NBA Top Shot - High Risk, High Reward? - Page 362

rysportguy · 03-15-2021, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jcardstore

They have significant financial interest. You could provide ry guy with a full peer reviewed Harvard business school study and he would find some reason it was wrong

Oh you are right. His girlfriend (who happened to be listening to an NFT based podcast) has heard of it so it must be mainstream. You guys are the ones who are close minded. We have made perfectly rational points and you immediately dismiss them.

rysportguy · 03-15-2021, 02:12 PM

You guys realize I can sell right now and take my $8k profit and move on right? I am here because I believe in the product. Acting like I am biased because I need this to succeed is ridiculous.

Vinny1984 · 03-15-2021, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Howie7107

Yeah I mean I think this is pretty obvious at this point and it’s a little sad.

I don’t recall ever saying I was leaving, though I do recall making a withdrawal in order to invest in another NFT project. I’m not sure I’ve ever said this is outright failing, but your very hardline perception around my thoughts on Dapper’s incompetence and the general market outlook is sort of telling. I think there’s actually quite a bit of financial opportunity within TopShot still, hence my keeping a Dapper balance and staying engaged with the product. However, I think the days of holding whatever you please and it going up are a thing of the past.

Telling how? Because I believe in the product?

jcardstore · 03-15-2021, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rysportguy

Oh you are right. His girlfriend (who happened to be listening to an NFT based podcast) has heard of it so it must be mainstream. You guys are the ones who are close minded. We have made perfectly rational points and you immediately dismiss them.

I'm not talking about this specific point. Literally any opinion that doesn't align with your outlook is wrong according to you.

Not one single piece of evidence will change your mind on what topshot will be so it's not even worth engaging with any rational argument.

Vinny1984 · 03-15-2021, 02:36 PM

Well this thread has run its course for me. It was fun but I’m out. If anyone wants to chat about TS or has any other good discords, shoot me a PM. Good luck all.

rysportguy · 03-15-2021, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jcardstore

I'm not talking about this specific point. Literally any opinion that doesn't align with your outlook is wrong according to you.

Not one single piece of evidence will change your mind on what topshot will be so it's not even worth engaging with any rational argument.

Well I may have a differing opinion. But that isn't about being right and wrong. I do believe opinions should be based on facts so I share the facts that lead to my opinion. If you have a specific example of this then we can discuss it further.

I didn't disagree with opinions that market place restrictions hurt the fair market goal but I added in the point that I didn't think it was a fair market even without the restrictions because of other factors at play (technical difficulties or pack profit issue).

I don't agree that this is anywhere close to having it's full reach within the NBA world and I gave my reasoning for it.

If you have any other examples let me know.

rysportguy · 03-15-2021, 02:38 PM

I think I am also going to move on from this thread. Was a good run but I think it has run its course for me plus the NBA card guys must hate seeing this constantly bumped. Good luck to everyone!

2010GBPackers · 03-15-2021, 02:44 PM

Oh, no! Everyone's out? C'mon!

You three dudes are like the last of the Mohicans. Damn it.

My TS knowledge is now on a severe downward trajectory.

jcardstore · 03-15-2021, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rysportguy

Well I may have a differing opinion. But that isn't about being right and wrong. I do believe opinions should be based on facts so I share the facts that lead to my opinion. If you have a specific example of this then we can discuss it further.

I didn't disagree with opinions that market place restrictions hurt the fair market goal but I added in the point that I didn't think it was a fair market even without the restrictions because of other factors at play (technical difficulties or pack profit issue).

I don't agree that this is anywhere close to having it's full reach within the NBA world and I gave my reasoning for it.

If you have any other examples let me know.

Basically every post in this thread that's not pro TS you disagree with.

I'm a TS hater, I can admit I'm biased against it but you can't even admit that. It's a self awareness thing.

ThePackLife · 03-15-2021, 02:49 PM

It sucks seeing some of the more positive people leave the thread but I'm kind of at that point aswell...

After a little over 3 weeks, I was able to turn my original $300 into a lowest ask portfolio of about $1,400(liquid). Funny thing is, I actually joined the platform to collect and as someone who really enjoys the platform, I'm still struggling to figure out if this is really for "collectors" or a day traders paradise. So for now I'm just gonna play the sidelines and hold what I already have and see how it unflolds.

Congrats to us Beta Bois who were able to turn nothing into something and best of LUCK to those trying this out for the first time.

