Fernando Tatis Jr - Page 385

pewe · 04-28-2021, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

note: PSA is no longer offering crossover services

They will not accept cards that have been cracked out of other graders holders and submitted??? How could they even police that?

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pewe · 04-28-2021, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

not that it matters, but the "crossover game" was REALLY easy back in 2014 - 2016

What made it easier back then?

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ThoseBackPages · 04-28-2021, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pewe

They will not accept cards that have been cracked out of other graders holders and submitted??? How could they even police that?

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crackouts are fine

SupermanBrandon · 04-28-2021, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pewe

They will not accept cards that have been cracked out of other graders holders and submitted??? How could they even police that?

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No. They are not accepting slabbed cards for crossover services.

ThoseBackPages · 04-28-2021, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pewe

What made it easier back then?

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honestly, i think BGS was stricter with their grading then

ovrcollect · 04-28-2021, 01:13 PM

This is probably a hill I'll die on, but I still feel the Tatis All Star Game Stamp from the Complete Set is a deal in comparison with his Base Flagship. I get it's a pull from Complete Sets, but pop 362 vs 12,000+ (jeez, that escalated quickly.)

I've sold out of all 3 of my flagship PSA 10s, but I'm holding the All-Star.

SupermanBrandon · 04-28-2021, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by pewe

What made it easier back then?

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For the past 2 years I was probably in the 65-70% success range of crossing BGS slabs to PSA 10s. In my final 12 express crossover attempts that I sent to PSA before the shutdown, I went 0 for 12. They cracked down hard. It wasn't just bad luck.

pewe · 04-28-2021, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

night and day IMO

I found a recent source... looks like Collectors Universe is approximately 1.5x the size (revenue) as Beckett

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ThoseBackPages · 04-28-2021, 01:13 PM

other than the Finest, these were all purchased as True Gems

i tried once on the paper draft, but it really is over-graded so i left it as is

pewe · 04-28-2021, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

For the past 2 years I was probably in the 65-70% success range of crossing BGS slabs to PSA 10s. In my final 12 express crossover attempts that I sent to PSA before the shutdown, I went 0 for 12. They cracked down hard. It wasn't just bad luck.

Do you think the BGS grading declined? Or PSA just decided to frustrate crossover grades?

Said another way: if you cracked yourself, do you think your legacy success rate would remain? Or are the BGS 9.5 gem mint no longer what they are stacked up to be?

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pewe · 04-28-2021, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

No. They are not accepting slabbed cards for crossover services.

I could imagine why: the risk of damage must be high. I’ve never tried cracking, but the idea scares me

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ThoseBackPages · 04-28-2021, 01:19 PM

These as well

another thing that people have to keep in mind is that the hobby back then was MUCH different.

the "monetary value" was waaaaaaaaay less. None of those trouts i showed cost me over $50

the Lebron was $300 and the Kobe was $500 when i crossed them over

HarryLime · 04-28-2021, 01:35 PM

This gets my vote. Got it for less than a refractor. It's a "Sapphire," to boot.

Arthur

SupermanBrandon · 04-28-2021, 01:36 PM

Beautiful card Arthur!

wharfrat7624 · 04-28-2021, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

other than the Finest, these were all purchased as True Gems

i tried once on the paper draft, but it really is over-graded so i left it as is

Very nice Eric!

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wharfrat7624 · 04-28-2021, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

For the past 2 years I was probably in the 65-70% success range of crossing BGS slabs to PSA 10s. In my final 12 express crossover attempts that I sent to PSA before the shutdown, I went 0 for 12. They cracked down hard. It wasn't just bad luck.

Three years ago I sent in 4 BC Trout TG’s to cross over and all came back 10’s. After that, I was like 0 for 6 and haven’t submitted crossovers in a while. I will crack out going forward.

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SupermanBrandon · 04-28-2021, 01:58 PM

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Three years ago I sent in 4 BC Trout TG’s to cross over and all came back 10’s. After that, I was like 0 for 6 and haven’t submitted crossovers in a while. I will crack out going forward.

