CFB: Dan Mullen to Florida, Greg Schiano to the Vols

[Scottish Punk]

Originally Posted by ClipsandVols

Also a TN fan (clearly). I guess that puts you in the 5% SJW category then?

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What the hell does SJW stand for? I get so lost on these new hip twitter acronyms.

Now get off my lawn!!!

[pgisback]

Originally Posted by JCC6603

Wrong.....this isn't about football. I'm a Tennessee fan, and it's one thing to stink, it's another thing to not know for sure deep down that you can pull for your team. Just being associated with the Penn State stuff, whether or not he knew, should disqualify him for a position like this. Trot him out at the press conference, and what will the first question be? It won't be about Tennessee football. And it's not Schiano's fault, it's poor leadership from Tennessee, they all need to go today before we hire our next coach, but that won't happen.

So the guy can't get a job because someone else did something wrong? The previous poster is right... that's SJW 101.

[pgisback]

Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

What the hell does SJW stand for? I get so lost on these new hip twitter acronyms.

Now get off my lawn!!!

Social justice warrior

"A person who causes problems for normal people through protest and constant nagging because they cant accept that life ins't fair"

[ClipsandVols]

Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

What the hell does SJW stand for? I get so lost on these new hip twitter acronyms.

Now get off my lawn!!!

Lol social justice warrior

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[JCC6603]

Originally Posted by pgisback

So the guy can't get a job because someone else did something wrong? The previous poster is right... that's SJW 101.

Sorry, if he has a 1% chance of being involved I don't want him to be the coach. Call me what you want but that's how I feel. I'd rather lose than do that. May be unfair to him but why go down that road?

[pgisback]

Originally Posted by JCC6603

Sorry, if he has a 1% chance of being involved I don't want him to be the coach. Call me what you want but that's how I feel. I'd rather lose than do that. May be unfair to him but why go down that road?

There is no road to go down. The investigation is over and investigators didn't even feel Schiano was worth talking to because of how he had absolutely nothing to do with another mans actions. Penalizing him for your own self righteousness is ridiculous.

[NoleinJax]

Looks like Jimbo may be leaving FSU. I can't say I'd be terribly disappointed.

[JCC6603]

Originally Posted by pgisback

There is no road to go down. The investigation is over and investigators didn't even feel Schiano was worth talking to because of how he had absolutely nothing to do with another mans actions. Penalizing him for your own self righteousness is ridiculous.

Again, call me what you want. There are 100 other coaches that could be hired that have no background issues. There is sworn testimony that he knew, I don't know and you don't know if he did or not. The testimony came out in 2016 in a civil suit after the criminal investigations ended. I don't want anything to do with it whether he knew or not, and that's probably unfair to him.

[Mister2Bits]

Originally Posted by NoleinJax

Looks like Jimbo may be leaving FSU. I can't say I'd be terribly disappointed.

Yeah - winning a national title must really suck.

[sak0309]

Originally Posted by JCC6603

Again, call me what you want. There are 100 other coaches that could be hired that have no background issues. There is sworn testimony that he knew, I don't know and you don't know if he did or not. The testimony came out in 2016 in a civil suit after the criminal investigations ended. I don't want anything to do with it whether he knew or not, and that's probably unfair to him.

I agree 100%. Why would any university want to take on the risk of something blowing up down the road. Let him go coach in the pros.

[HP7163]

Originally Posted by Mister2Bits

Yeah - winning a national title must really suck.

And don't forget having your pick of the best athletes in Florida ... terrible job to have ha

[p.thomaston]

I've been to Neyland a few times to watch the Vols face off with Auburn, it's truly a beautiful place. Tennessee has a great history minus recent HC issues. I really hope the program and the fans get a top tier coach to help turn things around. It's a really tough position to not know who that is, so I think in fear of losing recruits and letting rumors swirl the AD rushed the decision. Just take a deep breath, pull it together, the wins will follow down the road.

[TWard]

As a Bama fan, i find this all pretty funny.

[p.thomaston]

Originally Posted by TWard

As a Bama fan, i find this all pretty funny.

After the way they played Saturday I’d imagine you need a good laugh.

Love you Tyler.

[TWard]

Originally Posted by p.thomaston

After the way they played Saturday I’d imagine you need a good laugh.



Love you Tyler.

