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Old 04-28-2019, 07:36 AM   #9601
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My Acura stuff is not as high end as some, but these are all from random packs I have opened. Probably a few more I have yet to locate.
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Old 04-28-2019, 07:43 AM   #9602
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You shi++ing me? You declined a "base" card $1500 offer? Right now, that's barely a $100 card as PSA 10. If you could get 15x that amount as a Black Label, you gotta accept that immediately. I'd put the upper end of the Black range as 8-10x over a PSA 10. If you get more than that, don't play around with it.



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Old 04-28-2019, 08:13 AM   #9603
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Nice cards everyone! My recent pick up (my second S2 bat down BGS 10). Bought few Topps Archives PSA 10's as well.

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Old 04-28-2019, 08:30 AM   #9604
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Nice cards everyone! My recent pick up (my second S2 bat down BGS 10). Bought few Topps Archives PSA 10's as well.

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Awesome! Always gets me how the “centering” on a borderless card can be the only thing keeping a card from a black label.


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Old 04-28-2019, 09:02 AM   #9605
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Found two more hangers and pulled a Gold Update US250. Has a white tip top right corner. Perfect.


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0747/2018... That one just got posted on Ebay with what looks to be a nasty white top left corner.

and he's asking $139.99 for it LOL!
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Old 04-28-2019, 09:54 AM   #9606
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Awesome! Always gets me how the “centering” on a borderless card can be the only thing keeping a card from a black label.


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Thanks. Not sure what criteria the graders use for centering on such cards.
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Old 04-28-2019, 09:58 AM   #9607
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Thanks. Not sure what criteria the graders use for centering on such cards.
The back of the card.
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Old 04-28-2019, 10:04 AM   #9608
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The back of the card.

This. BGS definitely uses the back of the card in their grading scores. The back is really easy to tell L/R and T/B on these.
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Old 04-28-2019, 10:20 AM   #9609
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The back of the card.
Good to know. Someone here mentioned that they look at the distance of letter A from the front corner (something like that) which was little confusing. For Soto's TU and TCU, it is the letter "W". Not sure if the graders use these as one of their criteria.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?p=14430380

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I can see why the original 9 for centering. The big Atlanta ‘A’ is closer to the left edge on the clear vs the Father’s Day and Black with better centering subs.

I think all this sub bumping is madness imho. I graded regularly with BGS for over a decade and never crossed my mind to resubmit no matter how disappointed, even PC cards. I guess more power to you, but the clear was a fine 9 anyways which is still awesome for acetate.
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Old 04-28-2019, 10:27 AM   #9610
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Not slamming the prospective seller, but damn, with that offer I would have taken the money and smiled for a week.
I overpaid + not in a hurry to sell. Its my only black label
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Old 04-28-2019, 10:30 AM   #9611
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Topps logo should be equal distance from the right and top borders.
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Old 04-28-2019, 10:35 AM   #9612
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Topps logo should be equal distance from the right and top borders.
Also this. Thanks. I thought it was you who mentioned the topps logo but was not sure How do we know for sure if the graders are using these (distance of Letter A or W and Topps Logo)?

Someone else also mentioned something similar...

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On borderless cards the companies usually look at the brand logo, in this case the Topps Chrome logo in the top left corner. The closer they are to equal distance from the edge left to right and top to bottom the better the centering grade. Having said that, PSA has given 10's to the Acuna Topps Chrome rookie when it looks off 75/25 top to bottom so evidently they're being very lenient on that card specifically.
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Old 04-28-2019, 10:36 AM   #9613
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Good to know. Someone here mentioned that they look at the distance of letter A from the front corner (something like that) which was little confusing. For Soto's TU and TCU, it is the letter "W". Not sure if the graders use these as one of their criteria.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?p=14430380

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Great explanation... a little different than I expected. Thanks for digging it up!
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Old 04-28-2019, 10:44 AM   #9614
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Good to know. Someone here mentioned that they look at the distance of letter A from the front corner (something like that) which was little confusing. For Soto's TU and TCU, it is the letter "W". Not sure if the graders use these as one of their criteria.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?p=14430380

