2024 Topps Chrome Marvel (EU Exclusive)

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by Xiarmadillo

Almost all casino games give you significant better odds, you can blow them on singles afterwards (IF you win

Almost all? I'd love to hear which odds are worse. You could cut the players odds on every game in the casino by 50% and the odds are still better than buying into an average break.

If your odds on wax/breaks were the same as the casino there would currently be more interest in sports cards by about 1000 times the highest point in 2021.

Anyone that knows the casino and cards knows comparing the casino to opening wax or buying into breaks is ridiculous. Opening wax or buying into breaks would be the equivalent to playing blackjack and the only way the player can win is by getting 21. The player always has to try to hit to 21. Anything else is a loser. Can you win? Yes. Is it as dumb of a bet as any gambling on earth? Yes. Yet the morons just keep lining out.

[Xiarmadillo]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

Almost all? I'd love to hear which odds are worse. You could cut the players odds on every game in the casino by 50% and the odds are still better than buying into an average break.

If your odds on wax/breaks were the same as the casino there would currently be more interest in sports cards by about 1000 times the highest point in 2021.

Anyone that knows the casino and cards knows comparing the casino to opening wax or buying into breaks is ridiculous. Opening wax or buying into breaks would be the equivalent to playing blackjack and the only way the player can win is by getting 21. The player always has to try to hit to 21. Anything else is a loser. Can you win? Yes. Is it as dumb of a bet as any gambling on earth? Yes. Yet the morons just keep lining out.

well I say almost all because you can be Simple Jack at the Blackjack table, or a complete noob at the poker table =D

[Xiarmadillo]

So looking at the odds, this product is going to be very BLAND to bust

in a box you get:

6 Normal Refractor
4 Other Refractors (including insert kind)
4 Base Inserts

That is basically it outside of the bases....

Then it's potential to hit autographs and random super low serial hits (which is actually included in the '4 other refractor' pull rates)


Its all about hitting the lottery which will be few and far between



In comparison for Marvel Platinum Hobby/epack Box,

you get

10 Normal Rainbow (aka refractor)
10 Variant Cover
1 Variant Cover Refractor
~14-15!! Other Rainbows (including serial numbered)
3 Base Inserts

[Tim]

This is just like the Disney Topps Chrome thread lol. Full of sour grapes rationalization!

[kyle1707]

https://youtu.be/53rIaqYgMn0?si=Qm-zWxDlwOJJvGee

[LittleJimmies]

Originally Posted by kyle1707

https://youtu.be/53rIaqYgMn0?si=Qm-zWxDlwOJJvGee

Product looks incredibly boring.

[FishSkinned]

New guy to the hobby here - my first cards, just a Marvel fan who stumbled across the lottery, and was lucky enough to win...

What's the likelihood that Topps will release value boxes for this series?

[HiltonL]

Seems unlikely. As far as I know there have not been any blaster aka value boxes released by the international licensees

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by LittleJimmies

Product looks incredibly boring.

Agreed. Base looking about as bland as I expected. It’s basically platinum all over again with the chrome but at least platinum has original art.

I just don’t think the tons of color parallels as the focus of a set is needed in marvel cards. The set structures in say 90s or even prior-2016 were so much more enjoyable to collect than this type of set we’re seeing in platinum/marvel chrome. Maybe one parallel like a silver flasher back in 95 would be nice. However making the focus around numbered color parallels is the bread and butter of the sports/gambling/flipping crowd, so expected in this release. Who even cares what the card looks like I guess (reused generic looking art and not great design)- it’s just being used as a pawn in a set like this- instead many people buying this are checking off boxes- 1. Which character, 2. Which color and serial #. Barely matters what the card looks like.

[finfangfan]

It seems to be doing well. I’m wondering if/when Fanatics gets the US Marvel license how long it takes for them to put out a US version of Marvel Chrome and how it will differ from this set.

[dd316]

Originally Posted by Tim

This is just like the Disney Topps Chrome thread lol. Full of sour grapes rationalization!

The difference is the Marvel card market already has a huge built-in audience. Disney, not so much. There were a lot of sports guys pretending to be excited to pull a Buzz Lightyear autograph just to perpetuate the hype. Are there any collectors still out there looking to finish their Christopher Robin rainbow?

If you have any of this coming in I'm sure you'll make an absolute killing.

[finfangfan]

What percentage of this set do we think ends up in North America? Both this and the UK Disney Chrome set seem to be a boon to UK collectors happy to flip to US collectors. I would put the popularity of this release in the top3 Marvel sets of the last 18 months which is odd given the glut of Marvel product and the fact that this set is technically not even directly available in the US.

