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Old 06-17-2016, 11:36 AM   #76
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The only people who will say it's rigged are the warrior fans that can't comprehend what is going on right now.
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Old 06-17-2016, 11:36 AM   #77
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Revenue from what? The TV deal is already in place. The NBA has already made its money whether the finals go 4 or 7 games.
Game five had 20.5 million viewers. Ad revenue, merchandise, etc.

Game six peaked with 16.7 MM
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Old 06-17-2016, 11:37 AM   #78
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The league convinced Curry to blow in the finals. They did it by paying him how much money? Was it more than the long term sponsorships he would have gathered being a back to back leader of a championship team? Curry has no incentive to play this poorly, he is losing money right now. If he leads a team to the best nba record, get MVP, breaks a bunch of player records, and then loses after going up 3-1 in the finals, he sponsorship opportunities are negatively impacted.

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Old 06-17-2016, 11:37 AM   #79
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The only people who will say it's rigged are the warrior fans that can't comprehend what is going on right now.
Amen brother. Preach on!
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Old 06-17-2016, 11:39 AM   #80
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You do realize having a 7 game series like this helps with regards to negotiating future tv deals and advertising rates.
You do realize it doesn't correct? The Previous TV deal had 3 game 7s during it's run, as opposed to 8 series decided in 4 or 5 games. In fact, the new TV deal that starts next season was negotiated after a 4-1 Spurs Finals victory. One of the smallest market teams winning in 5 games over the leagues most marketable star! The NBA should be paying the networks to broadcast these games
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Old 06-17-2016, 11:39 AM   #81
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Mafia? Bookies? Etc?

Where's the proof in that? None of those people care who wins these games, just that spreads and over/unders push. Bookies could care less who even plays in the finals, there's going to be a line on the game regardless.
Not sure, but when Oklahoma went up 3-1, did you happen to see what it did to the betting odds in vegas??
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Old 06-17-2016, 11:40 AM   #82
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So it's ok for green to hit Lebron in the Crown Jewels? I don't care if Lebron instigated it. You just don't do that.
He didn't hit him there...LeBron stepped over him...Green didn't really do anything in that instance....NBA was just looking for any excuse. Need to prolong the series, which they successfully did.
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Old 06-17-2016, 11:40 AM   #83
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Not sure, but when Oklahoma went up 3-1, did you happen to see what it did to the betting odds in vegas??
You know how odds/spreads/lines are made, right?

You know why the line moved down on the game during the day right? You realize that after Game 1 some books were going off at Cavs +375? What's your point?
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Old 06-17-2016, 11:41 AM   #84
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He already has plently of long term sponsors lock up
You get a billion dollar lifetime contract if you dominate at a championship level for years (see Lebron).

Plenty doesn't mean he is set for life. He isn't a legend yet, he is a guy who shoots the ball. This would be embarrassing for him and the Warriors. Best regular season record, and lose when up 3-1.

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Old 06-17-2016, 11:45 AM   #85
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You guys keep talking about "TV deal" like only American has TV. Other markets (ex. China) make money for NBA.
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Old 06-17-2016, 11:53 AM   #86
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These threads make me laugh and laugh (at least parts of it)

I worked for a Professional sports team as the Controller. I had daily reports after every game to see exactly what the bottom line was. I literally put together all the numbers for 82 games plus the playoffs. Multiple times a week. I've seen it from Game 1 all the way through the last game of a Finals series.

The numbers people throw around are simply crazy town. CRAZY TOWN.

You'll make some good per cap on alcohol. That's about it.

There isn't a league or team on the planet that makes enough $$ having one extra game to rig something... now are the networks happy? ratings good? Sure... that's good publicity and I guess you can use that to get another TV deal in a decade?

It's all about looking good.

There is absolutely no material money difference in having a 7 game series.
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Old 06-17-2016, 11:53 AM   #87
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He didn't hit him there...LeBron stepped over him...Green didn't really do anything in that instance....NBA was just looking for any excuse. Need to prolong the series, which they successfully did.
So he didn't hit him in the ballz? And let me guess he didn't kick Adams there either?

Cmon man.
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Old 06-17-2016, 11:55 AM   #88
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Old 06-17-2016, 11:57 AM   #89
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From a Minnesota fan:

The NBA Draft Lottery is rigged....took the Wolves forever to win it.

The NBA Draft is rigged...why else would David Kahn pass on Steph TWICE?

So the NBA season is rigged...that's why the T-wolves have never won the title.



