Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer

[williemayshayes]

Originally Posted by JRX

Artists with neither Trout or Jeter

Blake
Efdot
Don C
Siff
JK5
Vides
Shore
Cartoon
Naturel
Oldmanlan
Chang
Beck

That's quite a long list actually.

Now add Griffey


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[BurnerNotify]

Originally Posted by Ferg1945

This is odd.... in the span of 70 minutes 5 Mister Cartoon George Brett were purchased @ $175 a piece... by 5 separate buyers

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Private feedback but (376) in last 12 months

What or who prompted these buyers to go buy these cards in such a short span of time?

I think people watch what others are buying and then copy their moves. Cartoon Bretts seems kind of cheap at $175 so I don’t think any funny biz was going on. Earlier I bought 2 JK5 Ichiros for 300 each. Immediately after, another buyer bought 2 at 351 each. Monkey see monkey do.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by williemayshayes

Now add Griffey


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There's a ton of cards to come out still.

[premium1981]

Originally Posted by mwheeler27

I don’t believe you. I think you’re just spreading lies.

I don't believe him either. Not sure what his angle is, but his posts don't pass the smell test.

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by Chris P

I love how people revel in bringing bad news on these forums. I swear it seems like some hope this fails on a huge level so they can beat their chests and rub it in

Yes. Some people have sadness and pain in their lives.

“Misery enjoys company”, unfortunately.

[ninjacookies]

Fucci Trout is now a 50 dollar card, ladies and gentleman.


I can't.....

[DStars45]

If you’re buying in hand cards on eBay are you worried about the centering?

[Ferg1945]

Question about investment.

I bought a Ermsy Trout for roughly $80 when you factor in shipping/taxes and I bought a Mister Cartoon Clemente for $18. I sold them both a week and half ago... for about $530 after fees and shipping were removed.

I used that money to buy a Ben Baller Ichiro for $646 after taxes/shipping... I had to add roughly $100 to complete the transaction.

My question... do you just count the money you had to add ($100) as your investment into the Ichiro or the full $646. I only counted the $100.

[cavsfan70]

Originally Posted by nerdherd020

Grotesk's Gibson just sold for $995.

Got mine for 300 last Sunday because of FOMO.

Dang!


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[BurnerNotify]

Originally Posted by Hdpooh34

The fact I realized it was so easy to counterfeit added to the rumors I heard it was already in process of being done in different parts around the USA and Asia led me to quickly sell 2 sets today.

1 counterfeit set gets sold on eBay and the intrinsic value of these quickly goes to zero. I’m being cautious and getting my profits out while I can. I still have 3 sets in case they still go up in value but I grabbed some profits by selling 2. Should never be too greedy in this hobby, especially when you see a vulnerable spot.

Be safe out there gents

Hodl strong and have faith

Counterfeit sales will have no effect on the intrinsic value of baseball cards because like comic books and art, baseball cards have no intrinsic value to begin with.

[SaveMeTheGum]

Gooden Beck just sold for $1016 BIN.

[scott1234]

Originally Posted by Ferg1945

Question about investment.

I bought a Ermsy Trout for roughly $80 when you factor in shipping/taxes and I bought a Mister Cartoon Clemente for $18. I sold them both a week and half ago... for about $530 after fees and shipping were removed.

I used that money to buy a Ben Baller Ichiro for $646 after taxes/shipping... I had to add roughly $100 to complete the transaction.

My question... do you just count the money you had to add ($100) as your investment into the Ichiro or the full $646. I only counted the $100.

I think you would add the $80 and $18 to the $100.

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by Ferg1945

Question about investment.

I bought a Ermsy Trout for roughly $80 when you factor in shipping/taxes and I bought a Mister Cartoon Clemente for $18. I sold them both a week and half ago... for about $530 after fees and shipping were removed.

I used that money to buy a Ben Baller Ichiro for $646 after taxes/shipping... I had to add roughly $100 to complete the transaction.

My question... do you just count the money you had to add ($100) as your investment into the Ichiro or the full $646. I only counted the $100.

