Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer

[Oliroller]

How do you not have a Miggy card today? There had to have been at least one artist (maybe) seeing the build up to 500, right? And it took him a week to finally get it.

[ThoseBackPages]

i hope Miggy gets a LIVING card this week

[80s Kid]

Originally Posted by ATeamHasNoName

Yeah I would think for me an Ohtani x Super Mario Galaxy would be an automatic... but... doesn't excite me. I bet the foil will look super cool, but other than that

I’m the outlier but this is my favorite card of his in the set. And yes that includes the Adam Bomb Trout.

[JRX]

He should have done mario 3 and made ohtani a tanooki

[PoPCulture]

Originally Posted by DioBrando

I'm thinking the wrapper cards got dropped, it was 2 per artist originally, then there was talk it got changed to 1

Topps may as well hold off on the wrapper cards for now. After the MLBPA deal runs out in a couple of years Topps can probably do complete projects of pre ‘95 wrappers. If all of the artists aren’t working for Fanatics at that point lol.

[80s Kid]

Originally Posted by Oliroller

How do you not have a Miggy card today? There had to have been at least one artist (maybe) seeing the build up to 500, right? And it took him a week to finally get it.

It’s consistent with Topps not really caring about events for this set. They have Topps Now to run.

In order for a Miggy card to come out, an artist would have to care enough about him and the Tigers to create one.

[ATeamHasNoName]

Originally Posted by 80s Kid

I’m the outlier but this is my favorite card of his in the set. And yes that includes the Adam Bomb Trout.

I can see why. It's a cool card. I just can't pinpoint what it is that throws me off a little about it.

It is interesting to look at his portfolio for P70 and see how his style has evolved to really ramp up the nostalgia factor. If I had to pick another artist or two to collect it'd be him and Quiccs.

[cnote81]

Originally Posted by Oliroller

How do you not have a Miggy card today? There had to have been at least one artist (maybe) seeing the build up to 500, right? And it took him a week to finally get it.

Great question. Clearly shows a lack in attention to details or enthusiasm for the sport they're profiting off of.

[JRX]

Blake turned around a Kelenic card pretty quickly, he could do a Miggy card.

[kevbojones]

Probably a good idea this point.

Originally Posted by DioBrando

I'm thinking the wrapper cards got dropped, it was 2 per artist originally, then there was talk it got changed to 1

[vermonty]

Originally Posted by JRX

Blake turned around a Kelenic card pretty quickly, he could do a Miggy card.

I hope he does!

[DioBrando]

Print runs for last week's cards are up, no real surprises

[1000 Sport Zonk]

Originally Posted by DioBrando

Print runs for last week's cards are up, no real surprises

Lowest print run for a Babe Ruth yet, Claw Money with 1105

[vermonty]

Rochester Acuna at 1613 is low, but surprisingly not the lowest for him (SoleFly 1473).

Nice Lauren Taylor Mantle PR at 6302.

[DioBrando]

Card 481 - 1965 Mariano Rivera by FUTURA - PR: 1114
Card 480 - 2007 Ronald Acuna Jr. by Jacob Rochester - PR: 1613
Card 479 - 2013 Mike Piazza by Morning Breath - PR: 721
Card 478 - 1993 Shohei Ohtani by Greg 'CRAOLA' Simkins - PR: 3451
Card 477 - 1992 David Wright by New York Nico - PR: 986
Card 476 - 1972 Babe Ruth by Claw Money - PR: 1105
Card 475 - 1980 Vladimir Guerrero Jr. by Oldmanalan - PR: 1126
Card 474 - 1959 Ronald Acuna Jr. by Quiccs - PR: 2199
Card 473 - 1961 Mickey Mantle by Lauren Taylor - PR: 6302
Card 472 - 1989 Tim Anderson by Jonas Never - PR: 1219
Card 471 - 2021 Babe Ruth by Gregory Siff - PR: 1266
Card 470 - 2007 Shohei Ohtani by CES - PR: 3602
Card 469 - 1990 Bobby V by Blake Jamieson - PR: 1319
Card 468 - 1999 Wade Boggs by Mikael B - PR: 698
Card 468 - 1999 Wade Boggs by Mikael B - PR: 698
Card 466 - 2021 Vladimir Guerrero Jr. by DJ Skee - PR: 3040

[cnote81]

Originally Posted by vermonty

Rochester Acuna at 1613 is low, but surprisingly not the lowest for him (SoleFly 1473).