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Old 06-17-2016, 12:10 PM   #90
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NBA....where FIXED happens !
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Old 06-17-2016, 01:37 PM   #91
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Let's assume the NBA is rigged, what's the most logical (strange to use those two words) rigging for Game 7?

Is it for Golden State, to give the back-to-back MVP back-to-back titles after they were down 3-1 in the previous round before gutting out a 7 game Finals series win?

Or is it for Cleveland, to give perhaps the best all-around player his third title after being down 3-1 in this year's Finals which would be a first title with his hometown team that he once famously turned his back on only to return and then come back from a Finals defeat to the same opponent last year?
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Old 06-17-2016, 01:46 PM   #92
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I wouldn't say rigged. Influenced to a certain degree, yes, but I don't believe that the outcomes are decided ahead of time.
This ^, I often say the nba is the most rigged sport in all of pro sports (huge college fan nowadays). but heavily influenced is the word needed. they can only help a team out with so many bad calls and still make the officiating realistic.
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Old 06-17-2016, 01:49 PM   #93
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Let's assume the NBA is rigged, what's the most logical (strange to use those two words) rigging for Game 7?

Is it for Golden State, to give the back-to-back MVP back-to-back titles after they were down 3-1 in the previous round before gutting out a 7 game Finals series win?

Or is it for Cleveland, to give perhaps the best all-around player his third title after being down 3-1 in this year's Finals which would be a first title with his hometown team that he once famously turned his back on only to return and then come back from a Finals defeat to the same opponent last year?
Reason?

To make sure this is the NBA finals, not the OKC vs GS being the "Finals" that people talked about just A WEEK AGO.
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Old 06-17-2016, 02:01 PM   #94
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I don't think the NBA is rigged. I do think they try to influence the game with calls. Like someone said here, a 5 game NBA Finals is not competitive and doesn't make much money.. but a 6 or 7 game series brings more excitement and more money. I think money is the biggest factor to influence a NBA Finals series longer. More merchandise, more ticket sales, and more commercials to sell while on TV.

There is no question that half of Stephen Curry's fouls were very questionable. I don't remember when the last time he has ever fouled out.. and for it to happen in a game 6 finals? And if the Cavs were up 3-1, Draymond probably wouldn't of gotten suspended for his game 4 incident with LeBron.

That is my 2 cents on the topic.
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I don't think the NBA is rigged. I do think they try to influence the game with calls. Like someone said here, a 5 game NBA Finals is not competitive and doesn't make much money.. but a 6 or 7 game series brings more excitement and more money. I think money is the biggest factor to influence a NBA Finals series longer. More merchandise, more ticket sales, and more commercials to sell while on TV.

There is no question that half of Stephen Curry's fouls were very questionable. I don't remember when the last time he has ever fouled out.. and for it to happen in a game 6 finals? And if the Cavs were up 3-1, Draymond probably wouldn't of gotten suspended for his game 4 incident with LeBron.

That is my 2 cents on the topic.
100% CORRECT. It's rigged....16 million viewers per game...this isn't ending in 5 games if they can help it.....and they helped the probability by removing Green.

Doesn't mean that ensures the outcome...but it helps.

I can guarantee you this...if that play happened in game 6, there is NO WAY IN HELL Draymond is issued a flagrant and suspended in a take all GAME 7. NEVER!!!

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Old 06-17-2016, 02:04 PM   #96
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If the NBA is so rigged for money, then why would they only have accumilated about 4-5 game 7's in the Finals over the past 30 years or so. Wouldnt there be a 7 game series every Finals if it was all rigged?
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Old 06-17-2016, 02:06 PM   #97
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It was rigged when they gave Curry a unanimous mvp
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Old 06-17-2016, 02:06 PM   #98
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So are any Finals series legit? When did they start fixing them to go for seven games? Are all controversial calls in post-season due to NBA fix?
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Absolutely it is, they're businessmen. Does anyone really believe that it stopped after the whole ref points shaving scandal. Probably the same people that think that steroids are out of baseball. The amount of money and viewership that is going to be had with having a Game 7 on a weekend holiday Sunday where most people will be home relaxing is astronomical compared to having the series end on a Thursday night? It's an easy call for them to make
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If the NBA is so rigged for money, then why would they only have accumilated about 4-5 game 7's in the Finals over the past 30 years or so. Wouldnt there be a 7 game series every Finals if it was all rigged?
Like I said, they can only INFLUENCE a call. They cannot make shots for the players and put up points on the board without the players making it. If it was up to the NBA, there would be a game 7 in every NBA Final.. but they cannot guarantee a win for a team. The refs can only HELP a team with calls.. but sometimes a team cannot score. That is why there hasn't been more game 7's.
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