[PrinceVegeta]

Cards look bland and awful..1k a box already lol. Vile

[minko]

Me a true marvel card fan being absolutely put to sleep watching a box break on youtube. Talk about bland as #@#@#@#@ overpriced drek.

Marvel Flair, Fleer Ultra Wolverine and Platinum.... now theres some great art, great inserts and just a really good pack opening experiance.

[dd316]

Originally Posted by kyle1707

https://youtu.be/53rIaqYgMn0?si=Qm-zWxDlwOJJvGee

Is that a video... of a guy... watching a video?


But yeah, the cards are nothing special. They just need to be shiny to sell out.

[LittleJimmies]

A better break video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we62CmtcvIA

The video quality is better, the break itself stinks. Imagine paying $650 for that.

[glorbgorb]

Originally Posted by dd316

Is that a video... of a guy... watching a video?

Welcome to 2024. Reaction videos--yuck!

I know Fausto (well, virtually). He doesn't seem excited AT ALL watching the video, so that doesn't help things. I've seen some of the Chrome baseball sets in random FB groups, so the design is pretty standard fare. Seems like they would want something with a little more zing on their initial Marvel release, but let's face it, why bother? They know it'll sell well.

[kyle1707]

After opening Spider-Man metal avengers metal ultra etc

I’m really going to miss upper deck

Fanatics and topps are going to make marvel like Star Wars

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

Agreed. Base looking about as bland as I expected. It’s basically platinum all over again with the chrome but at least platinum has original art.

I just don’t think the tons of color parallels as the focus of a set is needed in marvel cards. The set structures in say 90s or even prior-2016 were so much more enjoyable to collect than this type of set we’re seeing in platinum/marvel chrome. Maybe one parallel like a silver flasher back in 95 would be nice. However making the focus around numbered color parallels is the bread and butter of the sports/gambling/flipping crowd, so expected in this release. Who even cares what the card looks like I guess (reused generic looking art and not great design)- it’s just being used as a pawn in a set like this- instead many people buying this are checking off boxes- 1. Which character, 2. Which color and serial #. Barely matters what the card looks like.

If Topps/Fanatics can sell boxes of Chrome without putting effort into them, it looks like that's what they're going to do -- see the unlicensed TC basketball abomination.

Even if they wanted to put effort into their card products and make them higher quality, I don't think they have the ability to do it -- they probably have young employees on their production staff without much knowledge of Marvel cards and characters. They're also probably stretched thin as it is, having to work on many releases each year.

It sucks for us collectors, but the box breakers and gamblers don't seem to care. It's just the way it is now.

[Xazark]

I think the set looks fine, not impressed with the price but that has been the case for all releases in the last couple of years.

[The Accountant]

Originally Posted by dd316

Is that a video... of a guy... watching a video?


But yeah, the cards are nothing special. They just need to be shiny to sell out.

Reminds me of this... cracks me up

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QmF8o...?feature=share

[finfangfan]

I can’t find the video online but there is an old SCTV skit where an investigative reporter from a D-List news station goes on the set of another news station and “reports/repeats the news” while ducked in front of the desk of the other newscasters reporting the nightly news. It’s funnier than I’m describing but that’s what this video of a video break reminded me of.

[glorbgorb]

Strictly speaking, as a US collector, this is the problem:


And this one:




It's just a refractor parallel. It's maybe a $2 or $3 card.

Yet I just bought a few cards from Australia and they were shipped insured and with tracking for about $11.

[DynaEtch]

You can also get cards shipped from China/Hong Kong for pretty cheap like $7 USD or so…called SPEEDPAK or something.

I think what’s probably going on is the UK seller might be using the EBay Internetional shipping program, which is available in the UK, and that shipping is jacked up, with a minimum amount no matter how small/light the package is. Just a guess.

I think to pick up those kind of cards it makes the most sense to wait it out (they should be readily available down the road), and eventually US sellers will be listing them and even on COMC, as they trickle around the world.

[glorbgorb]

Yeah, it's Speedpak. It comes to a US re-shipper, but it hasn't failed so far. I tend to get several of my lower-numbered pc cards from two or three sellers in APAC. A few there seem to open a ton of product.

As for the UK stuff, sure, I've had to come to terms that there will be holes in my collection for a bit. It's not the end of the world, and I really don't think we will see many more (or any more?) UK-only releases.