Vladimir Guerrero, Jr. - Page 37

ThoseBackPages · 02-09-2019, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple B

Baseball America has compared him to Miguel Cabrera and David Ortiz. Who do we listen to?

Miggy please!

mwash1983 · 02-09-2019, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple B

Baseball America has compared him to Miguel Cabrera and David Ortiz. Who do we listen to?

Fangraphs, they said in their bluejays list Vlad Jr. is heavier than 245 at 19.

palmetto7 · 02-09-2019, 10:03 PM

If jr. has the same exact career as his hall of fame pops, what would that mean for his current card prices? I'm thinking his career would be a disappointment based on current card prices?

premium1981 · 02-09-2019, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by palmetto7

If jr. has the same exact career as his hall of fame pops, what would that mean for his current card prices? I'm thinking his career would be a disappointment based on current card prices?

If he doesn’t become Mike Trout his current prices are going to disappoint a lot of people.

pewe · 02-09-2019, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mwash1983

Fangraphs, they said in their bluejays list Vlad Jr. is heavier than 245 at 19.

Next Big Papi in the making?!?

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ThoseBackPages · 02-09-2019, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by pewe

Next Big Papi in the making?!?

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lets hope not!

220sports · 02-09-2019, 11:24 PM

I really think he’s the surest thing in a while. He hasn’t “got by” anywhere he’s gone. He’s dominated. He’s to the point of being the biggest bust in history if he isn’t a perennial All-Star. He’s just as good a hitter as Cabrera was if not better. He’ll be fun to watch.

mwash1983 · 02-10-2019, 07:54 AM

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Next Big Papi in the making?!?

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Papi was 6'4 230, Vlad Jr. is probably 6'0 260 so think Prince Fielder or Mo Vaughn.

Triple B · 02-10-2019, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mwash1983

Papi was 6'4 230, Vlad Jr. is probably 6'0 260 so think Prince Fielder or Mo Vaughn.

And that’s bad how? Both were brilliant hitters.

miggs00721 · 02-10-2019, 09:20 AM

Well a 2016 chrome raw non auto is about to end for $66, how long before thats a $100 card?

Hail2TheVictors · 02-10-2019, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mwash1983

Papi was 6'4 230, Vlad Jr. is probably 6'0 260 so think Prince Fielder or Mo Vaughn.

Unless I'm missing something, he hasn't looked that close to prince in terms of weight.

Hail2TheVictors · 02-10-2019, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by miggs00721

Well a 2016 chrome raw non auto is about to end for $66, how long before thats a $100 card?

It's just crazy. To my knowledge, acuna 1st chromes peaked around $30-35ish per. Does anyone recall them selling higher?

If my memory is correct, these prices are crazy. I love it, but I sold my vlad's off at like $28 per lol. Oops.

Triple B · 02-10-2019, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hail2TheVictors

Unless I'm missing something, he hasn't looked that close to prince in terms of weight.

This guy has a hate on for Vlad and comments with foolishness that makes him feel better. You’re not missing anything.

mwash1983 · 02-10-2019, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Hail2TheVictors

Unless I'm missing something, he hasn't looked that close to prince in terms of weight.

He's pretty heavy, also has a gut.

mwash1983 · 02-10-2019, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple B

This guy has a hate on for Vlad and comments with foolishness that makes him feel better. You’re not missing anything.

Not at all, the kid can hit and will be a .300 hitter, just people need to think he's not going to be a .340 35 HR out the shoot like Jim Callis thinks he will do. I've heard for 2 years he has rebuffed blue jays efforts to go on a diet.

mwash1983 · 02-10-2019, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 220sports

I really thing he’s the surest thing in a while. He hasn’t “got by” anywhere he’s gone. He’s dominated. He’s to the point of being the biggest bust in history if he isn’t a perennial All-Star. He’s just as good a hitter as Cabrera was if not better. He’ll be fun to watch.

You just can't say that, wasn't it just a couple of years ago that Byron Buxton was going to be the next Mike Trout??? Cabrera won a triple crown and is probably a 3000 hit 500 HR 1800 RBI guy, as Harper would say that's a clown question.

Soxfanguy · 02-10-2019, 07:01 PM

PSA: just because you are fat doesn't make you bad at baseball

Triple B · 02-10-2019, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mwash1983

You just can't say that, wasn't it just a couple of years ago that Byron Buxton was going to be the next Mike Trout??? Cabrera won a triple crown and is probably a 3000 hit 500 HR 1800 RBI guy, as Harper would say that's a clown question.

What was the question?

Chaysr20 · 02-10-2019, 07:22 PM

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What was the question?

Don’t feed the troll...

Triple B · 02-10-2019, 11:23 PM

Base Gem (with 9 surface) just ended at $1,153...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2016-Bowman...orig_cvip=true

RookieCardGuru · 02-11-2019, 12:15 AM

Babe Ruth was FATTTTT, his cards have to tank now LOL

premium1981 · 02-11-2019, 12:40 AM

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Babe Ruth was FATTTTT, his cards have to tank now LOL

Babe Ruth got fat as he got older. As do most people to a degree at least. Not everyone starts out fat as a teenager though. I am super excited to see Vlad come up and see what he can do. But anyone trying to gloss over his weight issues are only fooling themselves. It is an obvious issue for him. Hopefully he can keep it under control and light up MLB in a couple of months.

220sports · 02-11-2019, 07:53 AM

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Babe Ruth got fat as he got older. As do most people to a degree at least. Not everyone starts out fat as a teenager though. I am super excited to see Vlad come up and see what he can do. But anyone trying to gloss over his weight issues are only fooling themselves. It is an obvious issue for him. Hopefully he can keep it under control and light up MLB in a couple of months.

With his potential, bloodlines (father was Vlad remember, not Cecil), and modern technology, I can’t almlst guarantee you that weight will not be a negative issue. Will he ever steal 40 bags? Nope, but who cares. Also remember that players who are ripped have a much higher chance at injury. I think he’ll be just fine. Anyone saying the opposite is simply playing devils advocate and/or missed the boat. Lack of investing has made me nitpick players before as well. So I understand.

Soxfanguy · 02-11-2019, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple B

Base Gem (with 9 surface) just ended at $1,153...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2016-Bowman...orig_cvip=true

Over/Under $1500 opening day

premium1981 · 02-11-2019, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 220sports

With his potential, bloodlines (father was Vlad remember, not Cecil), and modern technology, I can’t almlst guarantee you that weight will not be a negative issue. Will he ever steal 40 bags? Nope, but who cares. Also remember that players who are ripped have a much higher chance at injury. I think he’ll be just fine. Anyone saying the opposite is simply playing devils advocate and/or missed the boat. Lack of investing has made me nitpick players before as well. So I understand.

How can you guarantee weight will not be an issue? It almost certainly will.

And for the record, I didn’t miss the boat. I made a ton on him, and will continue to root for him. I love that game and love greatness. But I like to call it like I see it and not ignore potential issues like that.

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