Vladimir Guerrero, Jr. - Page 371

ThoseBackPages · 04-30-2021, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kabrune2

I just got a 2019 Topps Chrome Refractor SCG 10 for $300, granted it's SCG but they grade fair to hard and should be better than a 50/50 chance to cross over to PSA 10. I've been picking up a few True Gem 9.5 BGS and some SCG 10's over the last week on cards with low pop PSA 10's.

I'm OCD so at some point I'll try to cross them all over, but for now I'm trying to scoop up deals and cards that look clean in BGS/SGC holders while everyone is obsessed with PSA 10.

remember that PSA has discontinued their Crossover service.

but you can still submit raw

rngrdanny22 · 04-30-2021, 03:56 PM

Vladdy vs. Ronny tonight!!

codered · 04-30-2021, 03:57 PM

How does the purple refractor compare to the chrome base? I know chrome is more popular but heritage purple refractors has about 1/15th of the population? You can pick up the raw for similar prices?

rngrdanny22 · 04-30-2021, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by codered

How does the purple refractor compare to the chrome base? I know chrome is more popular but heritage purple refractors has about 1/15th of the population? You can pick up the raw for similar prices?

Is this scenario fully talking about Heritage?

ThoseBackPages · 04-30-2021, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by codered

How does the purple refractor compare to the chrome base? I know chrome is more popular but heritage purple refractors has about 1/15th of the population? You can pick up the raw for similar prices?

Purple Refractors never gained hobby traction in either TC or Heritage, sadly

codered · 04-30-2021, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

Purple Refractors never gained hobby traction in either TC or Heritage, sadly

That’s sad because in hand the purples look so much nicer than a base chrome. I get it that heritage chromes/refractors will be behind flagship chrome refractors/parallels but seems silly they would be behind base chrome.

Are purple refractors (flagship chrome/heritage) the green prizms of baseball?

ThoseBackPages · 04-30-2021, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by codered

That’s sad because in hand the purples look so much nicer than a base chrome. I get it that heritage chromes/refractors will be behind flagship chrome refractors/parallels but seems silly they would be behind base chrome.

Are purple refractors (flagship chrome/heritage) the green prizms of baseball?

thats not a bad analogy!

jasonm2121 · 04-30-2021, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

Purple Refractors never gained hobby traction in either TC or Heritage, sadly

Tatis may be the exception here. His look good with the jersey IMO and sell pretty high in gem.

ThoseBackPages · 04-30-2021, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jasonm2121

Tatis may be the exception here. His look good with the jersey IMO and sell pretty high in gem.

thats fair

rngrdanny22 · 04-30-2021, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by codered

That’s sad because in hand the purples look so much nicer than a base chrome. I get it that heritage chromes/refractors will be behind flagship chrome refractors/parallels but seems silly they would be behind base chrome.

Are purple refractors (flagship chrome/heritage) the green prizms of baseball?

Well, base chrome Heritage is numbered, so a non-numbered parallel shouldn't cost more. Not to mention there are probably 2-3x more purple refractors than the /999 base chromes.

Also, the purple refractor Topps Chrome's are numbered to /299 and go for significantly more than a base chrome...

I'm really confused with this conversation.

Ray27Ray52 · 04-30-2021, 04:13 PM

The only Vlad RC's I have are a Heritage Purple and 2 Heritage /999's. They should be going at Tatis levels. That's when I'm selling.

MyckKabongo · 04-30-2021, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryLime

Is it me or does it feel like the hobby hasn't caught up to what he's doing yet? I feel like this thread should be doing 3-5 pages a day and it's barely doing 1. I think prices might still be on the better side.

Arthur

Still plenty of cards at 1/4 to 1/6 of comparable Tatis. Not sure he should be fully at the same level as Tatis but definitely dont think he should be this far behind at this point. Guess I'll just keep buying.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

rngrdanny22 · 04-30-2021, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by codered

Are purple refractors (flagship chrome/heritage) the green prizms of baseball?

Green refractors are the green prizms of baseball. This is for both Topps Chrome and Bowman Chrome.

You can usually get a /99 green refractor for less than a /150 blue refractor.

ThoseBackPages · 04-30-2021, 04:15 PM

cant lose with 2019 wax

BeastMode27 · 04-30-2021, 04:21 PM

I overpaid for a TC True Orange Auto PSA 10/10 as I wasn’t happy with what left for a longterm 1 keeper card. Had just sold heritage black Ref psa 10. So now I’m going to sell everything else I have left and keep the orange. Maybe haha. Have been on the 1 big card to keep kick of generational players different sports.

jasonm2121 · 04-30-2021, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BeastMode27

I overpaid for a TC True Orange Auto PSA 10/10 as I wasn’t happy with what left for a longterm 1 keeper card. Had just sold heritage black Ref psa 10. So now I’m going to sell everything else I have left and keep the orange. Maybe haha. Have been on the 1 big card to keep kick of generational players different sports.

