****2022 College Football Everything Thread**** - Page 38

the mesiah · 10-09-2022, 01:25 PM

This week got some scintillating games!

coachnip13 · 10-09-2022, 01:33 PM

Georgia 49 Oregon 3

Checks poll….

12. Oregon

Boy, that playoff is going to be exciting.

Fenway55 · 10-09-2022, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

And now you’re mad again…

It is hilarious how mad and how petulant the whole thing makes him. I mean, he responded 3 times to one single post of mine. There is great comedic value in how totally unhinged this issue has made him.

coachnip13 · 10-09-2022, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Fenway55

It is hilarious how mad and how petulant the whole thing makes him. I mean, he responded 3 times to one single post of mine. There is great comedic value in how totally unhinged this issue has made him.

Says two guys who respond to everything I write. The most ironic part about this is that two of the three of us resort to personal shots, yet, those are the two people who keep saying “he’s so angry”. That’s the definition of no self awareness.

TheFrenzy · 10-09-2022, 01:45 PM

Is there some kind of health condition that we should factor in when interacting with you Nipples?

I'm asking out of concern here.

You've literally already argued that it's cool that an early season loss didn't knock 2021 Alabama out and now you're directly contradicting yourself here by arguing that a Week 1 loss should disqualify Oregon.

TheFrenzy · 10-09-2022, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Fenway55

It is hilarious how mad and how petulant the whole thing makes him. I mean, he responded 3 times to one single post of mine. There is great comedic value in how totally unhinged this issue has made him.

Sibs sucks, but I'll always give him credit when it's due.

He nailed it with that gif:

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Originally Posted by Siberian13

jplarson · 10-09-2022, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

Is there some kind of health condition that we should factor in when interacting with you Nipples?

Gotta cut him some slack after he got his handed to him in the 248/298 thread. He had no command over the debate and lost velocity in the face of facts so he came over here to get his daily nutritional supplements of Vitamin-Argue.

mc1 · 10-09-2022, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by coachnip13

Georgia 49 Oregon 3

Checks poll….

12. Oregon

Boy, that playoff is going to be exciting.

That game means nothing! They should be able to lose 1-2 more games and still make the playoffs!

Fenway55 · 10-09-2022, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

Sibs sucks, but I'll always give him credit when it's due.

Amen.... and what is hilarious is how he keeps responding to posts which aren't even directed towards him.... he just can't help himself. Some people just lack self control, I guess....

coachnip13 · 10-09-2022, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

Is there some kind of health condition that we should factor in when interacting with you Nipples?

I'm asking out of concern here.

You've literally already argued that it's cool that an early season loss didn't knock 2021 Alabama out and now you're directly contradicting yourself here by arguing that a Week 1 loss should disqualify Oregon.

Is this your apology for ignoring (or not understanding) post #881?

When Alabama loses by 46, give me a call.

TheFrenzy · 10-09-2022, 02:01 PM

Posting only because I have yet to see an argument against the 12-team playoff that isn't either rife with presentism or logically inconsistent.

If people are worried about blowouts then they should be lobbying to cancel everything from the Red River Shootout to the NFL's Wildcard Weekend.

coachnip13 · 10-09-2022, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jplarson

Gotta cut him some slack after he got his handed to him in the 248/298 thread. He had no command over the debate and lost velocity in the face of facts so he came over here to get his daily nutritional supplements of Vitamin-Argue.

Oh, I took the W in that thread, by far. And I continued to do so as deGrom carried his ERA of 6.00 through September despite throwing 99 mph.

Fenway55 · 10-09-2022, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mc1

That game means nothing! They should be able to lose 1-2 more games and still make the playoffs!

If Oregon wins out, then they damn well would deserve to be in a 12-team playoff. If they lose another game, they would fall too far in the rankings and wouldn't be in a 12-team playoff.

mc1 · 10-09-2022, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Fenway55

If Oregon wins out, then they damn well would deserve to be in a 12-team playoff. If they lose another game, they would fall too far in the rankings and wouldn't be in a 12-team playoff.

I never mentioned that they would win out and not deserve a spot.

I did assume that they could potentially make a 12-team playoff with 2-3 losses.

Fenway55 · 10-09-2022, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

Posting only because I have yet to see an argument against the 12-team playoff that isn't either rife with presentism or logically inconsistent.

+1 +1 +1 +1

The thing which amuses me the most, is that the whole point of having playoffs is giving teams another chance. If no one deserved a second chance after losing, then every sporting league in existence should eliminate the whole concept of the playoffs.

The Packers and the 49ers both beat the Rams last year (49ers actually beat 'em twice). Why do the Rams get a second chance?!?! Alabama whupped UGA last year. Why does UGA get a second chance??!?

Scottish Punk · 10-09-2022, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Fenway55

If Oregon wins out, then they damn well would deserve to be in a 12-team playoff. If they lose another game, they would fall too far in the rankings and wouldn't be in a 12-team playoff.

Not to mention teams change over the course of season. If Oregon/Georgia replay their game this weekend, Oregon is fully capable of winning the game. Football isn't like other sports where you need to win a best of 5. Any of the top 10-12 teams can beat any other especially if is a home game.

