🏀🏀🏀 OFFICIAL 2023-24 NBA Finals Thread Boston Celtics V. Dallas Mavericks 🏀🏀🏀

[ninjacookies]

Scratch that.


Since 2005, teams beaten by 30 or more points in the finals are 4-0 straight up and ATS.

Gimme Clovers ML +6.5.

[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by Bosoxfan5990

How long have we heard this?

I mean, he's just dragged a team of cast offs to the Finals.

He overachieved in making the West finals a couple seasons ago. Lost to the champs. You remember, the same ones that rolled your Cs in the Finals when your boys choked

I feel like Luka will win multiple titles. Swap him with Tatum and it would be laughably easy for him. Swap Tatum/Brown for Luka and I think he's still win with that squad.

[Nomad]

Yeah but Tatum and Brown personally invested time and strategy in building up that squad. Didn't happen without the jays' central input.

[Bosoxfan5990]

Are we just ignoring how laughably bad Luka is at defense?

[PLB9eight]

Originally Posted by Nomad

Yeah but Tatum and Brown personally invested time and strategy in building up that squad. Didn't happen without the jays' central input.

sure thing

[Nomad]

To the Mavs' credit, I'm sure they built their team with Luka's input. Just saying, you can't really just hypothetically swap players .

[Orangejello727]

Originally Posted by Chris P

Maybe Luka Bag Holders will be sad. Luka fans and collectors will be happy he was able to take a 5 seeded Mavs team this far.

Originally Posted by drobfan8

I mean, he's just dragged a team of cast offs to the Finals.

He overachieved in making the West finals a couple seasons ago. Lost to the champs. You remember, the same ones that rolled your Cs in the Finals when your boys choked

I feel like Luka will win multiple titles. Swap him with Tatum and it would be laughably easy for him. Swap Tatum/Brown for Luka and I think he's still win with that squad.

Right on queue. Always happens with fanatical people. I called in the post below last week. Why oh why? A nut hugger always claims that the teams sucks when Luka loses. But when he wins its because ONLY he himself did it.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...&postcount=505

When will you learn that if you can take 100% credit for the wins, you also have to take the blame 100% for the L's too. Thats what makes you a fanatic and not a fan.

[Chris P]

Originally Posted by Orangejello727

Right on queue. Always happens with fanatical people. I called in the post below last week. Why oh why? A nut hugger always claims that the teams sucks when Luka loses. But when he wins its because ONLY he himself did it.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...&postcount=505

When will you learn that if you can take 100% credit for the wins, you also have to take the blame 100% for the L's too. Thats what makes you a fanatic and not a fan.

Did i say anything about not blaming him for losses or the team sucked? I just said he lead a 5th seeded team to the Finals..which is a successful season in my eyes. He's the leader of the team no? Learn to read before insulting people.

[Bosoxfan5990]

Originally Posted by Chris P

Did i say anything about not blaming him for losses or the team sucked? I just said he lead a 5th seeded team to the Finals..which is a successful season in my eyes. He's the leader of the team no? Learn to read before insulting people.

I'd argue Kyrie is the leader of the team.

They couldn't even make the playoffs last year until Kyrie gelled with the team.

[Chris P]

Originally Posted by Bosoxfan5990

I'd argue Kyrie is the leader of the team.

They couldn't even make the playoffs last year until Kyrie gelled with the team.

Of course you will..they made the Western Conference Finals the year before but theres no sense in going back and forth with you about it because im sure there's a non Luka reason you have why they made it.

[Bosoxfan5990]

Originally Posted by Chris P

Of course you will..they made the Western Conference Finals the year before but theres no sense in going back and forth with you about it because im sure there's a non Luka reason you have why they made it.

And got absolutely obliterated 4-1 in the series with Luka being a stunning -60.

[Chris P]

Originally Posted by Bosoxfan5990

And got absolutely obliterated 4-1 in the series with Luka being a stunning -60.

I get it dude, Luka sucks..cool deal

[Bosoxfan5990]

Originally Posted by Chris P

I get it dude, Luka sucks..cool deal

Finally admits it.

[Orangejello727]

Originally Posted by Chris P

I get it dude, Luka sucks..cool deal

Luka doesnt suck. His fanatical fans do. They need to be called out for being sore losers. Thats all. Dont take it personal. You cheer lead hard when the guy is winning and point the finger when he's losing. The jabs are well earned.