BRB... Lurking for now. Peace

Duvalier · 03-15-2021, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 2010GBPackers

Oh, no! Everyone's out? C'mon!

You three dudes are like the last of the Mohicans. Damn it.

My TS knowledge is now on a severe downward trajectory.

At least you're still here to drop all your TS knowledge. Now everyone's knowledge will be on an upward trajectory.

blevins26 · 03-15-2021, 02:54 PM

I know it was created a while ago, but the title of the thread is super misleading.

"High risk, high reward"

It's almost 0 risk if you just buy a few packs. I will personally guarantee that ROI is better than 99% of wax that gets opened. At least that's been my experience.

It's almost impossible to not break even on packs right now. For me, it's the most exciting aspect of TS. I'm not looking to get rich, but buying a pack for $14, $99, or $199 and knowing that it's virtually guaranteed to break even with maybe a slim chance for an insane pull is really fun.

If you don't like TS you should at least like the fact that it will put pressure on Panini to put more value into their products. Competition is good.

b2k1121 · 03-15-2021, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jcardstore

Basically every post in this thread that's not pro TS you disagree with.

I'm a TS hater, I can admit I'm biased against it but you can't even admit that. It's a self awareness thing.

He's into Topshot, is it really that hard to believe that he would argue against negative opinions on it? Even if it seems irrational to you, who cares? Let people like what they like.

whodatbeastly16 · 03-15-2021, 03:13 PM

Why is everyone lurking now? That's boring. I guess I'll just have to update everyone on how my Deni RS is doing. Current low is $395 looks like it's stabilized around there for the past day or so. Hopefully when they get the market working these RS can shoot back up.

Oh well, when the next pack drops y'all will all be here. The market is dead cause of their restrictions, which I agree they need to fix ASAP.

b2k1121 · 03-15-2021, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by whodatbeastly16

Why is everyone lurking now? That's boring. I guess I'll just have to update everyone on how my Deni RS is doing. Current low is $395 looks like it's stabilized around there for the past day or so. Hopefully when they get the market working these RS can shoot back up.

Oh well, when the next pack drops y'all will all be here. The market is dead cause of their restrictions, which I agree they need to fix ASAP.

How many sales today?

I might head out too, I've been pretty busy on a vegan forum lately, confused why they are arguing with me after I said how good cow's milk is. Why can't they just admit that oat milk sucks, and then I can finally move on with my life?

benz35 · 03-15-2021, 03:42 PM

pack drop soon

https://www.nbatopshot.com/listings/...8-5666ae489a1d

b2k1121 · 03-15-2021, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by benz35

pack drop soon

https://www.nbatopshot.com/listings/...8-5666ae489a1d

Looks like a stress test with only 5,000 available. In other words, I'm not getting one.

whodatbeastly16 · 03-15-2021, 04:06 PM

Not like the moments in there will be that great anyway. They need to drop the Cool Cats to build up some more steam on the market

Mahomescards777 · 03-15-2021, 04:11 PM

My Paul George dunk /10000 is FS lmk

beavers · 03-15-2021, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by benz35

pack drop soon

https://www.nbatopshot.com/listings/...8-5666ae489a1d

How long after this notification until they typically go live?

b2k1121 · 03-15-2021, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by whodatbeastly16

Not like the moments in there will be that great anyway. They need to drop the Cool Cats to build up some more steam on the market

It sounds like these could be the unreleased 15k, 12k, and 4k series 2 moments. You could pull several hundred from these or and the 1k Lebron. They also usually do these before a large pack release so Cool Cats is soon.

Mahomescards777 · 03-15-2021, 04:19 PM

I sold my Tyler hero series 2 layup for 25$ and lowest is listed is $13 why

mossoholic · 03-15-2021, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by beavers

How long after this notification until they typically go live?

Usually its been impossible. Only 15 minutes and no one on here that doesn't know will share the information of how you can get the Top Shot Discord to send you a phone notification. Go figure this is the only time I've seen one of these within 15 minutes and of course they haven't gone up for sale. Far as I can tell usually only bots or people that check here or Top Shot several times an hour have a chance at the 5000 pack stress tests.