I count all the consideration, (most often “money”), I give for each card as my investment in that card.

If I understand you correctly, you invested $646 in the Baller card, not $100.

[Ferg1945]

Originally Posted by scott1234

I think you would add the $80 and $18 to the $100.

Thank You... The $80 and $18 were already added in. Even tho I sold them I didn't remove those amounts from my total investment.

[Ferg1945]

Originally Posted by mwheeler27

I count all the consideration, (most often “money”), I give for each card as my investment in that card.

If I understand you correctly, you invested $646 in the Baller card, not $100.

Correct... but $540ish was from selling the Trout and Clemente... I only have the $80, $18 and $100 of my money in the Ichiro.

[scott1234]

Originally Posted by Ferg1945

Thank You... The $80 and $18 were already added in. Even tho I sold them I didn't remove those amounts from my total investment.

Gotcha, you got yourself a nice card in the end for sure.

[Namttip]

Originally Posted by Ferg1945

Correct... but $540ish was from selling the Trout and Clemente... I only have the $80, $18 and $100 of my money in the Ichiro.

Depends if you believe in house money... I do not.

If you didn't take profits and it goes to 0 you lost the 540, 80 and 18.

At one point you had the money and now you have an asset you put that money into, no matter how you slice it.

[marktheshark]

Originally Posted by Ferg1945

Correct... but $540ish was from selling the Trout and Clemente... I only have the $80, $18 and $100 of my money in the Ichiro.

But didn't the full amount of your Trout and Clemente sales become your money? That money could have been used for anything, but you exchanged it for an Ichiro.

[Ferg1945]

Originally Posted by scott1234

Gotcha, you got yourself a nice card in the end for sure.

Thank You. I wasn't expecting the recent jump but I knew it was a must have. Card #1, Ichiro, PR, Ben Baller, 1.4M Instagram followers and the $35K he said he was offered to sign a set.

[BurnerNotify]

Originally Posted by Ferg1945

Question about investment.

I bought a Ermsy Trout for roughly $80 when you factor in shipping/taxes and I bought a Mister Cartoon Clemente for $18. I sold them both a week and half ago... for about $530 after fees and shipping were removed.

I used that money to buy a Ben Baller Ichiro for $646 after taxes/shipping... I had to add roughly $100 to complete the transaction.

My question... do you just count the money you had to add ($100) as your investment into the Ichiro or the full $646. I only counted the $100.

Your investment in Ichiro is $646.

[cavsfan70]

No money bears listed for under 675 today.

Feels like I got a deal now lol




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[Namttip]

Originally Posted by SaveMeTheGum

Gooden Beck just sold for $1016 BIN.

My greed is so high... When I started I was happy with doubling my original $20 on two cards so one would pay for the other.

Now my struggle is should I sell 189 purchase at 5.4 times that which will buy 56 more cards.... That most likely I can sell those for 10x to buy 560 cards later. Why is this even a conversation with myself.

I wanted 1, now I can have 561.... But I want more, more, more....

[Ferg1945]

Originally Posted by Namttip

Depends if you believe in house money... I do not.

If you didn't take profits and it goes to 0 you lost the 540, 80 and 18.

At one point you had the money and now you have an asset you put that money into, no matter how you slice it.

Originally Posted by marktheshark

But didn't the full amount of your Trout and Clemente sales become your money? That money could have been used for anything, but you exchanged it for an Ichiro.

Originally Posted by BurnerNotify

Your investment in Ichiro is $646.

Sounds good. I was going back and forth on it. You're right... the full amount is my investment.

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by Ferg1945

Correct... but $540ish was from selling the Trout and Clemente... I only have the $80, $18 and $100 of my money in the Ichiro.

You have $198 invested in P2020, but you have $646 invested in the Ichiro.

[justin80]

Sunday morning Money Bear update: 19 sold ($600 most recent), 23 active listings ($675 lowest BIN) Did any Project 2020 cards move this fast? I know there are others currently higher but I wasn’t following closely when the set first came out (ugh!) and don’t know when those cards made their moves.