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Old 05-12-2024, 09:09 AM   #76
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Two of my favorite kinds of cards: Heritage auto and image variation.


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Ok I’ll admit I had never seen Gunnar’s real one heritage auto before this but that is a super sharp card. I may have to go hunting for one. That’s some serious bold auto as well. Nice ones Eye 👍
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Old 05-12-2024, 09:35 AM   #77
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I agree with regards to grading autos and I agree it’s not that bad which is why I was ok picking it up. Not like it’s smudged or anything.
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Old 05-12-2024, 10:09 AM   #78
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Ok I’ll admit I had never seen Gunnar’s real one heritage auto before this but that is a super sharp card. I may have to go hunting for one. That’s some serious bold auto as well. Nice ones Eye

I wish you luck. I’d say I was very fortunate to get my 9 for $225. A few days earlier, an 8 sold for $231, and two raws sold for $300 in the couple days after I got mine. And there’s another raw currently at $275 with 11 hours left.

But it might be worth the splurge. Heritage autos are usually really limited, and it is a sharp-looking card.


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Old 05-19-2024, 02:12 PM   #79
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Default Gunnar Henderson

A 22-year-old shortstop leading the league with 15 homers a little more than a quarter
of the way through the season… The dude is good.


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Old 05-19-2024, 02:20 PM   #80
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A 22-year-old shortstop leading the league with 15 homers a third of the way through the season… The dude is good.


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He and Adley are both doing well, this team is going places.
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Old 05-19-2024, 09:48 PM   #81
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A 22-year-old shortstop leading the league with 15 homers a little more than a quarter
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Just noticed today checking box scores that he has 15, thats pretty crazy.
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Old 05-20-2024, 08:34 AM   #82
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Just noticed today checking box scores that he has 15, thats pretty crazy.
On pace to break the O's franchise record, which is 53 by Chris Davis. I don't think he gets there, but 40+ HR season almost guaranteed barring injury.
This is your 2024 AL MVP as long as he stays healthy.
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Old 05-20-2024, 08:52 AM   #83
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On pace to break the O's franchise record, which is 53 by Chris Davis. I don't think he gets there, but 40+ HR season almost guaranteed barring injury.
This is your 2024 AL MVP as long as he stays healthy.
So easy to dismiss Juan Soto from the team the Orioles are currently looking up in the standings at? I think it's close right now and far from crowning either one MVP.

Games: Soto: 48, Henderson: 44
Plate Appearances: Soto: 219, Henderson: 198
At Bats: Soto: 183, Henderson: 174
Runs: Soto: 33, Henderson: 34
Hits: Soto: 57, Henderson: 47
Doubles: Soto: 9, Henderson: 4
Triples: Soto: 1, Henderson: 4
Homeruns: Soto: 11, Henderson: 15
RBIs: Soto: 37, Henderson: 31
Stolen Bases: Soto: 4, Henderson: 7
Walks: Soto: 32, Henderson: 17
Ks: Soto: 31, Henderson: 48
Batting Average: Soto: .311, Henderson: .270
OBP: Soto: .411, Henderson: .348
Slugging %: Soto: .552, Henderson: .598
OPS: Soto: .963, Henderson: .946
OPS+: Tied @ 172
Total Bases: Soto: 101, Henderson: 104
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Old 05-20-2024, 08:54 AM   #84
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So easy to dismiss Juan Soto from the team the Orioles are currently looking up in the standings at? I think it's close right now and far from crowning either one MVP.

Games: Soto: 48, Henderson: 44
Plate Appearances: Soto: 219, Henderson: 198
At Bats: Soto: 183, Henderson: 174
Runs: Soto: 33, Henderson: 34
Hits: Soto: 57, Henderson: 47
Doubles: Soto: 9, Henderson: 4
Triples: Soto: 1, Henderson: 4
Homeruns: Soto: 11, Henderson: 15
RBIs: Soto: 37, Henderson: 31
Stolen Bases: Soto: 4, Henderson: 7
Walks: Soto: 32, Henderson: 17
Ks: Soto: 31, Henderson: 48
Batting Average: Soto: .311, Henderson: .270
OBP: Soto: .411, Henderson: .348
Slugging %: Soto: .552, Henderson: .598
OPS: Soto: .963, Henderson: .946
OPS+: Tied @ 172
Total Bases: Soto: 101, Henderson: 104
Strange - Gunnar seems to have Mickey Mantle disease… doesn’t hit many doubles
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Old 05-20-2024, 08:55 AM   #85
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So easy to dismiss Juan Soto from the team the Orioles are currently looking up in the standings at? I think it's close right now and far from crowning either one MVP.

Games: Soto: 48, Henderson: 44
Plate Appearances: Soto: 219, Henderson: 198
At Bats: Soto: 183, Henderson: 174
Runs: Soto: 33, Henderson: 34
Hits: Soto: 57, Henderson: 47
Doubles: Soto: 9, Henderson: 4
Triples: Soto: 1, Henderson: 4
Homeruns: Soto: 11, Henderson: 15
RBIs: Soto: 37, Henderson: 31
Stolen Bases: Soto: 4, Henderson: 7
Walks: Soto: 32, Henderson: 17
Ks: Soto: 31, Henderson: 48
Batting Average: Soto: .311, Henderson: .270
OBP: Soto: .411, Henderson: .348
Slugging %: Soto: .552, Henderson: .598
OPS: Soto: .963, Henderson: .946
OPS+: Tied @ 172
Total Bases: Soto: 101, Henderson: 104
And Soto will get the "just because he's a Yankee" bump. I guess if Judge keeps being Judge, it could split the vote for those 2.
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Gunnar or Soto would both be very deserving of the award today. I favor Soto in the long run because of his typical pattern of a summer surge.
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Strange - Gunnar seems to have Mickey Mantle disease… doesn’t hit many doubles

He has four triples, which are basically doubles with a bonus base. So, if you look at it as 8 doubles/triples and 15 HR, the stat line would appear a little more normal.