Bruvydsb · 03-15-2021, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mahomescards777

I sold my Tyler hero series 2 layup for 25$ and lowest is listed is $13 why

Was it a desirable serial #?

b2k1121 · 03-15-2021, 04:30 PM

I don't recall the pack url being well known like this before previous stress tests. It's been over discord and twitter for awhile now so everyone knows about it this time. Going to be a ton of people in the queue and wouldn't be surprised if the wenpax crew breaks the site refreshing that page nonstop.

03-15-2021, 02:36 PM	#9030
Vinny1984 Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 3,145 Admcm53	Well this thread has run its course for me. It was fun but I’m out. If anyone wants to chat about TS or has any other good discords, shoot me a PM. Good luck all. __________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/187995295@N03/albums

03-15-2021, 02:44 PM	#9033
2010GBPackers Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 4,163	Oh, no! Everyone's out? C'mon! You three dudes are like the last of the Mohicans. Damn it. My TS knowledge is now on a severe downward trajectory. __________________ "And more and more and more and more And more of less than ever before It's just too much more for your mind to absorb" - Yasiin Bey (Mos Def) Instagram: 2010gbpackers

03-15-2021, 02:49 PM	#9035
ThePackLife Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 1,001	It sucks seeing some of the more positive people leave the thread but I'm kind of at that point aswell... After a little over 3 weeks, I was able to turn my original $300 into a lowest ask portfolio of about $1,400(liquid). Funny thing is, I actually joined the platform to collect and as someone who really enjoys the platform, I'm still struggling to figure out if this is really for "collectors" or a day traders paradise. So for now I'm just gonna play the sidelines and hold what I already have and see how it unflolds. Congrats to us Beta Bois who were able to turn nothing into something and best of LUCK to those trying this out for the first time. BRB... Lurking for now. Peace __________________ FOMO is REAL! Last edited by ThePackLife; 03-15-2021 at 03:00 PM.

03-15-2021, 02:12 PM	#9027
rysportguy Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 1,747 ry_9507	You guys realize I can sell right now and take my $8k profit and move on right? I am here because I believe in the product. Acting like I am biased because I need this to succeed is ridiculous.

03-15-2021, 02:38 PM	#9032
rysportguy Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 1,747 ry_9507	I think I am also going to move on from this thread. Was a good run but I think it has run its course for me plus the NBA card guys must hate seeing this constantly bumped. Good luck to everyone!

03-15-2021, 02:54 PM	#9037
blevins26 Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,923 blevins26	I know it was created a while ago, but the title of the thread is super misleading. "High risk, high reward" It's almost 0 risk if you just buy a few packs. I will personally guarantee that ROI is better than 99% of wax that gets opened. At least that's been my experience. It's almost impossible to not break even on packs right now. For me, it's the most exciting aspect of TS. I'm not looking to get rich, but buying a pack for $14, $99, or $199 and knowing that it's virtually guaranteed to break even with maybe a slim chance for an insane pull is really fun. If you don't like TS you should at least like the fact that it will put pressure on Panini to put more value into their products. Competition is good.

03-15-2021, 03:13 PM	#9039
whodatbeastly16 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 3,896	Why is everyone lurking now? That's boring. I guess I'll just have to update everyone on how my Deni RS is doing. Current low is $395 looks like it's stabilized around there for the past day or so. Hopefully when they get the market working these RS can shoot back up. Oh well, when the next pack drops y'all will all be here. The market is dead cause of their restrictions, which I agree they need to fix ASAP.

03-15-2021, 03:42 PM	#9041
benz35 Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,854	pack drop soon https://www.nbatopshot.com/listings/...8-5666ae489a1d

03-15-2021, 04:06 PM	#9043
whodatbeastly16 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 3,896	Not like the moments in there will be that great anyway. They need to drop the Cool Cats to build up some more steam on the market

03-15-2021, 04:11 PM	#9044
Mahomescards777 Banned Join Date: Oct 2020 Posts: 1,144 Sports_cards_collection	My Paul George dunk /10000 is FS lmk

03-15-2021, 04:19 PM	#9047
Mahomescards777 Banned Join Date: Oct 2020 Posts: 1,144 Sports_cards_collection	I sold my Tyler hero series 2 layup for 25$ and lowest is listed is $13 why

03-15-2021, 04:30 PM	#9050
b2k1121 Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 721	I don't recall the pack url being well known like this before previous stress tests. It's been over discord and twitter for awhile now so everyone knows about it this time. Going to be a ton of people in the queue and wouldn't be surprised if the wenpax crew breaks the site refreshing that page nonstop.