Nice Lauren Taylor Mantle PR at 6302.

One man's opinion- that Acuña number is criminally low.

[Oliroller]

Originally Posted by cnote81

One man's opinion- that Acuña number is criminally low.

Agreed. That Rochester card is fantastic.

[vermonty]

It bothered me that this gorgeous card from my favorite Project 2020 artist didn't have its PR posted above:

Card 467 - 1991 Thurman Munson by JK5 - PR: 986

And yes, that Rochester Acuna is a delight. Glad I ordered one because it's doubtful to be $20 again, at least in the near future...

[StonedCollector]

should have bricked up on the quicks acuna and claw money babe. both of those grossly undersold as well. oh well. another one i missed out on. at least i got my pc copies. good to see that there are going to be some more valuable cards, even if i have none to flip. lol.

also, skee got close to his lowest print run on a vladdy jr? that is shocking to me. i blame drake.

people must really be jumping ship on topps cards because of the news. idk. silly really.

[cnote81]

Originally Posted by vermonty

It bothered me that this gorgeous card from my favorite Project 2020 artist didn't have its PR posted above:

Card 467 - 1991 Thurman Munson by JK5 - PR: 986

And yes, that Rochester Acuna is a delight. Glad I ordered one because it's doubtful to be $20 again, at least in the near future...

JK5 has actually become my favorite artist during P70. He was up there with Ermsy, Fucci and Rochester during P2020 but his consistency has really set him apart this time around. Ermsy's recent pop culture mashups aren't for me. I also liked when he hand colored his work with markers. I'm glad he's challenging himself and staying engaged with the project though, even if it means his art is less my style lately.

[tribefan1979]

Originally Posted by cnote81

One man's opinion- that Acuña number is criminally low.

It sure is. I think we are at the point where a print run above 2K for anyone outside Ohtani / Pardee / L. Taylor / Skee is going to be "very high" and we aren't even halfway through yet.

Claw Money may not even be cracking print runs of 300 by November when collector bucks are going more towards football and basketball (not to mention absolutely brutal P70 fatigue by then).

[vermonty]

Originally Posted by tribefan1979

It sure is. I think we are at the point where a print run above 2K for anyone outside Ohtani / Pardee / L. Taylor / Skee is going to be "very high" and we aren't even halfway through yet.

Claw Money may not even be cracking print runs of 300 by November when collector bucks are going more towards football and basketball (not to mention absolutely brutal P70 fatigue by then).

I think 300 is too low, even for bad cards. My thinking is 700 is where low PRs will mostly settle, since a 10-pack will virtually guarantee a foil.

That's also why I would have expected 1400 to be the average as this project goes on. The foil chase would settle around 1 in 20 which is where it was in Project 2020. But, I think even that estimate is optimistic at this point, due to new sports seasons and fatigue as mentioned.

[Middies31985]

Got my Clemente Chuck Styles today and I can report that I received my first foil! Now, to sell or hold...

It sure is beautiful, but it sure is a nice $150 probably to fund the rest of the releases.

[hammertime]

Are people still getting cards from Wheeler?

[tribefan1979]

Originally Posted by tribefan1979

It sure is. I think we are at the point where a print run above 2K for anyone outside Ohtani / Pardee / L. Taylor / Skee is going to be "very high" and we aren't even halfway through yet.

Claw Money may not even be cracking print runs of 300 by November when collector bucks are going more towards football and basketball (not to mention absolutely brutal P70 fatigue by then).

Too much time on my hands and found this fun fact playing around on the Gumstick site:

Claw has released 11 cards for a total print run of 14,364.

Pardee's first release, Acuna, sold 14,825 copies alone.