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If I was a betting man, I would guess that crossing slabs will no longer be a thing at PSA...moving forward. I think they will do away with it.

HarryLime · 04-28-2021, 01:58 PM

Remember kids, just like on the street, always choose crack.

Arthur

ThoseBackPages · 04-28-2021, 02:00 PM

well, NOW there is no choice but to crack.

having said that, i agree that if they were to bring it back, i would recommend cracking out

wharfrat7624 · 04-28-2021, 02:11 PM

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If I was a betting man, I would guess that crossing slabs will no longer be a thing at PSA...moving forward. I think they will do away with it.

Agreed.

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TaylorLH · 04-28-2021, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pewe

I could imagine why: the risk of damage must be high. I’ve never tried cracking, but the idea scares me

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Nice part of cracking a BGS slab is the card is in their little sleeve, i still dont recommend, theres plenty of group graders who do it without issue but theres definitely a risk

seanrs1 · 04-28-2021, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ovrcollect

This is probably a hill I'll die on, but I still feel the Tatis All Star Game Stamp from the Complete Set is a deal in comparison with his Base Flagship. I get it's a pull from Complete Sets, but pop 362 vs 12,000+ (jeez, that escalated quickly.)

I've sold out of all 3 of my flagship PSA 10s, but I'm holding the All-Star.

I agree with you 100%. I own one #410 PSA10 and 4 All-Star complete sets PSA10's. Maybe the market never corrects itself, but I would not be surprised if one day it was selling for double or triple. I kind of equate it to Ronald Acuna Jr. US250 and chrome. Last year at this time the chromes were going for way less. The market corrected over the past few months.

jasonm2121 · 04-28-2021, 03:29 PM

PSA is much stricter overall on all grades. I get 9s on perfect cards now, used to have very good luck with crosses up until 2018.

PFF100 · 04-28-2021, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

these are staple parallels IMO

Thanks brother!

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pewe · 04-28-2021, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jasonm2121

PSA is much stricter overall on all grades. I get 9s on perfect cards now, used to have very good luck with crosses up until 2018.

Some of the most perfect cards I own are PSA 9s

They look better than some PSA 10s

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04-28-2021, 01:13 PM	#9609
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 90,310 ThoseBackPages	other than the Finest, these were all purchased as True Gems i tried once on the paper draft, but it really is over-graded so i left it as is __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

04-28-2021, 01:19 PM	#9612
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 90,310 ThoseBackPages	These as well another thing that people have to keep in mind is that the hobby back then was MUCH different. the "monetary value" was waaaaaaaaay less. None of those trouts i showed cost me over $50 the Lebron was $300 and the Kobe was $500 when i crossed them over __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

04-28-2021, 02:00 PM	#9619
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 90,310 ThoseBackPages	well, NOW there is no choice but to crack. having said that, i agree that if they were to bring it back, i would recommend cracking out __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

04-28-2021, 01:13 PM	#9606
ovrcollect Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: California Posts: 1,111	This is probably a hill I'll die on, but I still feel the Tatis All Star Game Stamp from the Complete Set is a deal in comparison with his Base Flagship. I get it's a pull from Complete Sets, but pop 362 vs 12,000+ (jeez, that escalated quickly.) I've sold out of all 3 of my flagship PSA 10s, but I'm holding the All-Star.

04-28-2021, 01:35 PM	#9613
HarryLime Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Spaceball 1 Posts: 4,794	This gets my vote. Got it for less than a refractor. It's a "Sapphire," to boot. Arthur

04-28-2021, 01:36 PM	#9614
SupermanBrandon Banned Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: TN Posts: 15,843	Beautiful card Arthur!

04-28-2021, 01:58 PM	#9618
HarryLime Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Spaceball 1 Posts: 4,794	Remember kids, just like on the street, always choose crack. Arthur

04-28-2021, 03:29 PM	#9623
jasonm2121 Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: GOAT City Posts: 12,007	PSA is much stricter overall on all grades. I get 9s on perfect cards now, used to have very good luck with crosses up until 2018.