2016 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - All Politics & Dumb Opinions Here

[jarrodsalas]

Originally Posted by Nyfancam01

Trump is 100 % PAYING people to go dislike ALL Hillary Clinton videos i'm sure.
Paying people to TROLL her posts on facebook. I honestly think he has a team of people to make it look like he's destroying her lol

So pathetic and IMMATURE.
Go watch his speeches where he pretty much says a whole lot of NOTHING. Saying whatever to get a cheap pop from the crowd who wants to take things back to the 1950's.

Clinton will beat him easily when it matters!!!
He is immature as hell. A damn diva. How can anybody take this CLOWN serious???

#CLINTON2016

Well that came out of nowhere. Are you really that upset that she has dislikes on her facebook videos?

[HillbillyCletus]

Originally Posted by Addison

"I love the poorly educated.” - Trump

should he hate them instead?

[Addison]

Originally Posted by HillbillyCletus

should he hate them instead?

Why would he hate his base, Cletus?

[HillbillyCletus]

Originally Posted by Addison

Why would he hate his base, Cletus?

You tell me. You quotes his words for a reason, I'm sure.

[pingbling23]

Originally Posted by mcgoo2

I guess this just speaks to how we all have differing opinions on things but none of these points are import/legitimate concerns in my opinion.

The US unemployment rate is already low at 5.5%. The complaint is that the jobs being added are low wage labor jobs. How will deporting a bunch of day laborers solve this?

The US is already difficult to immigrate to. Do you know that yuge number of Syrian refugees have taken in this year? 1,500. That 500% increase Trump talks about is a lot less significant when you realize the amount we currently take in is essentially insignificant.

Improve trade deals how? I hear about enforcing patent protections (which I agree with) but then he turns around and says the tpp is an awful deal when it's essentially a deal that was already in place with added patent protections. The reality is that US heavily protects industries such as farming and manufacturers to the point that employees get paid well beyond fair market value and when we open the borders, companies move to the more efficient country and vice versa. Jobs are lost in some industries and gained in others. Trump is either proposing an extension of these subsidies or we foolishly isolate ourselves from the world economy in the name of saving uncompetitive industries.

I'm not following the logic behind inexperience being beneficial but I guess it's a worldwide trend considering the UK just ignored those pesky economists for Brexit.

I actually like some of what Trump brings to the GOP but as long as he continues to use foreigners as some boogeyman to shoulder all the US's problems, he's going to rightfully be accused of instigating bigotry.

If you don't think the 15 million people that are jobless and 12 million illegals in our country removing 20-30 billion dollars a year from our economy are important or legitimate then there is no reason to discuss the rest of your post.

[chezball]

Originally Posted by mcgoo2

I guess this just speaks to how we all have differing opinions on things but none of these points are import/legitimate concerns in my opinion.

The US unemployment rate is already low at 5.5%. The complaint is that the jobs being added are low wage labor jobs. How will deporting a bunch of day laborers solve this?

The US is already difficult to immigrate to. Do you know that yuge number of Syrian refugees have taken in this year? 1,500. That 500% increase Trump talks about is a lot less significant when you realize the amount we currently take in is essentially insignificant.

Improve trade deals how? I hear about enforcing patent protections (which I agree with) but then he turns around and says the tpp is an awful deal when it's essentially a deal that was already in place with added patent protections. The reality is that US heavily protects industries such as farming and manufacturers to the point that employees get paid well beyond fair market value and when we open the borders, companies move to the more efficient country and vice versa. Jobs are lost in some industries and gained in others. Trump is either proposing an extension of these subsidies or we foolishly isolate ourselves from the world economy in the name of saving uncompetitive industries.

I'm not following the logic behind inexperience being beneficial but I guess it's a worldwide trend considering the UK just ignored those pesky economists for Brexit.

I actually like some of what Trump brings to the GOP but as long as he continues to use foreigners as some boogeyman to shoulder all the US's problems, he's going to rightfully be accused of instigating bigotry.

The fact that you think the unemployment rate is 5.5% is laughable.
There's a thing called U-6 and that's at 9.7%, which still seems low.
Some economists will tell you to add seven to any numbers coming from the DOL for the true unemployment rate.

[Addison]

Originally Posted by HillbillyCletus

You tell me. You quotes his words for a reason, I'm sure.

I'm not sure what you are getting at...

[HillbillyCletus]

Originally Posted by Addison

I'm not sure what you are getting at...

I assume your quote was to somehow disparage Trump and/or his "uneducated" voters. If it was not, then I am misreading it.

My question is, should "uneducated" voters, whether they or for Trump or not, be held in any less regard than "educated" voters?

[Nyfancam01]

"He's written alot of books.. .... ... They all seem to end at chapter eleven"

LMAO lolololoolol Clinton destroyed him!!!

[chipmaster]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

Trump PANDERS to, or targets, uneducated people by the way he presents himself.

And Hillary does the same by promising more free stuff - that's what the Dems run on and it's hard to defeat that stance when 50% of the nation is worthless and can't even wipe their own ass.

[HillbillyCletus]

Originally Posted by Nyfancam01

"He's written alot of books.. .... ... They all seem to end at chapter eleven"

LMAO lolololoolol Clinton destroyed him!!!

And yet, his net worth is astronomical, even taking into account corporate bankruptcies. Can you imagine just how much he'd be worth without those corporate bankruptcies?

[Skipscards]

Originally Posted by jewcer2k5

I want to know why Trump.

I'm an undecided voter right now. If I were a Clinton supporter I would tell you why.


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Stop repeating yourself.