Ugh, I know right. It’s been a bad 3 days haha... Bama lost, Colts choked (again) and the Grizzlies just fired their HC. So things could be better. Oh well, it is what it is.

Usually when i get a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach, it turns out being right. It happened with both Ole Miss years, Texas A&M with Manziel, the first of the 2 LSU games in the BCS era, the Clemson title game last year and Auburn this year. It just wasn’t meant to be. Auburn was the better team and they wanted it more, i have no problem admitting that.... but it still sucks haha.

Love you too buddy.

[HP7163]

Originally Posted by p.thomaston

I've been to Neyland a few times to watch the Vols face off with Auburn, it's truly a beautiful place. Tennessee has a great history minus recent HC issues. I really hope the program and the fans get a top tier coach to help turn things around. It's a really tough position to not know who that is, so I think in fear of losing recruits and letting rumors swirl the AD rushed the decision. Just take a deep breath, pull it together, the wins will follow down the road.

I've always wondered how the facilities were at Tennessee? Alabama has been putting tons of $$$ into the program and facilities so it is an easy decision.. Ive also heard that Tennessee brass is disconnected to the reality that they're not Alabama.. they're not even Florida state when it comes to jobs so getting some huge name isn't easy when you can't even beat Vandy, Kentucky or Mizzou.. Tennessee fans are almost like Florida in the realm they don't realize how far they are from programs like Bama or heck even Georgia now

[HP7163]

Has to be fake news .. Tennessee reaching out to Jason Witten ? Ha..

[TWard]

Originally Posted by HP7163

I've always wondered how the facilities were at Tennessee? Alabama has been putting tons of $$$ into the program and facilities so it is an easy decision.. Ive also heard that Tennessee brass is disconnected to the reality that they're not Alabama.. they're not even Florida state when it comes to jobs so getting some huge name isn't easy when you can't even beat Vandy, Kentucky or Mizzou.. Tennessee fans are almost like Florida in the realm they don't realize how far they are from programs like Bama or heck even Georgia now

The sad part about it is the talent is there. They’ve had many talented players for years now and have had solid recruiting classes but the coaching just ain’t there.

Kirk Herbstreit said it best several weeks ago on Gameday that the Vols have the pieces but instead of playing as a cohesive unit and playing for one another, they’re just playing for themselves. It’s basically the “all me” mentality.

If they can get a good coach that can instill a cohesiveness and unselfishness into his players, then they can go places. But until then, they won’t.

As someone who lives in Tennessee, it seems most of the Vols fans think that someone like Jon Gruden, Dabo Swinney, Urban Meyer, Jim Harbaugh, Bob Stoops or someone of that magnitude is gonna come walking through that door. Well, they’re not. Knoxville isn’t an ideal situation right now. They’re not gonna get a superstar coach, they may not even get a star coach. They’re gonna have to settle for someone like Schiano, Larry Fedora, Dino Babers, Dana Holgorsen, Bronco Mendenhall or Bobby Petrino (not saying any of those last 5 would go there) for the vacancy... aka someone that isn’t a superstar but isn’t necessarily bad either. Just somewhere in the middle.

[HP7163]

Originally Posted by TWard

The sad part about it is the talent is there. They’ve had many talented players for years now and have had solid recruiting classes but the coaching just ain’t there.

Kirk Herbstreit said it best several weeks ago on Gameday that the Vols have the pieces but instead of playing as a cohesive unit and playing for one another, they’re just playing for themselves. It’s basically the “all me” mentality.

If they can get a good coach that can instill a cohesiveness and unselfishness into his players, then they can go places. But until then, they won’t.

As someone who lives in Tennessee, it seems most of the Vols fans think that someone like Jon Gruden, Dabo Swinney, Urban Meyer, Jim Harbaugh, Bob Stoops or someone of that magnitude is gonna come walking through that door. Well, they’re not. Knoxville isn’t an ideal situation right now. They’re not gonna get a superstar coach, they may not even get a star coach. They’re gonna have to settle for someone like Schiano, Larry Fedora, Dino Babers, Dana Holgorsen, Bronco Mendenhall or Bobby Petrino (not saying any of those last 5 would go there) for the vacancy... aka someone that isn’t a superstar but isn’t necessarily bad either. Just somewhere in the middle.