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So easy to dismiss Juan Soto from the team the Orioles are currently looking up in the standings at? I think it's close right now and far from crowning either one MVP.

Games: Soto: 48, Henderson: 44
Plate Appearances: Soto: 219, Henderson: 198
At Bats: Soto: 183, Henderson: 174
Runs: Soto: 33, Henderson: 34
Hits: Soto: 57, Henderson: 47
Doubles: Soto: 9, Henderson: 4
Triples: Soto: 1, Henderson: 4
Homeruns: Soto: 11, Henderson: 15
RBIs: Soto: 37, Henderson: 31
Stolen Bases: Soto: 4, Henderson: 7
Walks: Soto: 32, Henderson: 17
Ks: Soto: 31, Henderson: 48
Batting Average: Soto: .311, Henderson: .270
OBP: Soto: .411, Henderson: .348
Slugging %: Soto: .552, Henderson: .598
OPS: Soto: .963, Henderson: .946
OPS+: Tied @ 172
Total Bases: Soto: 101, Henderson: 104

One is a shortstop, and the other is a right fielder. That’s a major factor.


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Gunnar or Soto would both be very deserving of the award today. I favor Soto in the long run because of his typical pattern of a summer surge.
If both were 21 today, but you still know what you know now, which one would you sign for 10 years, $450 Million / no trade clause?
For Me~ Soto, but I’d have to think about it …
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If both were 21 today, but you still know what you know now, which one would you sign for 10 years, $450 Million / no trade clause?
For Me~ Soto, but I’d have to think about it …
Soto. But only because he has the track record. Need to see more from Gunnar to prove he’s this level of elite. But I do think he is.
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Soto. But only because he has the track record. Need to see more from Gunnar to prove he’s this level of elite. But I do think he is.
O's may have been able to lock him up long term for relatively cheap (talking like a 8 year/$80M type deal) this time last year, but forget about it now. Would probably take 10/$300M to even start discussions with him and Boras.
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If both were 21 today, but you still know what you know now, which one would you sign for 10 years, $450 Million / no trade clause?
For Me~ Soto, but I’d have to think about it …
I'd like to imagine a world in which the Yankees chose Henderson over Volpe and him and Soto are competing for MVP both as Yankees.
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I'd like to imagine a world in which the Yankees chose Henderson over Volpe and him and Soto are competing for MVP both as Yankees.
Volpe's not having a bad year...but he's no GUNNAR.
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Volpe's not having a bad year...but he's no GUNNAR.
Yes indeed. I like Volpe, but I'd rather see him having a Gunnar year.
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Yes indeed. I like Volpe, but I'd rather see him having a Gunnar year.
I think every Player even wants to be having a Gunnar year… except maybe Ohtani
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Somebody add Kyle Tucker to the comparison. He typically sucks until June, so it will be interesting to see where he ends up...
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Somebody add Kyle Tucker to the comparison. He typically sucks until June, so it will be interesting to see where he ends up...
Kyle Tucker after seeing Gunnar take the HR lead:
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[QUOTE=BoSoxFan1999;19462099]O's may have been able to lock him up long term for relatively cheap (talking like a 8 year/$80M type deal) this time last year, but forget about it now. Would probably take 10/$300M to even start discussions with him and Boras.[/QUOTE

Can't tell if you are being serious ha-ha... Zero shot that was available, not to mention Gunnar being a Boras client as well.
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It’s time to starting about this guy. There are a few stale threads with Gunnar’s name in them, but one has “the goat” in the title and another ends with a question mark. So, I figured we should start fresh with the official Gunnar Henderson thread to talk about, and share cards of, Baltimore’s best young player. (That’s right, all you Adley and Jackson Holliday fans, I said it.)

I’m personally not a huge a collector, but I’ve been dabbling in Gunnar rookies. Here are some of my personal highlights:






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That Orange stars card is sweet. I have a bunch parallels of that card - Mother's Day, Independence Day, Japan colors... but not that one.

May I ask if it is serial numbered to #99 or that is just the stated print run?

I see only one on ebay that is in a SGC holder, for like $225... Do you think that is reasonable? I am not too versed on these set variations, only the pack pulled examples.
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That Orange stars card is sweet. I have a bunch parallels of that card - Mother's Day, Independence Day, Japan colors... but not that one.

May I ask if it is serial numbered to #99 or that is just the stated print run?

I see only one on ebay that is in a SGC holder, for like $225... Do you think that is reasonable? I am not too versed on these set variations, only the pack pulled examples.
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It's a stated print run.

What’s interesting about these cards is that people aren’t opening factory sets like they used to, so these parallel sets are mostly still sealed. If that trend holds, then very few of these orange stars will actually be in circulation and go into collections.

I personally think $225 should be viewed as cheap for that Gunnar. But people aren’t as hot on paper, these factory-set parallels were largely buoyed by the pandemic collecting boom, and there likely isn’t much awareness of how difficult these are to find.


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