one BO member did that.

[Prox3]

Opened 2 of 10 boxes so far and got a purple Wander in box 2. Box 1 was rough. I’ll post the hits from all 10 when I get through them.

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by Prox3

Opened 2 of 10 boxes so far and got a purple Wander in box 2. Box 1 was rough. I’ll post the hits from all 10 when I get through them.

Congratulations on the hit! If selling the purple Wander, shoot me a price!

[bustsomewax]

Tough look when the people who were down on this product have shifted to shaming people for calling it a 'no brainer' yet not buying a 1/4th of the print run to justify it. You were wrong. Get over it.

[Yaga]

Originally Posted by rfgilles

Yes. Pink weighs more than purple but not as much green.

Oh for real?? Didn't know that!

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by bustsomewax

Tough look when the people who were down on this product have shifted to shaming people for calling it a 'no brainer' yet not buying a 1/4th of the print run to justify it. You were wrong. Get over it.

It’s not a tough look at all. Two separate issues at hand. I was wrong about the immediate flip. You are lying about thinking it was a no brainer. I’ll take being wrong over being a liar.

[Prox3]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

Congratulations on the hit! If selling the purple Wander, shoot me a price!

Thanks. Next box was a Freddie Freeman superfractor 1/1 auto. Needless to say I like this product.

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by bustsomewax

Tough look when the people who were down on this product have shifted to shaming people for calling it a 'no brainer' yet not buying a 1/4th of the print run to justify it. You were wrong. Get over it.

Times have certainly been tough for some.

Originally Posted by Prox3

Thanks. Next box was a Freddie Freeman superfractor 1/1 auto. Needless to say I like this product.

Share a pic!! Wow, you've already destroyed your break and you have another 7 boxes to rip through lol.

[Prox3]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

Times have certainly been tough for some.



Share a pic!! Wow, you've already destroyed your break and you have another 7 boxes to rip through lol.

I’ll post pics once I get through them. Hoping there’s some good stuff left

[SupermanBrandon]

Topps screwed some of its biggest customers & hobbyist in general w/ TC, but all was forgiven because they brought something newer and shiner to the table for cheap. If people are going to call for no brainer, all-in...they need to put their money where there mouth is. 10 boxes isn't even note worthy.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

Topps screwed some of its biggest customers & hobbyist in general w/ TC, but all was forgiven because they brought something newer and shiner to the table for cheap. If people are going to call for no brainer, all-in...they need to put their money where there mouth is. 10 boxes isn't even note worthy.

this is the part that bothers me most.

you can tell who is using topps for money vs who is collecting

[thewild3]

I bought 10 boxes only because this was exclusive to the NY MLB store and on Topps.com. Can ever go wrong with exclusive products.

[IceTrae]

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

Topps screwed some of its biggest customers & hobbyist in general w/ TC, but all was forgiven because they brought something newer and shiner to the table for cheap. If people are going to call for no brainer, all-in...they need to put their money where there mouth is. 10 boxes isn't even note worthy.

Maybe 10 boxes or $550 isn't "putting your money where your mouth is" for you, but for some people it is

We can't all be hobby legends like SupermanBrandon or KhalDrogo with multi million dollar card portfolios and always being right, even when we're wrong

[bustsomewax]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

It’s not a tough look at all. Two separate issues at hand. I was wrong about the immediate flip. You are lying about thinking it was a no brainer. I’ll take being wrong over being a liar.

I commented it was a gift from Topps in the first day or two, I'm not sure when or where I specifically called it a no brainer. Like I said before, 'No Brainer' is subjective term. It could mean entirely different things to people anyhow.

I would appreciate it if you did not call me a liar. Especially when comparing yourself to me in an effort to save face about a product release. We all know you were wrong, we get it.