Yes, the talent I had heard has been there like last season all the pre season hype was about the potential big time offense for Tennessee then it was up/down all year. I don't dislike Tennessee but yes they're prob gonna have to go grab someone like Petrino who I think would be perfect.. he knows the region and though comes off shady, can recruit well.

[Cavaliercards]

Originally Posted by TWard

The sad part about it is the talent is there. They’ve had many talented players for years now and have had solid recruiting classes but the coaching just ain’t there.

Kirk Herbstreit said it best several weeks ago on Gameday that the Vols have the pieces but instead of playing as a cohesive unit and playing for one another, they’re just playing for themselves. It’s basically the “all me” mentality.

If they can get a good coach that can instill a cohesiveness and unselfishness into his players, then they can go places. But until then, they won’t.

As someone who lives in Tennessee, it seems most of the Vols fans think that someone like Jon Gruden, Dabo Swinney, Urban Meyer, Jim Harbaugh, Bob Stoops or someone of that magnitude is gonna come walking through that door. Well, they’re not. Knoxville isn’t an ideal situation right now. They’re not gonna get a superstar coach, they may not even get a star coach. They’re gonna have to settle for someone like Schiano, Larry Fedora, Dino Babers, Dana Holgorsen, Bronco Mendenhall or Bobby Petrino (not saying any of those last 5 would go there) for the vacancy... aka someone that isn’t a superstar but isn’t necessarily bad either. Just somewhere in the middle.

Bronco wouldn't go there because of the lack of academic integrity and lack of moral code by the school. There is a reason his two jobs have been BYU and UVA.

[Cervantes]

lol

Judging by a few responses from Vols fans, I guess a nerve was struck.

I probably used the wrong words. Sure, Tennessee ''deserves'' a top-tier coach. Who doesn't? Of course they should want a top-tier coach, but what I should have said is there are a lot of Tennessee fans who expect a top-tier coach, or a huge-name coach.

In the first place, name all of the top-tier coaches out there. How many is there? Not many. Now, as a Tennessee fan, take a Nick Saban, or Jon Gruden, or maybe Urban or Dabo.

I think those are top-tier coaches (along with Gruden, I guess)...so why would they want to go to Tennessee? I guess that was my point. Great tradition, sure. Great fanbase, sure.

I just chuckled at so many rabid Vols fans who expected a huge hire.

You're Tennessee. That was my point. Sorry if it offends you, but it's the truth.

The SEC is better when the Vols are successful, but it's been a while.

Oh, and UF > UT.

[calculusdork]

Originally Posted by Cervantes

lol

Judging by a few responses from Vols fans, I guess a nerve was struck.

I probably used the wrong words. Sure, Tennessee ''deserves'' a top-tier coach. Who doesn't? Of course they should want a top-tier coach, but what I should have said is there are a lot of Tennessee fans who expect a top-tier coach, or a huge-name coach.

In the first place, name all of the top-tier coaches out there. How many is there? Not many. Now, as a Tennessee fan, take a Nick Saban, or Jon Gruden, or maybe Urban or Dabo.

I think those are top-tier coaches (along with Gruden, I guess)...so why would they want to go to Tennessee? I guess that was my point. Great tradition, sure. Great fanbase, sure.

I just chuckled at so many rabid Vols fans who expected a huge hire.

You're Tennessee. That was my point. Sorry if it offends you, but it's the truth.

The SEC is better when the Vols are successful, but it's been a while.

Oh, and UF > UT.

Apparently David Cutcliffe turned down Tennessee to stay at Duke, so, uhhhh ... yeah, that's where UT is right now.

[packman80]

Originally Posted by calculusdork

Apparently David Cutcliffe turned down Tennessee to stay at Duke, so, uhhhh ... yeah, that's where UT is right now.

Rumor is they are now looking at Tee Martin as a coach.

[TWard]

Originally Posted by packman80

Rumor is they are now looking at Tee Martin as a coach.

Looks like Mike Gundy has interviewed for it as well.

[TWard]

Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

Bronco wouldn't go there because of the lack of academic integrity and lack of moral code by the school. There is a reason his two jobs have been BYU and UVA.

Reading comprehension is strong, Cavy.

Never said he would go there, just used his name as an example. Gah. Go back to elementary school, bro.