[Chris P]

Originally Posted by Orangejello727

Luka doesnt suck. His fanatical fans do. They need to be called out for being sore losers. Thats all

How is it being a sore loser exactly? If the Mavs end up losing Luka is definitely part of the blame because he's 2nd half meltdown/foulout in game 3 was huge. I responded sarcastically to a troll who said Luka Bag Holders will be sad after they lose. It will disappointing no doubt..but all I said was they exceeded expectations. They were a 5th seed with no home court and beat 3 50 win teams including the #1 seed and the team that took out the Champs. Looking at the brightside and being proud of what they accomplished this year makes me a sore loser? Is it because I said Luka led them? He's their leader in my eyes..just like Jokic is to denver SGA is to OKC etc.

[kluke84]

Originally Posted by Bosoxfan5990

Are we just ignoring how laughably bad Luka is at defense?

I'd argue some blowbacks are because when they hunt him there are only so many plays you can contest and risk fouling. He leads the playoffs with 38 steals (next is 24) and has 8 blocks.

No one said he is a defensive savant but G4 showed he can play competent defense when challenged to. Let's see if the effort remains tonight.

He shas a 108.2 defensive rating for the playoff run a 5 pt improvement on the regular season. Tatum is 107.8. Jaylen Brown is 109.5. Good luck with your team tonight.

[Chris P]

Originally Posted by kluke84

I'd argue some blowbacks are because when they hunt him there are only so many plays you can contest and risk fouling. He leads the playoffs with 38 steals (next is 24) and has 8 blocks.

No one said he is a defensive savant but G4 showed he can play competent defense when challenged to. Let's see if the effort remains tonight.

He shas a 108.2 defensive rating for the playoff run a 5 pt improvement on the regular season. Tatum is 107.8. Jaylen Brown is 109.5. Good luck with your team tonight.

Hope you aren't expecting a good faith response to that

[Bosoxfan5990]

Originally Posted by kluke84

I'd argue some blowbacks are because when they hunt him there are only so many plays you can contest and risk fouling. He leads the playoffs with 38 steals (next is 24) and has 8 blocks.

No one said he is a defensive savant but G4 showed he can play competent defense when challenged to. Let's see if the effort remains tonight.

He shas a 108.2 defensive rating for the playoff run a 5 pt improvement on the regular season. Tatum is 107.8. Jaylen Brown is 109.5. Good luck with your team tonight.

That's fair, but he needs to show defensive consistency, as you mentioned.

[rms13]

Originally Posted by kluke84

I'd argue some blowbacks are because when they hunt him there are only so many plays you can contest and risk fouling. He leads the playoffs with 38 steals (next is 24) and has 8 blocks.

No one said he is a defensive savant but G4 showed he can play competent defense when challenged to. Let's see if the effort remains tonight.

He shas a 108.2 defensive rating for the playoff run a 5 pt improvement on the regular season. Tatum is 107.8. Jaylen Brown is 109.5. Good luck with your team tonight.

Defensive rating is a very flawed stat because it is influenced by team defense so it's not really an accurate individual stat. Beyon that there is also the fact that Luka is guarding the worst offesnive player on every possession to hide how bad he is and Brown/Tatum are guarding Luka and other top offensive players. And Tatum has been guarding centers in this series.

They eyball test says that Luka generally give zero effort on defense and when he does he fouls out. He can't move his feet on defense and his only move it to try to swipe at the ball as someone goes by him.

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by Chris P

Hope you aren't expecting a good faith response to that

Don't know why you even bother.

NO ONE expected the Mavs to do this well this season. They've had a great year regardless of how this series turns out.

And I promise you, if the Mavs have another great game tonight, you and I will be the only ones in this thread for some strange reason.

[Chris P]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

Don't know why you even bother.

NO ONE expected the Mavs to do this well this season. They've had a great year regardless of how this series turns out.

And I promise you, if the Mavs have another great game tonight, you and I will be the only ones in this thread for some strange reason.

Watch it now...some people think feeling the Mavs had a great season regardless of what happens makes you a sore loser Luka fanatical

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by Chris P

Watch it now...some people think feeling the Mavs had a great season regardless of what happens makes you a sore loser Luka fanatical

Well I think there are only two possibilities right?
Either you're a bag holder or a hater who missed out. Nothing in between.

[Chris P]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

Well I think there are only two possibilities right?
Either you're a bag holder or a hater who missed out. Nothing in between.

Yup in BO world it can only be those two

[Kingofkings1281]

Atmosphere out here is just wow. Getting to go to this game is a dream.

[yiguiri2002]

I never thought I'll see an argument about how the best player in the Finals is not doing enough or it's at fault for not winning the Finals.