Originally Posted by jewcer2k5

Seriously? Until he gives you a reason not to? What has he EVER done that didn't benefit him. He actually comes out and says he took advantage and gave money to everyone because it benefited him. He is the definition of a narcissist. That isn't going to change.

Right, but now you can have that narcissism put to work for you!


Ok, a serious response. Like you, I haven't made up my mind. Though, for me it is down to Johnson or Trump. Here's what's rattling around in my brain:

Reason I am considering voting for Johnson:
1. If Johnson gets 5% of the vote, then the Libertarian Party gets to participate in the debates in 2020 and gets access to public funding. So, in essense my vote for Johnson may actually help change the dialogue in 2020.
2. I'm in Maryland and Hillary will likely win the state so throwing a vote to Johnson is an interesting idea.

Reason I am considering voting for Trump:
1. Both candidates suck. Having ostracized the establishment I think if Trump wins he'll find Congress unwilling to work with him from both sides of the isle (thus keeping him in check) much the way the Democratic Congress did to Carter. This means not having to worry too much about "crazy Trump".
2. The Supreme Court. I have zero interest in seeing the Court move further left. The idea of having 6 or even 7 Liberals on the court is actually more frightening to me than who wins the Presidency. I like my Supreme Court 5-4 or 4-5.

On a side note, I'd actually like to see a female President. But I'd really rather the woman who accomplishes this important milestone not be Hillary Clinton.

Don't know if any of that helps, but that's my two cents on the matter.

[jarrodsalas]

What do people think about these Trump proposed policies?

Impose a 35% import tax on Mexican border
1
44
Impose a 20% tax on all imported goods
0
45
Mandate a 15% tax for outsourcing jobs

[Addison]

Originally Posted by HillbillyCletus

I assume your quote was to somehow disparage Trump and/or his "uneducated" voters. If it was not, then I am misreading it.

My question is, should "uneducated" voters, whether they or for Trump or not, be held in any less regard than "educated" voters?

To answer your question, no. Just pointing out that he loves the poorly educated, for good reason.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by chipmaster

And Hillary does the same by promising more free stuff - that's what the Dems run on and it's hard to defeat that stance when 50% of the nation is worthless and can't even wipe their own ass.

I agree! In fact I made this exact comment in a previous post and some looney hammered me for it and called me a racist in more words.

Dems keep votes by promising more and more free stuff that doesn't actually help anybody. The dems want to keep people in poverty because that's how they keep voters.

[HillbillyCletus]

Originally Posted by Addison

To answer your question, no. Just pointing out that he loves the poorly educated, for good reason.

All people, regardless of educational background, race, sex, religion, etc...should be held in the same regard, at least in my opinion. "Poorly educated" is relative.

[Ray27Ray52]

Originally Posted by HillbillyCletus

I assume your quote was to somehow disparage Trump and/or his "uneducated" voters. If it was not, then I am misreading it.

My question is, should "uneducated" voters, whether they or for Trump or not, be held in any less regard than "educated" voters?

While Addison has conveniently left out the entirety of Trumps quote and all frame of reference, he is factually correct.

And yes, uneducated voters are essentially worthless. Why vote if you don't even know anything about the candidate. It's a big world. A little bit of homework isn't too much to ask when exercising your constitutional rights.

[jarrodsalas]

Originally Posted by Addison

To answer your question, no. Just pointing out that he loves the poorly educated, for good reason.

This statement holds no water. Where do you come up with this crap?

Edit: I guess he said something to that effect and it was taken out of context or it is now being twisted.

[HillbillyCletus]

One thing I struggle with regarding the Democratic Party and liberalism as an ideology is the idea that minorities cannot succeed in the land of opportunity without the assistance/good will of liberals/Democrats. I find this notion inherently racist.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

While Addison has conveniently left out the entirety of Trumps quote and all frame of reference, he is factually correct.

And yes, uneducated voters are essentially worthless. Why vote if you don't even know anything about the candidate. It's a big world. A little bit of homework isn't too much to ask when exercising your constitutional rights.

It's too easy to watch Fox News or MSNBC and only see one side of the story. Objectivity is a hard quality to come by these days

[HillbillyCletus]

Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

While Addison has conveniently left out the entirety of Trumps quote and all frame of reference, he is factually correct.

And yes, uneducated voters are essentially worthless. Why vote if you don't even know anything about the candidate. It's a big world. A little bit of homework isn't too much to ask when exercising your constitutional rights.

I disagree. Educationally disadvantaged voters are no better or no worse than educationally advantaged voters.

[Addison]

Originally Posted by HillbillyCletus

All people, regardless of educational background, race, sex, religion, etc...should be held in the same regard, at least in my opinion. "Poorly educated" is relative.

I believe everyone has a right to vote. That doesn't mean each voter is equally qualified in casting it.

[HillbillyCletus]

Originally Posted by Addison

I believe everyone has a right to vote. That doesn't mean each voter is equally qualified in casting it.

What "qualifies" someone to cast a vote?

[Ray27Ray52]

Originally Posted by HillbillyCletus

I disagree. Educationally disadvantaged voters are no better or no worse than educationally advantaged voters.

I do have to clarify what I mean in terms of uneducated. I am not speaking in terms of schooling. I am talking about those that show up and just push a button because they like the way a candidate styles their hair. I have no use for those voters. Neither should anyone else.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by HillbillyCletus

One thing I struggle with regarding the Democratic Party and liberalism as an ideology is the idea that minorities cannot succeed in the land of opportunity without the assistance/good will of liberals/Democrats. I find this notion inherently racist.

The problem is that the social assistance does nothing but hold people back. The Dems give the illusion that these programs are helping people but it just perpetuates the vicious cycle of poverty