Nothing wrong with that, nice to have other players you like.

codered · 04-30-2021, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rngrdanny22

Well, base chrome Heritage is numbered, so a non-numbered parallel shouldn't cost more. Not to mention there are probably 2-3x more purple refractors than the /999 base chromes.

Also, the purple refractor Topps Chrome's are numbered to /299 and go for significantly more than a base chrome...

I'm really confused with this conversation.

Strictly started as

2019 heritage chrome purple refractor vs. 2019 base topps chrome

I was curious to people’s thoughts mostly because they price very similar. Personally it doesn’t make sense because the purple is still a refractor and it’s considerably lower PR

TBP pointed out that collectors just don’t like purple refractors regardless of brand (ie purple #’ed in chrome doesn’t sell well relative to other colours even though TC purple is #’ed)

I know as a brand chrome is more poplar than heritage but still curious on discrepancies

rngrdanny22 · 04-30-2021, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by codered

Strictly started as

2019 heritage chrome purple refractor vs. 2019 base topps chrome

I was curious to people’s thoughts mostly because they price very similar. Personally it doesn’t make sense because the purple is still a refractor and it’s considerably lower PR

TBP pointed out that collectors just don’t like purple refractors regardless of brand (ie purple #’ed in chrome doesn’t sell well relative to other colours even though TC purple is #’ed)

I know as a brand chrome is more poplar than heritage but still curious on discrepancies

Gotcha. I'm tracking now.

Chrome is definitely more popular of the two, and it doesn't hurt that Vladdy's TC image is the same as his first flaship card (NNO).

I can really only speak for myself, but I'm just not a fan of the purple hot-box heritage refractors. A little too gimmicky for my tastes.

zac949 · 04-30-2021, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by codered

Strictly started as

2019 heritage chrome purple refractor vs. 2019 base topps chrome

I was curious to people’s thoughts mostly because they price very similar. Personally it doesn’t make sense because the purple is still a refractor and it’s considerably lower PR

TBP pointed out that collectors just don’t like purple refractors regardless of brand (ie purple #’ed in chrome doesn’t sell well relative to other colours even though TC purple is #’ed)

I know as a brand chrome is more poplar than heritage but still curious on discrepancies

Purple has the largest print run of the numbered parallels in TC so it should sell for less. It does however sell for more than all of the non-numbered parallels and should as well. The last PSA 9 sold for $336 which is more than any other non-numbered parallel would sell for with equal grade. I personally think it’s a great looking parallel and a cheap alternative for those that want a numbered card and can’t afford the Blue.

rngrdanny22 · 04-30-2021, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by zac949

Purple has the largest print run of the numbered parallels in TC so it should sell for less. It does however sell for more than all of the non-numbered parallels and should as well. The last PSA 9 sold for $336 which is more than any other non-numbered parallel would sell for with equal grade. I personally think it’s a great looking parallel and a cheap alternative for those that want a numbered card and can’t afford the Blue.

Correct. Green is the only consistent example I've seen where it does not sell in line with its numbering.

Can anyone confirm if /250 purple autos sell for less than /499 refractor autos? I can't think of many examples.

imbluestreak23 · 04-30-2021, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

cant lose with 2016 wax

This one too!

eye4talent · 04-30-2021, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rngrdanny22

Correct. Green is the only consistent example I've seen where it does not sell in line with its numbering.

Can anyone confirm if /250 purple autos sell for less than /499 refractor autos? I can't think of many examples.

Purple autos generally sell for more than regular refractor autos, but they’re noticeably closer to regular refractors than they are to blue autos. Basically, purple is a slight enhancement over /499 refractors, while blue is next level.

However, I just looked at Gleyber ‘15 autos, and the line appears to be blurred between purple and /499. The data is a little tough because things change a lot going from February to March and April, and the Gleyber market is volatile because of his poor start to the season. But there do appear to be days when a /499 will sell for more than purple.

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3rdpedal · 04-30-2021, 06:54 PM

any theories why Purple is "undervalued"? are men just not fans of purple?

Redbandit · 04-30-2021, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 3rdpedal

any theories why Purple is "undervalued"? are men just not fans of purple?

I dunno pink refractors seem to sell quite high. Id rather wear a pink polo than a purple though haha

I picked up the purple Vladdy heritage for $20 last year so hopefully men can get over their purple problems

rngrdanny22 · 04-30-2021, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 3rdpedal

any theories why Purple is "undervalued"? are men just not fans of purple?

The same reason green refractors aren't looked at more favorably.

They weren't part of the "original" rainbow.

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BeastMode27 Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,341	I overpaid for a TC True Orange Auto PSA 10/10 as I wasn’t happy with what left for a longterm 1 keeper card. Had just sold heritage black Ref psa 10. So now I’m going to sell everything else I have left and keep the orange. Maybe haha. Have been on the 1 big card to keep kick of generational players different sports.