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Going to have to disagree with the “W” theory for Soto. And I was a subscriber to this theory originally. I had 45+ Soto Base and various hits go to BGS. The W grades were all over the map. I have 9’s that have perfect W’s with centering 9. I have 10’s with 9.5 centering with partial W and everything between. Maybe just my batch but I honestly felt it was somewhat random.
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Old 04-28-2019, 10:48 AM   #9615
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Great explanation... a little different than I expected. Thanks for digging it up!
My pleasure. I am trying to educate myself too

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Going to have to disagree with the “W” theory for Soto. And I was a subscriber to this theory originally. I had 45+ Soto Base and various hits go to BGS. The W grades were all over the map. I have 9’s that have perfect W’s with centering 9. I have 10’s with 9.5 centering with partial W and everything between. Maybe just my batch but I honestly felt it was somewhat random.
Ok, Thanks. So distance of Letter A and W is probably not a criteria used for centering. Has anyone looked at the distance of Topps or Topps Chrome logo and see if it correlates well with centering on graded cards?
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Old 04-28-2019, 10:53 AM   #9616
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Holy cow -- what is happening with the base Update US250? I must have been sleeping on these while trying to scoop up all the Bellingers I could find. They are almost $20 on eBay and the lowest one on COMC is $39. Did I miss something? I'm sitting on about 100 Topps Update Blaster boxes from that 50% off sale they had last year but the prices on those aren't moving at all. Either the Acuna price is unsustainable or the Blaster prices need to take off. Not sure which situation we're in...
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Old 04-28-2019, 10:57 AM   #9617
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The Trout and Yelich factor have played into this spike in prices. I can't speak for blaster box prices but Hobby and Jumbo have both exploded as well.
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Old 04-28-2019, 10:58 AM   #9618
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Holy cow -- what is happening with the base Update US250? I must have been sleeping on these while trying to scoop up all the Bellingers I could find. They are almost $20 on eBay and the lowest one on COMC is $39. Did I miss something? I'm sitting on about 100 Topps Update Blaster boxes from that 50% off sale they had last year but the prices on those aren't moving at all. Either the Acuna price is unsustainable or the Blaster prices need to take off. Not sure which situation we're in...
Blasters have been pretty bad for acuna’s but hangers and fat packs have been picking it up because they have been pretty good. And yes they took a big jump this past week
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Old 04-28-2019, 10:58 AM   #9619
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Honestly, BGS is so inconsistent with the centering on 2018 Flagship because I’m sure all they do is eyeball it, especially on the base.
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Old 04-28-2019, 11:27 AM   #9620
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Sent in about 12 Acunas to PSA, hopefully they are 10s
9 250s
1 HHN
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1 Standing chrome update
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Old 04-28-2019, 11:31 AM   #9621
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A rainbow foil update just sold for $117... there they go!
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Old 04-28-2019, 11:44 AM   #9622
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Very nice indeed!

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Old 04-28-2019, 11:59 AM   #9623
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Holy cow -- what is happening with the base Update US250? I must have been sleeping on these while trying to scoop up all the Bellingers I could find. They are almost $20 on eBay and the lowest one on COMC is $39. Did I miss something? I'm sitting on about 100 Topps Update Blaster boxes from that 50% off sale they had last year but the prices on those aren't moving at all. Either the Acuna price is unsustainable or the Blaster prices need to take off. Not sure which situation we're in...
blasters seem to be moving at SRP, which is double what you paid
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Old 04-28-2019, 12:18 PM   #9624
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Blasters have been pretty bad for acuna’s but hangers and fat packs have been picking it up because they have been pretty good. And yes they took a big jump this past week
I was on vacay in Florida this past week, grabbed the 6 blasters at the pompano Walmart and hit 4 Acuna 250s
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Old 04-28-2019, 12:23 PM   #9625
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Difficult not to open this product with the break up value and chances at big hits. Appears to still be opened up at an amazing rate. Unopened could continue to rise
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