TheFrenzy · 10-09-2022, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mc1

That game means nothing! They should be able to lose 1-2 more games and still make the playoffs!

Do the games mean nothing or can teams only afford to lose one more?

Pick one.

Your argument seems to be:

1. The only games that matter are the ones that immediately eliminate previously undefeated P5 teams from playoff consideration.

2. But it's still fine that 1-loss teams regularly make the playoffs.

3. But it would completely devalue the regular season if 2-loss teams made the playoffs.

If there is a misunderstanding here, please clarify your position.

mc1 · 10-09-2022, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Fenway55

+1 +1 +1 +1

The thing which amuses me the most, is that the whole point of having playoffs is giving teams another chance. If no one deserved a second chance after losing, then every sporting league in existence should eliminate the whole concept of the playoffs.

The Packers and the 49ers both beat the Rams last year (49ers actually beat 'em twice). Why do the Rams get a second chance?!?! Alabama whupped UGA last year. Why does UGA get a second chance??!?

Lets stick to same year arguments. What does last year have to do with this year?

TheFrenzy · 10-09-2022, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

Not to mention teams change over the course of season. If Oregon/Georgia replay their game this weekend, Oregon is fully capable of winning the game. Football isn't like other sports where you need to win a best of 5. Any of the top 10-12 teams can beat any other especially if is a home game.

First, you write beautifully.

Second, I agree with everything you wrote.

mc1 · 10-09-2022, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

Do the games mean nothing or can teams only afford to lose one more?

Pick one.

Your argument seems to be:

1. The only games that matter are the ones that immediately eliminate previously undefeated P5 teams from playoff consideration.

2. But it's still fine that 1-loss teams regularly make the playoffs.

3. But it would completely devalue the regular season if 2-loss teams made the playoffs.

If there is a misunderstanding here, please clarify your position.

If teams with 2-3 losses make the playoffs then the regular season games lose all meaning and fans can just tune in during the playoffs.

TheFrenzy · 10-09-2022, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mc1

What does last year have to do with this year?

Because we're talking about a system that will be in place for the foreseeable future. You need a system that can account for years when one team is head and shoulders above everyone else as well as chaos years when you have 5+ teams with legitimate cases for being worthy of proving their mettle in head-to-head competition on the field.

Fenway55 · 10-09-2022, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mc1

I never mentioned that they would win out and not deserve a spot.

I did assume that they could potentially make a 12-team playoff with 2-3 losses.

With all due resepect, it isn't exactly the most brilliant observation in the world to note that there will be 2 loss teams in the expanded playoffs considering the fact that (except for the covid season) you generally only have 4 or 5 teams with no losses or 1 loss after CCG weekend.

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Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

Not to mention teams change over the course of season. If Oregon/Georgia replay their game this weekend, Oregon is fully capable of winning the game. Football isn't like other sports where you need to win a best of 5. Any of the top 10-12 teams can beat any other especially if is a home game.

Agree 100%.

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Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

Because we're talking about a system that will be in place for the foreseeable future. You need a system that can account for years when one team is head and shoulders above everyone else as well as chaos years when you have 5+ teams with legitimate cases for being worthy of proving their mettle in head-to-head competition on the field.

+1 +1 +1

mc1 · 10-09-2022, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Fenway55

With all due resepect, it isn't exactly the most brilliant observation in the world to note that there will be 2 loss teams in the expanded playoffs consider the fact that (except for the covid season) you generally only have 4 or 5 teams with no losses or 1 loss after CCG weekend.

Agree 100%.

There could be teams with 3 losses too.

mc1 · 10-09-2022, 02:23 PM

Taking last year for example. I wouldnt want to see this:

No. 12 Pittsburgh at No. 5 Georgia winner vs. 4. Baylor
No. 11 Utah at No. 6 Notre Dame winner vs. 3. Cincinnati
No. 10 Michigan State at No. 7 Ohio State winner vs. 2. Michigan
No. 9 Oklahoma State at No. 8 Ole Miss winner vs. 1. Alabama

8 teams would be ideal in my opinion. Im not completely against expansion.

coachnip13 · 10-09-2022, 02:24 PM

“Alabama losing on the last play by a field goal is the same as Oregon losing by 46” isn’t the best quote for your argument.

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coachnip13 Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Siesta Key, FL Posts: 9,643	Georgia 49 Oregon 3 Checks poll…. 12. Oregon Boy, that playoff is going to be exciting.

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TheFrenzy Banned Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Texan in AZ Posts: 44,115	Is there some kind of health condition that we should factor in when interacting with you Nipples? I'm asking out of concern here. You've literally already argued that it's cool that an early season loss didn't knock 2021 Alabama out and now you're directly contradicting yourself here by arguing that a Week 1 loss should disqualify Oregon.

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TheFrenzy Banned Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Texan in AZ Posts: 44,115	Posting only because I have yet to see an argument against the 12-team playoff that isn't either rife with presentism or logically inconsistent. If people are worried about blowouts then they should be lobbying to cancel everything from the Red River Shootout to the NFL's Wildcard Weekend.

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coachnip13 Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Siesta Key, FL Posts: 9,643	“Alabama losing on the last play by a field goal is the same as Oregon losing by 46” isn’t the best quote for your argument.